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User currently offlineAz747 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 20 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6994 times:



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User currently offlineAz747 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 20 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6936 times:




http://www.cnn.com/2003/LAW/09/09/attacks.lawsuits.ap/index.html


User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6841 times:

How disgusting. Such a terrible attack on our country shouldn't feed the rest of the world's stereotype that all we do is sue and try to blame other people for something no one could have forseen besides intelligence. AA, UA, Boeing, and the Port Authority suffered on that painful day. AA, UA and the Port Authority lost many employees on that tragic day as well as the plaintiffs, let's not forget. It is the job of the FAA to ensure the skies are safe, not AA, UA, Boeing and especially not the Port Authority.

If there's someone to sue here, it's the government agencies. They're ultimately responsible for protecting us from these things.

By the way, this is already being discussed.

[Edited 2003-09-09 22:33:06]

User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6788 times:

AMEN!!! Tekelberry... So lets see UA is already in bankruptcy, AA and Boeing can now join once they are stuck with paying millions in damages to the families, it just makes me sick.

User currently offlineRhino4ever From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 146 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6711 times:

LAWYERS!!! LAWYERS!!! LAWYERS!!!

User currently offlineGreg From United Kingdom, joined May 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

I'm quite sure you'd feel very different if a family member was lost.
With little or no security...no reinforced cockpit doors, this was an accident waiting to happen (if you can't get in the cockpit--you can't control the plane!).
Airlines responsible? Yes, there is contributory negligence. The cases will prove that.



User currently offlineB757300 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 4114 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6594 times:

LAWYERS!!! LAWYERS!!! LAWYERS!!!

You summoned our resident one into this thread.
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User currently offlineB777FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6557 times:

Actually Greg I lost my grandmother to Lung Cancer because she smoked not too long ago...Did I sue Philip Morris because of this ...NO

People get on a Plane everyday knowing that there could be that miniscule chance that the plane could be hijacked,crash or have some sort of incident..Very remote BUT there is that possibility.

What you do is except responsibility for your actions

You know coffee is hot....you don't sue if it spills
You know smoking gives you cancer..So you don't smoke or except the consequences.

Like many people have said out there...ITS ALL ABOUT MONEY and GREED!!!!
If you can get a buck.....SUE.


User currently offline777236ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6539 times:

no reinforced cockpit doors, this was an accident waiting to happen (if you can't get in the cockpit--you can't control the plane!).

If you can't get onto the plane with weapons, you can't get into the cockpit and you can't control the plane.

And how on earth is this Boeing's fault? That's a bit like saying Shell are responsible because they provided the jet fuel that burned.


User currently offlineFedExDC-10 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 196 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6493 times:

no reinforced cockpit doors, this was an accident waiting to happen (if you can't get in the cockpit--you can't control the plane!).


Actually, reinforced cockpit doors were outlawed. It was a federal regulation that all doors must be weak so that in case of emergency they could be easily opened (IE, a shoulder or kick) for evacuation. Flight Attendants were also required by federal regulations to carry a key to the cockpit, so there's your access point regardless.

FedExDC-10

[Edited 2003-09-10 00:06:01]

User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6488 times:

This is such BS. Man I hate lawyers. How much can I get... How much can I get....

User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 6467 times:

Greg:
While I did not lose family members, I did lost plenty of personal friends. 1 on Flight 11, and 6 on Flight 77...


User currently offlineTavong From Colombia, joined Jul 2001, 835 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6419 times:

It's stupid, how Boieng, AA, and UAL could prevent a thing that have never happened before, and has posteds before why Govenrment agencies where not blamed since now it's known that they knew that an attack like that could happen and did nothing? Now want to blame AA, UAL and Boeing cuase that???? It's stupid and has you posted before LAWYERS i really don't hate them but there are a few that only looks for damaged people to get money for themselves, What a shame.

P.D. Excuse me for my english.



Colombian coffee, the best...take a cup and you will see how delicious it is.
User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6365 times:

Exactly, the government knew and had the info all along, do you think they passed information on to the airlines and airport security services? If there is fault anywhere, it is with the government!

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6330 times:

Airlines responsible? Yes, there is contributory negligence. The cases will prove that.

How does suing them help anything?



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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6330 times:

I've said it before and I'll say it again...

The FAA is the total and only responsible entity for the attacks on 9/11. Their regulations are the ones that LEGALIZED box cutters and switchblade knives to be taken aboard US airlines.

Let me say that one more time. It was an FAA rule that box cutters and knives with 3 inch blades were permissable to be carried on board passenger aircraft.

And the morons in the FAA didn't think that box cutters and knives couldn't harm or kill people?????

