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Major CO Announcement Expected Monday  
User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6905 times:

As per the employee's daily memo and weekly "voice mail" from Gordon, Mr. Bethune is expected to make a major announcement (i.e. same magnitude as introduction of BusinessFirst) on Monday during a luncheon with a Washington, DC-area airline industry group.

Timing is right for Boeing to announce a launch customer for the 7E7, and we have deferred all deliveries of that size aircraft indefinitely. Perhaps a conversion of existing orders to 7E7? Gordon and several other key executives have been meeting with Boeing to discuss aircraft orders, but no other specifics have been reached. Things could get interesting, stay tuned...

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User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 55
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6825 times:

Is it not too early for confirmed orders for the aircraft? Are the aircraft specifics already known? Still seems to me that the aircraft is in the research mode, and not much is known about it yet.




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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6794 times:

I can guarantee you that it has nothing to do with aircraft orders. Other than that, I'll keep quiet.  Big grin

User currently offline777gk From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1641 posts, RR: 18
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6768 times:

Alpha 1,

Interesting, I'll be back at work tomorrow after a short vacation, hopefully I'll get a better idea then. Until that time, I'd like to see some speculation, we are a pretty conservative carrier, it's not every day we announce something big!



User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6714 times:

Hmm, he said product enhancement... on par with the introduction of Biz1st... so what could it be?!

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8232 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6713 times:

Wouldn't surprise me at all if he said Cleveland was gettin' dropped.


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6712 times:

There was a meeting today with Continental executives (including Gordon) and Boeing executives......also on the agenda, from wire service reports, was the 11 B757-300s, I posted that a couple of minutes ago.

Could it be possible that CO will announce that it is taking the aircraft and the announcement will be about new routes, increased services, or the creation of an additional focus city? One possibility.

The other thing that comes to mind is the AF/KLM deal and how it affects Continental......Continental joining SkyTeam would be a major step, and could result in increased transatlantic services and/or transpacific services. (more service to paris, rome, milan? new routes to Seoul?)

Just a few guesses?



User currently offlineTimf From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 969 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6709 times:
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I think it'll be the Skyteam announcement. In another thread, it has been said that Air France will be making an annoucement on September 15 (Monday) about new Skyteam members. So, we will likely learn on Monday that Continental, KLM, and Northwest are officially joining Skyteam.

User currently offlineDeltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1647 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6545 times:

I agree with TIMF and N766UA, either the announcement of skyteam, or the dropping of Cleveland. The industry is still too unstable to announce a new a/c type. Just 2 years ago CO was making a big deal that it had to default on a/c lease payments, they since deferred a/c deliveries, and like everyone else, haven't made a profit! Not sure if announcing a new a/c type and order is really a priority for them.

User currently offlineNcflyer From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 482 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks ago) and read 6351 times:

Dropping of Cleveland-- that makes no sense, none at all-- if he said it was a product enhancement-- well how is dropping a hub a product enhancement? Or let's say it's a product enhancement related to a move-- tell me what puny city could they move to that would be a product enhancement and described as such.

User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

 Laugh out loud

I know, and you guys don't. Nah nah nah nah nah!!!  Big grin


User currently offlineGlobaldude From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 237 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

My bet goes to expansion of SkyTeam and its new members

User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 6034 times:

Yeah I know too Alpha 1....believe me guys it's nothing to get excited over. We had a meeting on it today....just more work for us!!

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8232 posts, RR: 23
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5984 times:

Hey Alpha1, out of curiosity, do you know a Bev Smith who used to be a CSA up there?


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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5896 times:

N766UA, there's been so many people that have worked up here, and the truth is I either don't know, or just can't remember all of them. That name doesn't ring a bell offhand, but maybe it'll shake loose in my memory.  Smile

Flyboyaz, I hear you about more work-but not a whole lot. I understand where it's coming from.

[Edited 2003-09-13 05:37:12]

User currently offlineUadc8contrail From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1782 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5854 times:

NEW SERVICE TO EDI AND CO PUSHING BACK THE A/C ORDERS TILL 2008......UNLESS THEY GET DEN BACK WHICH WILL NEVER HAPPEN THEY WILL NOT DROP CLE.....


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User currently offlineCalpilot From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 998 posts, RR: 14
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5846 times:

Well I can tell you the pilot bid that is out for bid this week still has CLE open in its staffing for the following year.

It also includes only about +30 net crews on the B757, or just around 5 more airplanes.

Overall, the new bid reduces the number of pilots on CO mainline by about -100 net.

I think this bid is the best sign for those of you who want to speculate about our future.


User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5813 times:

It's just a new elite program guys....nothing exciting really (unless it affects you of course!).

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 5781 times:

The announcement on Monday is not about the "new elite" program as you call it. Firstly is the elite issue is a minor tweak, and is really part of a continuing tweak over the last 6 months or so, but really shouldn't be talked about on here. Besides, the elite stuff was in the MOU this month, so it is hardly worth a huge announcement if it were that.

I would also be surprised if it were to do with Skyteam as Gordon pretty much announced that months ago.

who knows
Jeremy


User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5761 times:

Well Artsy it starts on Monday the 15th and it's all we've heard about for the past 2 weeks....and we were told it was the biggest thing since we introduced Businessfirst. Maybe there is something else?? Who knows but that was my guess. I've been know to be wrong from time to time...hehe.

User currently offlineNickofatlanta From Australia, joined May 2000, 1487 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5661 times:

Could it be a variant of More Room Throughout Coach? I know Gordo has criticised the idea in the past, but maybe a possibility?

