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User currently offlineTriley1057 From United Kingdom, joined Dec 1999, 461 posts, RR: 1
Posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 14206 times:

Terminal E at IAH is now partly open. It is currently just being used for domestic flights but in 2005 it will become CO's international gateway once the immigration building is complete. The original plan was to build the terminal so CO could start a significant international expansion from IAH. I know times have changed completely since the original plans but does anyone know what new routes are possibly in the future for CO from IAH? I have heard a lot of rumors about CO / LIRF), Italy">FCO, MAD, and FRA and also an increase of existing services. Does anyone have any more information or thoughts regarding this matter or will we not see any expansion due to the current downturn?

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User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14083 times:

I heard that years back we had the rights to fly IAH-MAD, after we requested that CO receive permission rather than IB. I would definetly think MAD might be next in line, possibly to link up the Spanish with Latin America, it is a through flt right now. IAH-EWR-MAD as flt 62 and return as flt 63. Who knows maybe we'll add another CDG flt with the SKY TEAM alliance. I guess Italy could also be it. Altough I think FRA would be great. Although I would like to see us open DUS, STN back up. I do know they continue to look at new Mexico destinations, so most of the new International service will obviously be Mexico flts. Maybe SDQ?, STI opening back up, although "head honchos" have often said they will not fly back in there anytime in the near future. Maybe EZE if economy starts to shape back up. Liberia, Costa Rica?


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User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1392 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14067 times:

CO announced will start servicing QTO (Querétaro, Mexico) by October.

PZ



Next flight: IAH-DBX-MRU-ANT
User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 14041 times:

I heard that as well, but havent seen any press on it. We are still suppose to fly to MLM yet this year. Also POS out of EWR though.


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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13997 times:

There will be a new mid-european route starting late this year out of EWR. While it hasn't been added into scheduling, it has been added into the 777 aircraft distribution. I have no idea what the city will be, but it will be a 777 flight and it is approx mid euro flight hours.

Jeremy


User currently offlineContinentalEWR From United States of America, joined May 2000, 3762 posts, RR: 13
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 13969 times:

There will be no mid-European routing starting later this year. The year is 2/3 over and airlines don't start new flights to Europe in fall, when traffic is light and drops off considerably. New routes are launched in the Spring, as CO did with the EWR-GVA route (March 2003) or in the late spring or early summer. I don't see much in the way of new international routes any time soon on the long-haul front.

ContinentalEWR


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13892 times:

I'll tell ya man, BOM is on the horizon possibly. Inflight has been quoted as well as flying EWR-BOM as well as some MGMT personnel. This came out about a year and a half ago. Inflight has stated that it is coming in DEC.'
Who knows.



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User currently offlineSam the Lab From Ireland, joined Aug 2001, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13834 times:

I hope this does sound too far fetched. If the infamous Shannon stop over was removed in Ireland sometime soon now that the European Union are to take over the negotiations between the U.S. and Europe on bilaterals would there ever be a chance of a Continental service from EWR to Cork on the Irish south coast operated by either a 737-700 if wingleted or a 757-200? Would accept there is no likelihood of this happening in time for next summer but maybe year 2005? Many thanks!

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 13833 times:

Cork service from EWR would be great, most likely a 757.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 13761 times:

ContinentalEWR, I assure you it is in the flight flow charts, so it is coming whether it is standard to add them at this time of year or not. The only thing that is a variable in what I said in the original post is that I "believe" it to be mid Europe due to the block times, but it is possible it is not to there at all, but it is a 777 route.

User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2422 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13558 times:

Perhaps EWR-LHR (CO) since UA is giving up the route 24Oct03?


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User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13552 times:

CO can't fly into Heathrow.

User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8059 posts, RR: 54
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13507 times:

If there's a central European route being added, could it be Vienna?


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User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13477 times:

Maybe Barcelona???



User currently offlineTjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2422 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13465 times:

Or perhaps the once planned and then shelved Moscow service?


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User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24911 posts, RR: 56
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13448 times:

STN coming back? EDI or NCL being started sometime in the next few years?


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User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13427 times:

What about istanbul, budapest, Warsaw, or Prague? I suppose those routes do not generate enough people.