Typical FAA. The blood law is the only thing they know how to live by. They never make a change to something that they know is dangerous until somebody dies. It's an absolute asinine policy. It makes me sick.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8021 posts, RR: 26
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6285 times:

Before you go blaming the lawyers everyone, try and remember not *all* attorneys are on the plaintiffs' side of things, mmmkay.

Secondly, what about the families? Many have already received compensation and now they expect more? Now they're going to hurt other American jobs and families should they prevail. Think about that.

Hey Boing, you're quite the tactmaster there. Hate to rain on your parade, but most people referred to as 'towelheads' are, in fact, Sikhs. Wrong part of the world buddy.



If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6275 times:

Hey Aaron747...

Hate to rain on your lack of sense of humor, go find one for crying out loud.


User currently offlineEALSYS1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 229 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6264 times:

How does suing them help anything?

I helps the attorney's wallet! With the absolute GLUT of attorneys, attorneys figure, "let's throw something up against the wall and see if it sticks". To take advantage of a worldwide tragedy for financial gain is absolutely reprehensible! So what happens...we get rich attorneys, we screw up the USA's transportation system and the USA's economy along with it. For what? Our beloved deceased are still just that. I pray for those lost on 9/11 and I pray for the souls of those soulless heartless sick minded attorneys. St. Peter ain't letting them through the pearly gates!!


User currently offlineDulles From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 80 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6263 times:

>You know coffee is hot....you don't sue if it spills

Wrong, there was such a lawsuit in this country. Back in the 1980s, I guess. A lady was driving with a cup of coffee held between her thighs. The coffee spilled. She did sue. I am not 100% sure whom, but, as far as I remember, it was the coffee place: for selling too hot coffee. And, again, if I am not mistaken, it was in Ohio, "The heart of everything".

Dulles


User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6247 times:

It was McDonalds and she won I think $3 million.

User currently offlineB777FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6218 times:

Dulles,

I was referring to the Macdonalds lawsuit when I made the statement...You spill it...then you spill it...oh well.....Its just common sense  Smile/happy/getting dizzy


User currently offlineB777FA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6192 times:

Isnt it funny how after the Macdonalds "Hot Coffee" lawsuit you suddenly began seeing "Caution-Hot " plastered on the outside of all the styrofoam cups at starbucks,Macdonalds and the like..Hell there even on our styros on the plane  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6171 times:

Yes... Flight attendant.... I'll have a cup of ice cold coffee please. One that's been out for a while, I don't like it fresh....

 Smile/happy/getting dizzy



User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 6133 times:

Dulles: You mean the "Heart of it all?"
Besides it's "Birthplace of Aviation" now anyway.  Big thumbs up

PS- The coffee lady won.



