"No one's death comes to pass without making some impression, and those close to the deceased inherit part of the liberated soul and become richer in their humanness." Hermann Broch
"To die is landing on some distant shore". John Dryden
"Death is a commingling of eternity with time; in the death of a good man, eternity is seen looking through time." Johann Wolfgang Von Goethe
"The call of death is a call of love. Death can be sweet if we answer it in the affirmative, if we accept it as one of the great eternal forms of life and transformation." Hermann Hesse
"There is no death. the stars go down to rise upon some other shore. And bright in Heaven's jeweled crown, they shine for ever more." John Luckey Mccreery
"As death, when we come to consider it closely, is the true goal of our existence, I have formed during the last few years such close relations with this best and truest friend of mankind, that his image is not only no longer terrifying to me, but is indeed very soothing and consoling! And I thank my God for graciously granting me the opportunity of learning that death is the key which unlocks the door to our true happiness." Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart
"Is death the last step? No, it is the final awakening." Sir Walter Scott
"Your lost friends are not dead, but gone before, advanced a stage or two upon that road which you must travel in the steps they trod." Aristophanes
"For death is no more than a turning of us over from time to eternity."
"Life is eternal and love is immortal; And death is only a horizon, And a horizon is nothing Save the limit of our sight". Rossiter W. Raymond
"A brief candle; both ends burning
An endless mile; a bus wheel turning
A friend to share the lonesome times
A handshake and a sip of wine
So say it loud and let it ring
We are all a part of everything
The future, present and the past
Fly on, proud bird
You're free at last."
IwantaBBJ From Switzerland, joined Jun 2002, 779 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6137 times:
There is no way how I can describe the feelings I had that morning - Turned on to CNN that morning, heard talk about an airliner that crashed, wondered what airline it was... Never thought it could happen to them!
CV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6115 times:
I would like to pay also my respects for the families of those who perished in that big tragedy. I personally felt very unconfortable because I flew with my family on the 29th. August 1998 from JFK to LGW following the same pattern that SR111 4 days latter. I and my family had a great flight and we were just comming up from that big adventure we had when we saw the news.
Mark_D. From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 1447 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6107 times:
Good post, Canadi>nBoy.
Memories of that night still quite vivid here. A very sad time indeed for so very many, both for the passengers' families as well as for the rescuers and townsfolk from all around Peggy's Cove, Halifax and vicinity.
Canadi>nBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 6051 times:
Swissair Flight 111 Transcript
The transcript of final moments of Swissair Flight 111 were released on September 8, 1998. It details the final conversations on September 3 involving the crew of ill-fated Swissair Flight 111, air traffic control centres in Moncton, N.B., and Halifax, as well as the crews of two British Airways Speedbird flights and a Virgin Airlines plane in the area at the time of the emergency situation (times in parentheses are p.m. ADT):
Swissair 111 (9:58:15.8): Moncton Centre, Swissair one-eleven heavy good, uh, evening level three-three-zero.
Moncton controller (9:58:20.4): Swissair one-eleven heavy, Moncton Centre, good evening. Reports of occasional light turbulence at all levels.
Swissair 111 (9:58:26.1): Moncton, Swissair. (Extensive communications between Moncton Centre and other aircraft. Unintelligible squelch covered by United Flight 920.)
Moncton controller (10:14:12.0): United nine-two-zero heavy, Moncton Centre. Good evening, occasional light turbulence reported at all levels. Other aircraft calling, say again.
Swissair 111 (10:14:18.0): Swissair one-eleven heavy is declaring Pan Pan Pan. We have, uh, smoke in the cockpit. Uh, request immediate return, uh, to a convenient place, I guess, uh, Boston.
Moncton controller (10:14:33.2): Swissair one-eleven, roger . . . turn right proceed . . . uh . . .you say to Boston you want to go.
Swissair 111 (10:14:33.2): I guess Boston . . . we need first the weather so, uh, we start a right turn here. Swissair one-one-one heavy.
Moncton controller (10:14:45.2): Swissair one-eleven, roger, and a descent to flight level three-one-zero. Is that OK?
Swissair 111 (10:14:50.3): Three-one-zero. (Unintelligible words obscured by a noice. Possibly the noise associated with donning oxygen masks.) Three-one-zero . . . one-one heavy.