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User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8059 posts, RR: 54
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13401 times:

Actually Moscow would be a real good one - huge amount of traffic there, Moscow is one of the biggest cities in the world, and there's plenty of business between there and NYC since the Russians kicked the Italians arse in certain areas of business.


fly Saha Air 707s daily from Tehran's downtown Mehrabad to Mashhad, Kish Island and Ahwaz
User currently offlineJAL777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 13379 times:

@ Cedarjet

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User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1392 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 13372 times:

CALMSP:

I thought CO was already flying to MLM. I mean, I am not sure, but I heard it a long time ago, so I expected they would be flying by now... If they are not, then there is no reason to think QTO will happen soon.

PZ



Next flight: IAH-DBX-MRU-ANT
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 13173 times:

If it's new 777 flying then it's not going to be New Castle, Edinburgh, Stansted or Barcelona. Those will most likely be added at some point, but with 757s and 767s.

My guess would be..

The return of the second daily Tel Aviv flight or..

Moscow,

Or Dehli.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3924 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 13109 times:

Where does everyone keep getting hte idea that an INDIA flt would be Dehli, it has never been even rumored, BOM has been on the watch, and even inflight has been told of BOM.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 13078 times:

"it has never been even rumored"

Ha!

That's the biggest CO rumor since EWR-HKG, or CO taking over AS a couple years back.



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently onlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32609 posts, RR: 72
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 13039 times:

Continental ended Santiago/STI? When? It is still in the schedules. To you mean Santiago de Chile/SCL?

[Edited 2003-09-03 23:01:48]


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16819 posts, RR: 51
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 23 hours ago) and read 13012 times:

Santiago Chile or Dominican Republic, CO is still flying to Santiago Dominican Republic but they dropped the EWR-Santiago Chile flight 2 years ago.


Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
25 Post contains links JOSEMEX : Pedro, >>thought CO was already flying to MLM. I mean, I am not sure, but I heard it a long time ago, so I expected they would be flying by now... If
26 Dutchjet : My guess would be that the ""mystery" EWR-Europe 777 flight would be a service upgrade on an existing route, say EWR-FCO or EWR-FRA, and the aircraft
27 MAH4546 : Continetal has always wanted to serve Medellin, Colombia from Houston. Medellin is a huge oil capital. However, routes to Colombia are extremely diffi
28 Airzim : In addition to EWR-DEL, I had also heard EWR-IST was on drawing board.
29 Cba : EWR/IAH - DXB would also be a possibility.
30 STT757 : "However, routes to Colombia are extremely difficult to get and Continental has never been able to secure the route authority" CO briefly (early-Mid-1
31 Triley1057 : CO already flies to Caracas from IAH, I think from EWR too but I am not sure. I would really like to see some more cities in South America as well as
32 CALMSP : I'm rather surprised that we dont fly IAH-SDQ. Maybe that could be a route soon. The IAH-SJU flt always seem to be rather full. Not sure if they are g
33 Airzim : Judging from the talk out of 1600 Smith St. it seems that the company intends to focus on the top O&D markets from New York. Hence the HKG nonstop. My
34 Post contains images PROSA : Medellin is a huge oil capital. Among other things
35 PROSA : I had also heard EWR-IST was on drawing board. DL and TK already have nonstop JFK-IST service. I find it hard to imagine that there would be enough de
36 Cba : I'm surprised that CO doesnt serve SCL or EZE from IAH. Those would make two nice additions to CO's Latin American service.
37 STT757 : EWR is in the unique postion of being able to draw NYC O&D traffic as well as support it's own, with the population of North Jersey at around 5-7 Mill
38 Klwright69 : EZE is out of the question indefinitely I suspect. After years of haggling for EWR-EZE authority, CO finally got the authority from EWR. Then they nev
39 DeltaSFO : All the talk of IST, ATH, SVO, etc etc is well and good but unless Continental can secure some new route authorities to these cities, service to these
40 ContinentalEWR : DeltaSFO, Continental already has started building a strong partnership with alliance carriers, particularly KLM. CO offers onward connections from AM
41 MAH4546 : CO does very well out of Newark. The hub is hugely profitable and capitalizes on the world's largest O&D market. I thought Tokyo was the world's large
42 STT757 : "Delta's, and given the state of the transatlantic market, it seems to me that it would be wise for CO to follow DL's lead and embrace the idea of com
43 Flyguy1 : Actually DL has been adding more feeder flights to its JFK operations lately. Over the last few months services to CMH, IND, BNA, STL, and JAX have be
44 STT757 : "Actually DL has been adding more feeder flights to its JFK operations lately. Over the last few months services to CMH, IND, BNA, STL, and JAX have b
45 Flyguy1 : True, CO does have a nice operation at EWR. JFK does not require the domestic feed for its International flights, that EWR does. FYI, DL has 10x daily
46 N670UW : JFK does not require the domestic feed for its International flights, that EWR does Yes, but if DL had a good feed (like a true hub) at JFK, the inter
47 STT757 : "DL has 10x daily ATL-JFK flights, not to shabby" Yeah but how many of those are CRJs? CO flies 9 daily 737-500s from EWR-ATL. "JFK does not require t
48 Post contains images Flyguy1 : STT: Maybe the PA should close JFK, and force everyone to use EWR
49 PROSA : CO at EWR has both a high amount of connections as well as strong O&D traffic base to support their network, something DL and NWA lack and thus end up
50 STT757 : "STT: Maybe the PA should close JFK, and force everyone to use EWR " No , then where would Bruce from Bayside or Doris from Rego Park fly out of?
51 STT757 : "Post-9/11 fear of flying has hit New York's O&D market harder than anywhere else in the nation. I't might recover in time, but for the foreseeable fu
52 CALMSP : Not truly "international" but Director of CLE has stated that we are considering IAH-GUM. Awesome.
53 Post contains images Flyguy1 : Imagine Doris on a plane, coughing and weezing for hours at a time. Complaining about the Mets...
54 Post contains images STT757 : "Flyguy1" That's COLD!!! Very COLD!. But Im glad (and suprised) you knew what I was talking about What airport does Jerome from Manhattan fly out of,
55 Klwright69 : Here in DEN, DL used to have JFK to DEN nonstop, (just like the old Pan Am did!). TW also used to have the L10-11 for JFK-DEN nonstop in the 80's. As
56 Post contains images A340Spotter : The closest rumor that came true was EWR-DEL, which was even flight numbered at one point (82/83), but that was dropped for the time being about 2 mon
57 Flyguy1 : I listen to Mike and the Mad Dog sometimes, esp. during football season. Jerome is a nut, though from what I hear he has health issues to deal with. E