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25 NoUFO : You can surely get in the cockpit protected by reinforced cockpit doors: "If you won't let me in, I'm going to kill the people here one by one ..." Le
26 BoingGoingGone : Wasn't there a recent story on how 20-30% of the people claimed the money from the special fund set up by the Government in the amount of about $2 mil
27 Timz : Getting off on the inevitable tangent: Lawyers are annoying, but obviously they're not the source of the problem. They don't award awards.
28 United_Fan : >>WHAT A CROCK OF $HIT!
29 Post contains images RoyalDutch : Wow, I can't believe some of the comments here. Obviously, AA, UA, Boeing, and the Port Authority are not to blame...that's absolutely ludicrous. But
30 Tekelberry : McDonalds was asking for a lawsuit. Coffee is supposed to be served at a much lower temperature than what they heated theirs up to. They only heated i
31 VS340 : McDonalds was asking for a lawsuit. Coffee is supposed to be served at a much lower temperature than what they heated theirs up to. They only heated i
32 N766UA : McDonalds was asking for a lawsuit. Coffee is supposed to be served at a much lower temperature than what they heated theirs up to. They only heated i
33 777236ER : Where did you get that from? McDonalds can serve their coffee however they like! The coffee was far hotter than was necessary and the lid used didn't
34 BoingGoingGone : Gimmie a break. It's freakin' coffee... It's supposed to be hot. This sisn't France... Or wherever the cold coffee idea came from. This is America. Se
35 777236ER : Gimmie a break. It's freakin' coffee... It's supposed to be hot. But not so hot that if you spill it it scars you. 'Gimme a break', when you drink it
36 B777FA : I think he was kidding guys..If he wasn't...then that's really sad!!!!!!!!!!!
37 B777FA : O.K. He wasn't Kidding..................Yep your sad!
38 Post contains images BoingGoingGone : No... I was serious!!!!
39 B777FA : Thats when you use your common sense and let it cool down!!! DUH!!!!!
40 Post contains images BoingGoingGone : 1. Cup is very very warm. 2. Steam is rising from the top of the lid. 3. It's coffee.... 4.... Where is your common sense? Okay, found it... Good.
41 777236ER : Thats when you use your common sense and let it cool down!!! DUH!!!!! What? Why should McDonald's be allowed to sell something that'll burn you? Put o
42 B777FA : YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!.......Its Hot..when you go to sip the coffee you know its going to be hot and if it feels hot let it cool down....NOW i
43 777236ER : Its Hot..when you go to sip the coffee you know its going to be hot and if it feels hot let it cool down....NOW if you spill it on yourself then you'r
44 B777FA : You obviously have no common sense...none whatsoever
45 Post contains images BoingGoingGone : Hey, if you can sense the heat coming from a lid as it approaches your mouth, then you probably shouldn't be ordering coffee in the first place. Order
46 777236ER : You obviously have no common sense...none whatsoever Now now, personal insults. You honestly can't see how you could burn yourself on coffee? If the c
47 Post contains images BoingGoingGone : Okay 777... I gotta ask... Was it you that sued???
48 777236ER : Nope. If I got $3 million worth of injuries from a cup of coffee in faulty packaging and that was too hot to drink, I probably would though.
49 N766UA : I'm gunna buy a hammer, hit myself with it, and sue Craftsman because they made it too blunt than they should make hammers. Also I'll say the handle d
50 B777FA : You honestly can't see how you could burn yourself on coffee YOU JUST SAID IT....yes...and if you know its hot and you burn yourself...who is to blame
51 777236ER : I'm gunna buy a hammer, hit myself with it, and sue Craftsman because they made it too blunt than they should make hammers. They should make hot coffe
52 Iflewrepublic : Coffee or not coffee, it is my personal opinion that the safety and security measurements that have been implemented since September 11th SHOULD have
53 777236ER : Coffee or not coffee, it is my personal opinion that the safety and security measurements that have been implemented since September 11th SHOULD have
54 N766UA : They should make hot coffee...but not too hot that it burns your mouth. Agreed? I understand where you're coming from but I disagree. I usually wait a
55 B777FA : i dont think it was $3 million of injuries...more like a new kitchen...house extension..computer...new car....villa in Bardados etc.
56 777236ER : I usually wait a few minutes to get on the road etc. before I drink anything, so by then the coffee is nice and cooled down. It's gotta stay hot for
57 777236ER : i dont think it was $3 million of injuries...more like a new kitchen...house extension..computer...new car....villa in Bardados etc. If she won there
58 B777FA : $3 Million?????? She must have showered in it!
59 N766UA : Nope. You're hammering, the head's lose, it falls on your head. What do you do? Just answer that question. Put the brain damage down to stupidity? But
60 777236ER : But to fit the context of the story I'd have to injure myself with it, just as the lady dumped coffee on herself. The coffee didn't leap off the windo
61 Post contains images 777236ER : $3 Million?????? She must have showered in it! Or spent it on legal and medical fees, and made up for the money she lost not working
62 N766UA : If it hit me hard enough? Well, I've got insurance for the medical bill so I'd have no need to sue. No I can't say I'd pin the blame on stupidity, but
63 777236ER : If it hit me hard enough? Well, I've got insurance for the medical bill so I'd have no need to sue. But what about if you lost your job? What about if
64 Deltabobo : Left Wing Liberal Agenda if you ask me
65 Post contains images EA CO AS : Everyone, PLEASE stop arguing with 777236ER. He's a threat to dead horses everywhere, and positively WILL NOT STOP, EVER. He argues for the sake of ar
66 N766UA : And on top of that, I've burned myself on coffee before. It's not 300 degrees. It'll hurt like hell but it will never cause any real significant medic
67 N766UA : What's the difference between a lose hammer head and a coffee cup with a lid on that doesn't fit? I can tell the lid is loose and can take precaution.
68 777236ER : And on top of that, I've burned myself on coffee before. It's not 300 degrees. It'll hurt like hell but it will never cause any real significant medic
