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Papeete Runway Long Enough?  
User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2239 posts, RR: 13
Posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2659 times:

Is the PPT runway long enough to have a 744 at MTOW take off from there (full payload, fully filled up = no load restric)?

The longest flights done with the 744 from there are to LAX, that is a "mere" 8 or 9 hours, but I was wondering whether PPT would support smthg like a 13 hour or more long flight (e.g., to Singapore)

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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

I would imagine so, I mean the A340 has a lower power, so it would have to have some extra runway room. I think the runway is like 10,000 feet. Which is enough for a 744. Air Tahiti Nui flies to KIX (or used to) I didn't know SIN was 13 hours from PPT.


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User currently offlineDIA From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3273 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2618 times:

Didn't Air France and Corsair run their 747 classics with an all coach layout between LAX and PPT. If so, I'd guess that it probably is even easier for a 744 to do the same.

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User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 56
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2603 times:

You are right DIA, a 747-200 to LAX.


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User currently offlineMozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2239 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2590 times:

PPT runway is 11360 ft. Just was not aware of how much rwy length a fully loaded 744 needs at this altitude (=sea level)

User currently offlineAA61hvy From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 13977 posts, RR: 56
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

11,000 feet is plenty especially at Sea Level. More than enough room. It doesn't get too hot there, only like mid 80's also.


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User currently offlineETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2089 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 2452 times:

Questionable in the rain- ask an Air France 744 pilot, a Pan Am 707 pilot, and a UTA DC-8 pilot!

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 2371 times:

the world's three longest nonstop flight segments (ATL-JNB, ATL-CPT, and EWR-HKG) all take off on runways less than 12,000ft.... so probably yes  Big grin

User currently offlineJacques60 From France, joined Jul 2003, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2283 times:

Sorry but I know that the 744 (F.GITA) was LANDING when it went and dip the nose wheel in the lagoon...
Apparently take off is no problem and I heard Air Tahiti Nui is trying to convince Airbus to provide an A340 capable of flying non stop PPT/CDG...


User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2240 times:

Qantas also ran 747 classics between SYD and PPT, and also PPT-LAX, with PPT being the fuel stop. This was in Jan. 1988 when I flew it, not sure when they stopped....probably when QF took delivery of their 744's.

Sure was humid there...and that was at 10:30pm!


User currently offlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2572 posts, RR: 53
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2136 times:

Questionable in the rain- ask an Air France 744 pilot, a Pan Am 707 pilot, and a UTA DC-8 pilot!

Add to that a Hawaiian DC-10 pilot, December 2000. Nobody hurt, but some bent metal at the end of the runway.

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User currently offlineAeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2089 times:

"""Questionable in the rain- ask an Air France 744 pilot, a Pan Am 707 pilot, and a UTA DC-8 pilot!"""

The Pan Am crashed after takeoff and had nothing to do with any problems with the runway. In fact I don't believe they ever found out what the cause was.


User currently offlineFlySwiss From Switzerland, joined Jul 2003, 445 posts, RR: 42
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2063 times:

I saw a AF B747 at PPT but I can't remember which version it was


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User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1988 times:

Air New Zealand used to fly 747-200's on it's AKL-PPT-LAX service, this was a scheduled route not just a fuel stop, it now operates with a 767-300!

RAR would have a shorter runway than PPT, NZ used to run 742's AKL-RAR-HNL-LAX aswell, also now a 763.


User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1875 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1905 times:

FlySwiss, if the nose was in water, then it was the "GITAnic", AF first 747-400 (F-GITA)
I have seen it on TV, and that was impressive
Teva



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