58 STT757 : I don't know but there are some great races/series going on right now, baseball has been great this Summer. St.Louis/Cubs are having awesome battles,
59 STT757 : "The DXB rumor is alive because there is an application in right now to service the United Arab Emirates" "spelling rumors that it's actually IAH-DXB
60 Triley1057 : IAH-GUM would be interesting to see. I have wondered before why there is no nonstop connecting GUM with any of the other hubs.
61 Artsyman : IAH-GUM would be interesting to see. I have wondered before why there is no nonstop connecting GUM with any of the other hubs. **************** There
62 MAH4546 : I would think any GUM-mainland service would go to LAX, no? That would make the most sense, even if LAX is not a CO hub.
63 B4real : New idea: IAH - FCO or MXP for a future SkyTeam membership with Ailitalia being the only Texas - Italy air links!
64 SailorOrion : A couple of years ago, CO stopped short of starting a service to MUC, I don't know whether from EWR or IAH. Any news on this? I could imagine that a M
65 EverettWA : Delta doesn't fly to IST daily, I think it is 5X. Maybe in the summer they do, though. Like it was mentioned, both DL and TK rely almost entirely on O
66 Turk223 : I read in the Barbados newspaper that there was a "surety" from CO to the Barbados government that service would start by year-end EWR-BGI and possibl
67 ConcordeBoy : IAH-GUM, hmm... would such a route truly be worth it, considering it would be primarily transfer on both ends? Up until now, it has not. The only airc
68 747firstclass : I looked it up and the distance from EWR-GUM is only about 500 or so more miles than GUM-IAH. In either event I do not think CO will service GUM nonst
69 Post contains links and images STT757 : Braniff used to fly nonstop from LAX-Guam with a 747SP, the flight continued on somewhere I forget. View Large View MediumPhoto © Frank C. Duarte
70 STT757 : Here's an idea.. IAH-Guam-Hong Kong 1 777 (three times a week), continues on from Hong Kong to EWR. CO has in the past utilized DC-10s from Guam to Ho
71 CALMSP : LAX could be a good spot. But CO does not like to start flying from non-hub cities to others. Even though GUM is a hub, I think we would fly IAH-GUM f
72 Thomasphoto60 : If I am not mistaken when the IAH/HNL service was started that flight continued onto GUM did it not? Indeed IAH I believe could certainly support a n/
73 CALMSP : Yes, Flt 1 goes from IAH-HNL, and continues on to GUM, there are large amounts of traffic b/t the US and GUM. I most certainly think a flt would be a
74 Thomasphoto60 : Thanks CALMSP. STT757, I come from a Braniff family and if I remember correctly that SP service continued to HKG, when BN was planning a huge expansio
75 Triley1057 : I think that a US-GUM flight would work. Most airlines with multiple hubs have flights connecting them. I know Guam doesn't have a huge O&D market but
76 Airnondo : correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't GUM have a large US military presence still. If so, IAH would be a good fit and also could attract feed from all
77 ConcordeBoy : Indeed IAH I believe could certainly support a n/s or at least a direct flight to HKG Doubt CO's current 772ERs could make it nonstop between IAH and
78 MasseyBrown : Is CAL's authority to MNL limited to Micronesia? I always thought a through widebody on, say, a LAX-GUM-MNL route would work well - it might also work
79 Airzim : Actually, years ago (can't remember the exact dates) CO did serve MNL nonstop from HNL with DC-10's.
80 STT757 : '90, '91', '92 Were the Manila flights, that was the glory days of CO's HNL operation. Nontop flights to Brisbane (4xs weekly), Cairns (3xs weekly), A
81 Stock1985 : My guess is that Munich (MUC) will be the next start up out of Newark. EWR is a perfect international gateway for this next step in service to Germany
82 AV8AJET : I believe that Delta serves Munich daily from Atlanta with a B767-300ER.
83 MAH4546 : Munich is frankly lacking service to the US right now, and I believe this will soon change. They definitley were for a while, especially in early 2002
84 Aloha73g : I think the main reason why CO has the IAH-HNL-GUM routing is because there is also a large amount of traffic between HNL and GUM. As previously menti
85 GKirk : EDI-EWR is expected to be announced today.
86 COspn : GUM-CEB will start in December 2x per week 737-800
87 Post contains images AY-MD11 : just fly the route EWR-ARN-HEL HEL-ARN-EWR and im happy.Maybe with 767.We have only Finnair to US now and its kinda booring...PanAm used to fly JFK-AR
88 STT757 : From a reliable source.. EWR-Edinburgh 10jun04, CO36 825p 800a EWR-EDI CO37 1000a 1230p EDI-EWR B757
89 Behramjee : CO has cancelled its plans to fly to DEL and BOM...so forget INDIA. It is currently codesharing with EMIRATES on the LGW-EWR/IAH, CDG-EWR/IAH routes.
90 DeltAirlines : CO is currently unable to fly into China. The current US-China bilateral only allows 4 airlines to fly between the US and China...these 4 airlines bei