69 N766UA : But if it was too hot and it DID burn your badly, what then?! That's too hypothetical to have any real bearing in an argument, IMO.
70 777236ER : I can tell the lid is loose and can take precaution. If you're in a rush? Couldn't you have noticed if the hammer head was loose too? Can't you just a
71 777236ER : That's too hypothetical to have any real bearing in an argument, IMO. But it HAPPENED to the women who sued! It's not hypothetical at all!
72 N766UA : Can't you just accept there IS a situation where McDonald's is at fault? Yes. They owe her a free meal and an apology. Not 3 million.
73 777236ER : Yes. They owe her a free meal and an apology. Not 3 million. So you admit they are responsible in some way. If, due to their mistake, she burnt hersel
74 N766UA : The server is at fault as is the lady who spilled it. One for overlooking the lid, the other for overlooking....well, the lid... and the fact that it'
75 777236ER : The server is at fault as is the lady who spilled it In which case, argument over. The lawsuit wasn't frivolous. Thank you and goodnight, I retire to
76 N766UA : Well, I'll agree with the over part. But there is still a difference between being at fault accidently and being at faul to the point where a lawsuit
77 MaverickM11 : Don't forget that Fedex, Delta, and Boeing were all responsible for Swissair #111. Lawyers don't care who is at fault or what the facts are; they look
78 B757300 : This is why we must have Tort Reform for the entire U.S. and limit not only the amount idiot juries can award and how much of the winnings can go to t
79 Alpha 1 : Greg, I knew you'd be here to defend the indefensible. The government is responsible, not Boeing, not AA ,not UA. So stop acting like the ambulance ch
80 Post contains images Dulles : Well, I am really amazed by the resonance that the damn coffee cup between the lady's thighs has provoked. I have always been wondering what kind of p
81 Kevin752 : All this is a bunch of bull . None of the airlines or boeing were responsible the govermant agencies that we pay taxes to were sleeping on the job. t
82 Stefandotde : Responsible for what? That terrorists used planes as weapons? No. But why didn't they evacuate the towers earlier? Anyway - american law is totally st
83 Lijnden : I do not think Boeing, AA, UAL or the government is responsible. It was an act of terror, done by maniacs. Damages to materials were for the most cove
84 N79969 : The title of this thread is incorrect and needlessly provocative. That is not what the judge said. Greg actually makes a valid point. I think the fami
85 BoingGoingGone : 777236.... If she was stopping at McDonalds for Coffee, even if she was out of work for a year, she never lost $3 million in income. Rich people don't
86 Greg : After reading the comments from the judge...I'm actually sure that some of cases will make it to trial. This simple fact that some families want answe
87 Aaron747 : Certainly, many things are starting to come out now that likely would not have seen a spotlight for some time if not for 9/11. United has come under f
88 Post contains images Bmacleod : If you are going to name UAL, AA and Boeing you might as well add the Bush Administration for not preventing the 9/11 attacks. I feel only the governm
89 UAL777 : Lets nip this in the bud........I say we sue the mothers of the terrrorists for letting them be born!
90 JohnJ : "If you are going to name UAL, AA and Boeing you might as well add the Bush Administration for not preventing the 9/11 attacks. I feel only the govern
91 Post contains images Solnabo : Weré f****d when the fat lady drinks her hot cooffe........puhleeze! Michael/SE
92 Filejw : I think what the judge means is the airlines should have known what was possible.Begining about 1994 at my airlines recurrent training security module
93 B777FA : I think what the judge means is the airlines should have known what was possible ---SO Does that mean now that Amtrak has to strengthen all their door
94 Cancidas : i fail to see how this is boeing's fault, or AA's or UAL's.
95 N79969 : Here is the legal issue: Could the airline foresee a hijacking as a possible risk? If so, could they foresee everyone on-board being hurt or killed? I
96 Ckfred : What surprises me is that the attorneys aren't suing the security firms that handled the checkpoints at Logan Airport in Boston and the Portland, Main
97 MD-90 : Hello, security firms typically don't have quite as much money as the number one and number two largest airlines in the entire world. I have an aunt w
98 Phfev03 : As human beings we all have choices to make. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY can be held responsible for the choices that we make except for the being that
99 Shenzhen : 1. The person that sued McDonalds never received 3 million dollars, MCD apealled the verdict, and I think it was settled out of court for something re
100 Cloudy : Perhaps we need to talk about possible solutions and not just the problem.... The sad thing is not when people sue when there are no grounds to. That
101 Dionysus : Mr. Bin Laden and US foreign policies are responsible for 9/11 not Boeing or AA or UAL.
102 Mattnrsa : It looks like UA and AA might not have much to worry about. ATWonline quotes an analyst who states they face "little if any [financial] risk" from Tue
103 Businessflyer : Well... everybody is suing everybody else and it's clear who some people think is to blame...! From today's Singapore Business Times... "... Insurers
104 Bmistaff : I think McDonalds should not have been sued. I used to work there and know for a fact that it is kept at an even temperature of around 80 degrees C. N
105 Trintocan : Oh, there we go again, the blame game merry-go-round. Instead of reflecting on the massive tragedy that was 11 September 2001, where so many thousands
106 N79969 : 1. The people suing here are nothing like the guy who got struck by lightning at King's Island. Nor are they like the woman who found her coffee to be
107 HlywdCatft : Why is Boeing responsible? Because they sold UA and AA 767-200s nearly 20 years ago?
108 Mandala499 : Yes... the throw everything they can in claims for the lawsuit, then they'll see which one the defendants screw up on and then chase them for it! Cour
109 MaverickM11 : "From today's Singapore Business Times... "... Insurers sue Al-Qaeda, govts for US$300b CHUBB Corp and Zurich Financial Services are among the insurer
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