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ATA Announces Mrtc!  
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2330 times:

One would imagine that AA might reconsider switching its 757s to denser configuration now:

INDIANAPOLIS--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 12, 2003--ATA (ATA Airlines, Inc.)(Nasdaq:ATAH - News) passengers will soon get more legroom. ATA will remove 16 seats from each of its 15 Boeing 757-200 aircraft, reducing the number of seats from 216 to 200 seats. This change will increase the seat pitch (the distance between seats in an aircraft's passenger cabin) from 30" to 32" and 33", giving customers more legroom and a more comfortable flying experience.

The transformation will be complete by the first week in October, and will make the seat pitch more consistent with that of the Boeing 737-800 and 757-300 aircraft ATA flies.

"Our fleet of Boeing 757-200 aircraft is used primarily for longer-haul flights," said John Happ, ATA Senior Vice President of Marketing and Sales. "We're increasing our seat pitch to provide our customers with a more pleasant travel experience."

During the past year, ATA has introduced other customer amenities, including ATA's popular Web Check-In, which allows E-ticketed passengers to print their boarding pass and receipt from their personal computers via ATA.Com. ATA has also continued to add self-service e-ticket kiosks, full-service curbside check-in and gate automation at the airports it serves, allowing customers to save time at the airport and simply board their flight.

"As one of the premier low-cost carriers in the industry, we strive to stay ahead of the trend by delivering low fares without sacrificing top-notch service," said Happ. "We're currently conducting extensive research on customer preferences to extend this commitment further, by discovering what will be most important to our customers for the long term."

ATA's fleet of Boeing 757-200 aircraft are powered by Rolls-Royce engines and feature advanced aerodynamics, long-range capabilities and a quiet ride. The aircraft is divided into three cabin sections and is equipped with four lavatories. It also features in-flight entertainment, large overhead bins and full beverage service. In other news, ATA is test marketing offering meals for sale on the long-haul flights this aircraft serves, as well as movies for long-haul flights within the Continental U.S.





Source: http://biz.yahoo.com/bw/030912/125309_1.html



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User currently offlineLN-MOW From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2295 times:

Besides it saves us a flight attendant .... the cost of the 5th f/a is higher than the additional revenue we may pick up with those 16 seats.




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User currently offlineFlyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2166 times:

sort of interesting i thought now that aa is discontinuing mrtc on most a/c, that the airline of chicago's other airport adds this, a smack in the face to aa

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2123 times:

aa is discontinuing mrtc on most a/c

The 752 and AB6 certainly do not constitute "most aircraft" in AA's fleet!


User currently offlineKUGN From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 615 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2119 times:

Wow, so quickly?

If they can redo the seat configuration before October, what happens to my 29F,E,D seats we purchased? Do I need to call their customer service?


User currently offlineN951U From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 2111 times:

AA replacing some seats still won't make coach seat pitch as horrendous as ATA had it in their B757-200.

User currently offlineFlyboy36y From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3039 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2035 times:

This is not MRTC on the part of ATA... its MRT757..... Their other planed dont get MRTC

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2006 times:

Because their other aircraft were already delivered in semi-humane configurations!

User currently offlineWmupilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1473 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1946 times:

ATA has been removing seats on the 752 for a few months now...this isn't new but just a new announcement


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User currently offlineJjbiv From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 1226 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1883 times:

Really? I didn't know that there are planes running around with the new config yet. At least I haven't seen any looking at random seat maps and g displays.

joe


User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 1784 times:

Because their other aircraft were already delivered in semi-humane configurations!

Their website says that the 737's are 31-32" pitch. That's still "cozy".


User currently offlineKevin752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 726 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1732 times:

I think that ATA stole this idea from AA. However when I went from LAX-OGG on their LT1011's the leg room was pretty decent includuding that it was a long haul low cost carrier. I that ATA is cool. I went on an AA 757-200 and I had a placebo effect. I belived that the aircraft had more room but it did not but the 737-800 had MRTC.


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User currently offlineAcvitale From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 922 posts, RR: 10
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1666 times:

Wow ATA F/As must bank...

If saving a 5th F/A is worth 16 seats.

What if we took out all but, 1 seat and saved 3 more F/A jobs that would really make money..

Lemme think an average yield of $55.00 per seat on ATA average stage length (Approx) means the 5th F/A is worth approx $880.00 a flight!!!

That must be a great job. Are they hiring....


Seriously... I think the move is meant to try to show a better load factor then would result as the airline struggles to look good to the street and refinance its debts. Nothing more then smoke and mirrors...

Maybe they shouldn't have grown so aggressively and now they are scrambling to cover....


User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2004 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 week 1 day ago) and read 1636 times:

I heard the main reason why we are taking those seats out are because of weight and balance issues and consistancy accross the fleet....good for us to be able to promote it. I was just fine in the 737 - 800 with the pitch...then again I'm 5'6".

Ry


User currently offlineTZSFO From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 202 posts, RR: 6
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 1539 times:

only 4 aircraft are done so far -513AT, 524AT, 525AT, and 526AT.

The rest of the fleet is scheduled to be completed the week of October 9-18 (AC 518AT)


TZ



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User currently offlineWNfan From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 1480 times:

Is this possibly a reaction to the MDW runway overrun that occurred this week?

User currently offlineTZSFO From United States of America, joined Dec 2002, 202 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 1467 times:

This was planned well in advance of the MDW overrun.

It also only involves the 757-200 aircraft....not the 300 series that overran.

TZ



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