AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1265 posts, RR: 1 Posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2679 times:
I remember reading somewhere a year or so ago that Delta was to reconfigure it's B777-200ER's coach section from it's current 2 X 5 X 2 seating into a more comfortable 3 X 3 X 3 arrangement. Does anyone know if this will happen with future deliveries and will they change the current ones? Also when is Delta to receive anymore B777's? I think they are due to retire the last remaining MD-11's soon. I saw at least 3 in Atlanta on September 2nd.
DeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 24 Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2646 times:
The existing 777s will be changed over.
We get 2 more 777s in 2005. Cash isn't exactly plentiful so Delta isn't really ordering many mainline jets these days.
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Boeing727 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 934 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2628 times:
N867DA was already in the 3*3*3 configuration by August 24th of this year.
DeltaSFO From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2488 posts, RR: 24 Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2581 times:
Actually N867DA was delivered in 3-3-3. It was simply fitted with the TIMCO crew rests.
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AV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1265 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 2570 times:
Is N867DA the aircraft they plan to replace the daily MD-11 ATL -NRT route with?
B4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2595 posts, RR: 6 Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2341 times:
I have yet to fly in the 3x3x3 config on a 777, but have to wonder one point:
We went from one person with that is buried with two people between that person and the aisle to two like that (the window seats). Is that an improvement - especially for flight crews - that 3 person reach is rough - now twice as frequent.
Manairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2331 times:
Why is 3-3-3 better than 2-5-2? You still have a high chance of that dreaded middle seat. 777s simply can't compete with the 2-4-2 seating of the A330 and A340 where everyone is guaranteed to be no more than one seat away from the aisle. I avoid the 777 at all costs.
Nwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 641 posts, RR: 15 Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 2059 times:
I flew a 777 from MCO-ATL during the end of August and though that the 3x3x3 seating was a much better look than when it was 2x5x2. It also seemed more comfortable, though I dont think any pitch or seat width changed.
Meister808 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 972 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1955 times:
Ok.. so the 777 can't compete with Airbus because they can't guarantee that everyone will be no more than one seat from an aisle??
How can you have a row of 3 seats and have someone more than 1 seat from the aisle?
I'm confused.
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TransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 993 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 1899 times:
B4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2595 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 1836 times:
I never liked 3 abreast because I frequently travel with a companion (wife), and having a 2x seat (window and aisle) has historically been ideal.
But the individual experience is important.
This would likely have been a lot more work than just moving the seats, as the lights, IFE, airfan, and other subtle items need consideration.
But wait, I cannot remember, does DL put air on the 777 cabin for individual control?
Airplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 3 Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 1726 times:
I think Delta does individual air control on the 777. I've flown both configurations on the airline (N867DA, N866DA) longhaul and have to say that I like the 2-5-2 better. If you can book a ticket long in advance, then it way beats 3-3-3 because you can have a window and still be just one seat from the aisle. The 3-3-3 is nice for middle passengers, but I don't like being in a window. I was in an aisle on the DL 777 with 3-3-3, but I flew BA to LGW from ATL on a 777 and was at the window. No doubt, I still enjoyed it and it was worth the window seat, but it was a hard escape from the window. If the flight had been hours longer like on a transpacific flight, I might have opted for an aisle because of the escape. I feel bad asking people to move if I need to get up because I try really hard to stay hydrated on flights so I drink a lot of water, but this has obvious consequences.
Senorbob From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 25 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1571 times:
Does anyone know why airlines no longer seem to install 3x4x2 configurations any more - I don't think any 777 operators have this. This has always seemed to me the best layout for everyone with 9 abreast seating, as 3x3x3 is terrible for couples, and in economy I would think there is a fair proportion on travellers in pairs. And of course in 2x5x2 there is the dreaded middle middle seat.
Varig (and I think Swissair and KLM did) have it on their MD-11s, and it looked good when I flew on one earlier this year. But Varig have chosen 3x3x3 on their 777s - any ideas why the change?
IIRC some of the early 747's initally came with 3x4x2 seating - now that must have felt nice and roomy!
FrequentFlyKid From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1197 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1546 times:
TLHFLA From United States of America, joined May 2003, 584 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 1460 times:
Isn't it a bit tricky to reconfigure a seating arrangemnt like this? Besides just shifting the seats around, the overhead lights, oxygen masks, etc. have to be relocated too. Also, do the overhead bins need to be modified? Seems like a pain for planes that are not that old.
Polnebmit From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 72 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 1349 times:
Delta-SFO. Those 2 new Triple 7's that Delta is getting, are they -200's or -300's?
Midway2airtran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2 Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 1268 times:
They should add a little more pitch so those poor middle seat people can actually get out in the first place!! My last flight on DL B777 was a little disappointing due to the small pitch or at least what seemed to be a small pitch in the coach seating. It was bad enough that I would have measured it if I had the means to at the time.
The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6079 posts, RR: 56 Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1151 times:
EgyptAir has the 3-4-2 configuration in Economy class on their 777s.
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