AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1311 posts, RR: 1 Posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 3283 times:
I remember reading somewhere a year or so ago that Delta was to reconfigure it's B777-200ER's coach section from it's current 2 X 5 X 2 seating into a more comfortable 3 X 3 X 3 arrangement. Does anyone know if this will happen with future deliveries and will they change the current ones? Also when is Delta to receive anymore B777's? I think they are due to retire the last remaining MD-11's soon. I saw at least 3 in Atlanta on September 2nd.
B4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2611 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2945 times:
I have yet to fly in the 3x3x3 config on a 777, but have to wonder one point:
We went from one person with that is buried with two people between that person and the aisle to two like that (the window seats). Is that an improvement - especially for flight crews - that 3 person reach is rough - now twice as frequent.
Manairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 2935 times:
Why is 3-3-3 better than 2-5-2? You still have a high chance of that dreaded middle seat. 777s simply can't compete with the 2-4-2 seating of the A330 and A340 where everyone is guaranteed to be no more than one seat away from the aisle. I avoid the 777 at all costs.
Nwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 687 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2663 times:
I flew a 777 from MCO-ATL during the end of August and though that the 3x3x3 seating was a much better look than when it was 2x5x2. It also seemed more comfortable, though I dont think any pitch or seat width changed.
Airplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2330 times:
I think Delta does individual air control on the 777. I've flown both configurations on the airline (N867DA, N866DA) longhaul and have to say that I like the 2-5-2 better. If you can book a ticket long in advance, then it way beats 3-3-3 because you can have a window and still be just one seat from the aisle. The 3-3-3 is nice for middle passengers, but I don't like being in a window. I was in an aisle on the DL 777 with 3-3-3, but I flew BA to LGW from ATL on a 777 and was at the window. No doubt, I still enjoyed it and it was worth the window seat, but it was a hard escape from the window. If the flight had been hours longer like on a transpacific flight, I might have opted for an aisle because of the escape. I feel bad asking people to move if I need to get up because I try really hard to stay hydrated on flights so I drink a lot of water, but this has obvious consequences.
Senorbob From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2175 times:
Does anyone know why airlines no longer seem to install 3x4x2 configurations any more - I don't think any 777 operators have this. This has always seemed to me the best layout for everyone with 9 abreast seating, as 3x3x3 is terrible for couples, and in economy I would think there is a fair proportion on travellers in pairs. And of course in 2x5x2 there is the dreaded middle middle seat.
Varig (and I think Swissair and KLM did) have it on their MD-11s, and it looked good when I flew on one earlier this year. But Varig have chosen 3x3x3 on their 777s - any ideas why the change?
IIRC some of the early 747's initally came with 3x4x2 seating - now that must have felt nice and roomy!
TLHFLA From United States of America, joined May 2003, 589 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 2064 times:
Isn't it a bit tricky to reconfigure a seating arrangemnt like this? Besides just shifting the seats around, the overhead lights, oxygen masks, etc. have to be relocated too. Also, do the overhead bins need to be modified? Seems like a pain for planes that are not that old.
Midway2airtran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 1872 times:
They should add a little more pitch so those poor middle seat people can actually get out in the first place!! My last flight on DL B777 was a little disappointing due to the small pitch or at least what seemed to be a small pitch in the coach seating. It was bad enough that I would have measured it if I had the means to at the time.