Moncton controller (10:15:03.1): Swissair one-eleven, Centre. Swissair 111 (10:15:06.6): Swissair one-eleven heavy, go ahead.
Moncton controller (10:15:08.6): Uh, would you prefer to go into Halifax? Swissair 111 (10:15:11.6): Uh, standby. Virgin 12 (10:15:15.9): Moncton, Virgin twelve will be standing by.
Swissair 111 (10:15:38.4): Affirmative for Swissair one-eleven heavy. We prefer Halifax from our position.
Moncton controller (10:15:43.8): Swissair one-eleven, roger. Proceed direct to Halifax. Descend now to flight level two-niner-zero.
Swissair 111 (10:15:48.7): Level two-niner-zero to Halifax, Swissair one-eleven heavy.
BAW Speedbird 214 (10:15:58.3): And, uh, Swissair one-eleven heavy, from Speedbird two-one-four, I can give you the Halifax weather if you like.
Swissair 111 (10:16:04.1): Swissair one-eleven heavy, we have the, uh, the oxygen mask on. Go ahead with the weather.
BAW Speedbird 214 (10:16:10.4): OK, it's the three hundred zulu weather was one-zero-zero at niner knots, one-five miles, scattered at one-two-zero, broken at two-five-zero, plus seventeen, plus twelve, two-niner-eight-zero, over.
Swissair 111 (10:16:29.8): Roger, Swissair one-eleven heavy. We copy the, ah, altimeter is two-niner-eight-zero.
Moncton controller (10:16:38.6): Swissair one-eleven, you're cleared to ten thousand feet and the Hal . . . altimeter is two-nine-eight-zero.
Swissair 111 (10:16:41.7): Two-niner-eight zero, ten thousand feet, Swissair one-eleven heavy. Moncton controller (10:16:52.5): And Swissair one-eleven, uh, can you tell me what your fuel on board is and the number of passengers?
Swissair 111 (10:16:58.3): Uh, roger, standby for this.
BAW Speedbird 1506 (10:17:15.5): Speedbird one-five-zero six is at Tusky listening out.
Moncton controller (10:18:19.3): Swissair one-eleven, you can contact Moncton Centre now one-one-niner-point-two.
Swissair 111 (10:18:24.4): One-one-niner-point-two for the Swissair one-one-one heavy.
Moncton controller (10:18:31.0): Roger.
Swissair 111 (10:18:34.3): Moncton Centre, good evening. Swissair one-eleven heavy, flight level two-five-four descending flight level two-five-zero on course Halifax. We are flying at the time on track zero-five-zero.
Halifax controller (10:18:46.8): Swissair one-eleven, good evening. Descend to three thousand the altimeter is two-nine-seven-nine.
Swissair 111 (10:18:51.8): Ah, we would prefer at the time around, uh, eight thousand feet, two-nine-eight-zero, until the cabin is ready for the landing.
Halifax controller (10:19:00:9): Swissair one-eleven, uh, you can descend to three, level off at an intermediate altitude if you wish. Just advise.
Swissair 111 (10:19:07.2): Roger. At the time we descend to eight thousand feet. We are anytime clear to three thousand. I keep you advised.
Halifax controller (10:19:14.5): OK, can I vector you, uh, to set up for runway zero-six at Halifax?
Swissair 111 (10:19:19.4): Ah, say again latest wind, please.
Halifax controller (10:19:22.1): OK, active runway Halifax zero-six. Should I start you on a vector for six?
Swissair 111 (10:19:26.3): Yes, uh, vector for six will be fine. Swissair one-eleven heavy.
Swissair 111 (10:19:35.1): Left, ah, heading zero-three-zero for the Swissair one-eleven.
Halifax controller (10:19:39.5): OK, it's a back course approach for runway zero-six. The localizer frequency one-zero-niner-decimal-niner. You've got thirty miles to fly to the threshold.
Swissair 111 (10:19:53.3): Uh, we need more than thirty miles. Please, ah, say me again the frequency of the back beam.
Halifax controller (10:19:59.5): Swissair one-eleven, roger. You can turn left heading three-six-zero to lose some altitude, the frequency is one-zero-niner-decimal-niner for the localizer. It's a back course approach.
