Kaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 11950 posts, RR: 37 Posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 6047 times:
This morning (31 August), a US 767 performed a safe diversion to SNN, while en route from PHL to Dublin. The aircraft, with 197 pax and 10 crew experienced a fire on board and the forward cabin filled with smoke; details are sketchy, but the problem is believed to have been an electrical fault. The plane landed safely at Shannon Airport, although it's understood that the aircraft descended to FL100 so that the crew could open cockpit windows (!?) and let the smoke blow out.
Thankfully, no serious injuries or illnesses, although no doubt the crew and pax got a nasty fright.
Jetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7335 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5924 times:
Good Idea to perform smoke and fume elimination procedures. This should be training for cabin crews as well.
Airlinelover From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 5580 posts, RR: 27 Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5634 times:
If you are low enough, the pressue is usually not great enough to prevent it..
Chris
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M717 From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 608 posts, RR: 5 Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5521 times:
"This may be a tech/ops question, but how exactly does one open a window on a 762 in flight?"
Descend to 10,000 feet, depressurize the aircraft, then unlock the window and crank it aft to the open position.
Note: Only the clearview (side) windows are able to open/close.
Haveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5519 times:
Whatever the problem, they must've fixed it and ferried the plane to DUB. Currently, US 307 is on its way to PHL about 4.5 hrs late. It departed at 5:58 Dublin time and will arrive in PHL at 8:07.
The plane is then scheduled to return to SNN as US 70, departing 1hr late at 9:30PM.
Godbless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2751 posts, RR: 18 Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5339 times:
...the aircraft descended to FL100 so that the crew could open cockpit windows (!?) and let the smoke blow out
Does that mean that they flew backwards? Because otherwise the air would blow into the plane rather then the smoke getting sucked out.
But how did the smoke get into the cabin with the door more then sealed?
JetMARC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 516 posts, RR: 2 Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5155 times:
I heard United Airlines trains their flight attendants to use belts and seatbelt extentions and strap them between door assist handles (as a barrier) and crack open doors below FL100 on the B747s on long over water flights should it be necessary to vent smoke and fumes during an inflight fire since landing on water is a last option...... is this true and/or possible??
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USAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 788 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4998 times:
Gotta love the way US Airways handles emergencys .... I'd fly with them on the 767 anytime!
Haveric From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1247 posts, RR: 5 Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4982 times:
this is the second or third (safe) emergency of this sort since the Ireland service began earlier this year...
On another PHL-DUB flight, an engine went out and the plane safely returned to Halifax.
B747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4708 times:
I heard United Airlines trains their flight attendants to use belts and seatbelt extentions and strap them between door assist handles (as a barrier) and crack open doors below FL100 on the B747s on long over water flights should it be necessary to vent smoke and fumes during an inflight fire since landing on water is a last option...... is this true and/or possible??
Again, I can't speak for UAL specifically, but that is a Boeing reccomended procedure that is noted in the 747 training manual so I have no doubt that they do indeed teach it.
Cx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6341 posts, RR: 56 Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4252 times:
On the 747 you open doors 2 and 4 on one side of the aircraft and apparently it works very efficiently in sucking out the air. The gap opened is no more than a couple of inches and is actually quite difficult to open more than that due to the air pressure.
N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 8 Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4217 times:
Strangely enough, the flight departed PHL about 3 hours late, due to maintenance issues.
Cmckeithen From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 617 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4133 times:
It sounds like the crew handled the situation very well. What was the flight number?
John From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1366 posts, RR: 6 Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4060 times:
Those 767s are getting TIRED! US Airways flys the shit out of 'em! The 332 fleet can't come soon enough! Until then, perhaps US should consider leasing more wide body equip in the interim, they could certainly use them, even on some domestic runs.
Nordo From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 29 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4040 times:
N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 8 Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4010 times:
Rhodylee From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 82 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3771 times:
I drove by Bradley Airport in CT on Saturday and there was a USAirways A330 and a 767 sitting on the ramp. I sat and watched for a few minutes, then they taxied to the runway and took off, within a couple minutes of each other.
N670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1595 posts, RR: 8 Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3703 times:
Saturday was a bad day for US Airways on the transatlantic front.
US 27 (CDG-PHL, A330) was diverted to BDL.
US 307 (DUB-PHL, 767) was diverted to BDL.
US 43 (AMS-PHL, 767) was diverted to RIC.
US 15 (MUC-PHL, 767) was cancelled.
US 49 (CDG-PHL, 767) was cancelled.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3613 times:
US is indeed considering acquiring 332s from Swiss in the interim. They line up perfectly as the US fleet is PW powered.
I wonder why US chose PW to power their 332s? They have a GE powered 767 fleet, RR powered 757s, and a CFM powered fleet of narrowbodies.
One would have thought they'd go with GE on this one.
26 Gigneil: Yeah I really meant to just say A330s... I was aware that the 333s were also PW powered. N
27 Kevin752: I am glad that nobldy was hurt and the 767-200 is still okay. I really would like to do a 767-200 flight before those planes are taken from Service.
28 Rhodylee: That sure was a bad day! There must have been a lot of unhappy passengers.
29 BAGSMASHER: The original US 767s are leftovers from the Piedmont days. That is probably the reason for the GE engines.
30 Haveric: Philly had some really bad t-storms that day.
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