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

Well Artsy it starts on Monday the 15th and it's all we've heard about for the past 2 weeks....and we were told it was the biggest thing since we introduced Businessfirst
***********************

Yes, but like the other part of thr tweak, it is not public, and not meant to made public, so there would not be an announcement in regards to this


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5644 times:

Nick, you're not even on the map with that one.  Smile

Next contestant?

Artsy, unlike the first segment of the enhancement, this one is absolutely meant to go public, and for good reason, as you'll see.

[Edited 2003-09-13 06:37:05]

User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5624 times:

Well true they don't want to advertise it too much but today we got about a dozen new signs advertising it for our ticket counter. We spent all day moving lines and signs.....lots of fun! It's going to be more of a headache than anything!

User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 5605 times:

Yes, but like the other part of thr tweak, it is not public, and not meant to made public, so there would not be an announcement in regards to this

Somehow I fail to see how a multitude of "eliteAccess" signs at every hub equates to "not made public"  Smile


25 Jafa : THere has a been a persistent rumor here at NWA abouta major annoucement on Monday too. My guess is that NW/CO/DL will be joining SYKTEAM.
26 Artsyman : Somehow I fail to see how a multitude of "eliteAccess" signs at every hub equates to "not made public ******************** that isnt what I am referin
27 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Sean, is someone feeding you information? Someone has to be! I get it-I won't tell you, but you pound other "sources". You just can't wait till momday
28 Post contains images B747-437B : I won't tell you, but you pound other "sources". You just can't wait till momday, eh? You can't feed someone bait and then hope he doesn't bite!
29 Killerbabe : Also expected next week is an announcement from KLM. Rumors are high. If KL/NW/CO are joining Skyteam, what about MH, CZ an KQ, three big partners fro
30 Randy4920 : My guess is that it will be a system like UA's Economy Plus, with this being pre-assigned for Elite members at reservation time, and an extra charge f
31 Flyboyaz : The Elite Access is a new "Elite Status for a Day" plan. CO is going to guarantee anyone who buys a full Y fare ticket a window or aisle seat. If not
32 Cdfmxtech : CONFIDENTIALITY Directors and employees must maintain the confidentiality of non-public, proprietary information entrusted to them by the Company, its
33 CALMSP : so the last post was no fun to read, anyways what about EWR-ATH, maybe an announcement about that. I've been hearing things about the early launch of
34 Flyboyaz : Thanks for the notice Cdfm....we already have our signs out....it's starting Monday, unless they all of a sudden decide to pull it back...which is dou
35 N766UA : So this great new announcement is about getting a window seat or you get bonus miles? That's it? Bah!
36 HlywdCatft : That they are moving all of their CLE operations to DTW... j/k
37 Flyboyaz : I know doesn't seem very exciting does it N766...they must have something else up their sleeve....something they haven't even told us!
38 N766UA : I sure hope so! Something that affects more than just their glorious frequent flyers would be nice.
39 Post contains images Tavong : CO will buy A380!!!!! J/K in fact is too Bog for CO but maybe TU-204?
40 Greg : After reading a lot of similiar 'big news' posts....some of you consider new wallpaper in men's room 'huge news'..... UA and US declaring bankruptcy w
41 Copaair737 : perhaps CO is announcing nonstop IAH-GUM service???
42 Jetjack74 : You're all gettin furloughed!
43 Artsyman : CO is likely just issuing a press release... ******************** This wont be the case as they tend to do that without hoopla..., but Gordon made a c
44 Greg : Usually their legal counsel knows a bit more for no other reason that everything goes through legal before it's announced. They are notoriously tight
45 RP TPA : So......what's it gonna be?? New wallpaper in the mens' rooms in CLE?? New wallpaper in the restrooms of the new 7E7 flights from IAH to GUM?? Someone
46 PVD757 : What about them trying to finally purchase America West before somebody else does? I've always thought that US and HP would be a good marriage.
47 N670UW : I've always thought that US and HP would be a good marriage. The only problem would be a huge gap in the middle of the country.
48 MasseyBrown : Gordon Bethune is speaking to the International Aviation Club in Washington on Monday. I assume he will have something out of the ordinary to say, pro
49 Uadc8contrail : if uncle gordo is talkin to the intl aviation club its not going to be negative news.......
50 PVD757 : At least they could survive seeing as how they both have presence on only one coast. Two coasts are better than one; plus, they have a pretty good fle
51 9844 : Air Mic is for sale and NWA will be the buyer...
52 Klwright69 : Air Mic for sale? Doubt that seriously. When CO was in BK back in 91 and close to shutting down completely, they considered that option, then decided
53 Greg : Shakespeare said it best...It's "Much Ado About Nothing"... Major?...Get a grip!
54 Micstatic : Alpha-1, after hearing the official announcement today, I question your definition of major. That was a waste of time reading the press release. dg
55 Post contains images N766UA : Only 5% of the flying public is gunna give a hoot about this. As it said in the press release, only premium flyers benefeit. Yeah, it pissed me off. W
56 Jafa : I think the annoucement will be that all airliners.net members will appointed to the board of directors of each major airline.
57 Post contains images Johnboy : Well, to be fair, the OP did state what "major" meant to him, i.e. along the lines of the introduction of BusinessFirst. Of course, to me, "major" wou
58 KQ777 : Was the said announcement merely the creation of the "Elite for the day" program for full fare coach passengers, new OnePass and First Class Elite lan
59 HlywdCatft : I was hoping to hear of a new aircraft order or something
60 STT757 : "As a frequent coast to coast flyer, I know that CO is the only major airline serving the transcon market from New York to the West Coast not offering
61 Post contains images PVD757 : Boring, next rumor please................. Like why can't CO bring more than jungle jets to PVD. Their larger jets went out full, why have they decide
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