Swissair 111 (10:20:09.5): One-zero-niner-point-niner, roger. And we are turning left to heading, ah, north. Swissair one-eleven heavy.
Halifax controller (10:21:23.1): Swissair one-eleven, when you have time could I have the number of souls on board and your fuel onboard please for emergency services.
Swissair 111 (10:21:30.1): Roger. At the time, uh, fuel on board is, uh, two-three-zero tonnes. We must, uh, dump some fuel. May we do that in this area during descent? (Note: Two three zero tonnes represents the current gross weight of the aircraft, not the amount of fuel on board.)
Halifax controller (10:21:40.9): Uh, OK, I am going to take you . . . Are you able to take a turn back to the south or do you want to stay closer to the airport?
Swissair 111 (10:21:59.1): OK, we are able for a left or right turn towards the south to dump.
Halifax controller (10:22:04.2): Swissair one-eleven, uh roger, uh turn to the ah, left, heading of, ah, two-zero-zero degrees and advise time when you are ready to dump. It will be about ten miles before you are off the coast. You are still within about twenty-five miles of the airport.
Swissair 111 (10:22:20.3): Roger, we are turning left and, ah, in that case we're descending at the time only to ten thousand feet to dump the fuel. Halifax controller (10:22:29.6): OK, maintain one-zero-thousand. I'll advise you when you are over the water and it will be very shortly.
Swissair 111 (10:22:34.4): Roger.
Swissair 111 (10:22:36.2): (Du bisch i dr) emergency checklist (fur) air conditioning smoke? [in German](Translation: You are in the emergency checklist for air conditioning smoke?)
Halifax controller (10:22:42.9): Uh, Swissair one-eleven, say again please.
Swissair 111 (10:22:45.3): Ah, sorry, it was not for you. Swissair one-eleven was asking internally. It was my fault, sorry about.
Halifax controller (10:22:50.8): OK.
Halifax controller (10:23:33.1): Swissair one-eleven continue left heading one-eight-zero. You'll be off the coast in about, ah, fifteen miles.
Swissair 111 (10:23:39.2): Roger, heading left one-eight-zero. Swissair one-eleven and maintaining at ten thousand feet.
Halifax controller (10:23:46.3): Roger.
Halifax controller (10:23:55.7): You will, ah, be staying within about, ah, thirty-five, forty miles of the airport if you have to get to the airport in a hurry.
Swissair 111 (10:24.03.9): OK, that's fine for us. Please tell me when we can start, ah, to dump the fuel.
Halifax controller (10:24:08.8): OK.
Swissair 111 (10:24:28.1): (Background phone). Ah, Swissair one-eleven. At the time we must fly, ah, manually. Are we cleared to fly between, ah, ten thou . . . eleven thousand and niner thousand feet? (Sound of autopilot disconnect warbler).
Halifax controller (10:24:28.1): Swissair one-eleven, you can block between, ah, five thousand and twelve thousand if you wish.
Swissair 111 (10:24:45.1): Swissair one-eleven heavy is declaring emergency; (10:24:46.4 second voice overlap) Roger, we are between, uh, twelve and five thousand feet. We are declaring emergency now at, ah time, ah, zero-one-two-four. (Possible intercom sound toward end of transmission).
Halifax controller (10:24:56.0): Roger.
Swissair 111 (10:24:56.5): Eleven heavy, we starting dump now, we have to land immediate.
Halifax controller (10:25:00.7): Swissair one-eleven, just a couple of miles, I'll be right with you.
ScarletHarlot From Canada, joined Jul 2003, 4673 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5725 times:
There was an interesting episode of The Nature of Things on CBC tonight about the investigation into the crash. Fascinating. And horrifying. I think the part that bothers me the most is the thought of those last six minutes.
Buckfifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 18
Reply 9, posted (12 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 5707 times:
I remember that night when it happened, I was having instant noodles with barbecue pork, when I turned on the tele. I had CBC Newsworld on the tube, and at the beginning, the coverage was quite sporadic.
On another note, I was quite happy to find that the TSB did a quite thorough job with the investigation. At least the pilot's families can be happy now that they've been absolved of the blame in the accident.