91 ConcordeBoy : Berhamjee, you a lot of misinformation there.... CO already flies to NRT from all hubs except CLE CO still maintains interest in BOM, though not nonst
92 PVD757 : I suppose that if you looked at the New York airports as co-terminals, one might think that if there is a flight in JFK, there could be a flight in EW
93 MAH4546 : Not to mention Continental flies to a variety of Japanese cities, such as Sapparo and Sendai, from Guam.
94 Post contains images STT757 : It's official, starts on my 29th birthday "News Releases Continental Airlines Announces Daily Non-Stop Service Between New York And Edinburgh in 2004
95 Post contains links STT757 : "For Europe, Madrid & Rome are wise cities to look into as they have consistent demand year around" CO has been flying to Madrid for 13 years, and Rom
96 Airzim : In fact, CO is the largest US airline to Japan in terms of number or destinations served. Currently CO flies to: Fukuoka Nagoya Niigata Okayama Osaka/
97 Ant72LBA : Few points/queries; I'm fairly new to this so apologies if any of them seem daft!: 1. Why does GUM merit so much attention? Isn't it Pacific island wi
98 STT757 : Guam is part of the US, it has a decent population for it's size. It does indeed have a large US Military presence but it also has a decent manufactor
99 ConcordeBoy : What does O&D mean? Origin & Destination It refers to pax/cargo that's specifically traveling between two city points... excludes connecting traffic.
100 Ant72LBA : Thanks for the replies, probably stimulated more questions now though, especially about the new EWR-EDI route. With a route already to GLA, which is o
101 Arsenal@LHR : The next UK destination for CO could be LTN (i hope). CO was in talks with LTN officials earlier in the year, don't know what came out of them though.
102 ConcordeBoy : One would imagine they'd bring back STN before opening LTN, no? Particularly since local businesses are actively requesting it. That, and with four 75
103 CODC10 : Continental actually has a rather large fleet of BF-configured 757s, I think the intention of refitting 4 with the domestic product is to limit the BF
104 Klwright69 : What airport is LTN? Since CO loves the UK market, I agree that STN will make a return at some point. This is opposed to CO and the German market whic
105 Post contains links and images STT757 : London Luton airport, So the short list for CO in the UK is Stansted, Newcastle, Luton. I have a question for the UK folks, what about Cardiff? London
106 Post contains images COspn : GUM and SPN have the most flights per capita of any US airport, probally the world.. GUM is about 100,000 pop and SPN about 60,000 pop. How many airpo
107 By738 : Will give it a year or so and GLA will be downgraded to 757 again, then all services transferred to the " capital" ( with its lower population, but a
108 Arsenal@LHR : Logic would indicate that Stansted would receive CO service before LTN, and it probably will. Local media in Luton mentioned CO was in "intense" talks
109 GKirk : CO will not serve both STN and LTN, I would definitly think STN will be back. Wouldnt surprise me if a EWR-BFS-NCL-EWR service was looked at.
110 Klwright69 : I love all this speculation. A few years ago we were hearing a lot of the same talk and then CO surprised everyone with TLV and HKG-EWR, which absolut
111 Artsyman : GLA will be downgraded to a 757 whether EDI starts or not. It is a 757 for the whole year other than the busy summer period anyways. If you think that
112 CALMSP : I would just like to see us start something out of CLE. Maybe MEX, AMS, CDG would be great. Maybe with the joing of the SKY TEAM, CDG may not be far o
113 Copaair737 : i live in GUM. we get alot of service from Japan. there are approximately 1 million japanese tourists here a year, so the 747s are justified. Anderson
114 CALMSP : Copaair737: are there a lot of tourists to and from Australia? I would love to see us open up maybe SYD, MEL, PERTH
115 Copaair737 : theres a few. i know CO Micronesia operated GUM-BNE-SYD around ´95
116 COspn : Yes here in SPN Hopefully we can hold the NW 747 they are downgrading on GUM and going to a A320 or 757.. still waiting for CZ 757 CAN-TIQ service to
117 CALMSP : maybe the big news announcement will indicate a IAH-GUM, or LAX-GUM, or IAH-MAD, or EWR-ATH, who knows. I would like to see some more international se
118 Copaair737 : COSPN- CZ serves SPN?
119 COspn : CZ CAN-SPN soon to be TIQ is a casino charter flight postponed for SARS and will operate to TIQ one the airport is finished..Flights were MON-FRI Nite
120 VCE : @Cedarjet You wrote: Actually Moscow would be a real good one - huge amount of traffic there, Moscow is one of the biggest cities in the world, and th
121 VCE : It's a good topic anyway. The entrance of CO in SkyTeam will open new prospects on the routes US-Europe especially. I think actually that one of the d
122 STT757 : VCE , I think you misunderstood Cedarjet, he was making a joke about the Italian and Russia Mafia in NYC. Italians have been in American (NY) for a lo
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