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Russian/CIS Airlines Likely To Use Boeing Aircraft  
User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 3561 times:

Which airlines are likely to use Boeing Aircraft in the future, or are already been doing so ?

I know Aeroflot uses them (I flew a 737 classic). KrasAir and Sibir have been seeking to add Western aircraft but haven´t done so, something with taxes blocks it.


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User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (11 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3482 times:

UM Air has gotten 737-300s and is/was trying to get A320s.

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User currently offlineCodeshare From Poland, joined Sep 2002, 1854 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 3453 times:

AeroSvit and Ukraine International use 737s and 767 a/c.
Belavia will use 737-500s.

Kazakhstan Airlines do.
Uzbekistan does. (I don't know the exact names of the ailines, sorry).



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User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19229 posts, RR: 52
Reply 3, posted (11 years 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 3349 times:

The problem with acquiring Western-produced aircraft from outside Russia, is that the airlines pay a huge import duty - sometimes up to 40%. Accordingly, Soviet-built aircraft are much more competitively priced. Obviously, this is a huge problem, although it can be remedied by creating an alliance with another airline within the CIS, as illustrated by Sibir and Arnavia.

UTAir are considering acquiring ATR or Dash 8 aircraft, although the AN-140 and IL-114 are more likely.



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User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 4, posted (11 years 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3333 times:

There are 3 737-500s with Air Zena, Georgia
2 757s with AZAL, Azerbaijan (also 2 727s)
A number of 757s and 717s with Turkmenistan Airlines

Kras Air tried to get 767s (ex-Ansett) but failed due to the abovementioned taxes in Russia.
Sibir seems to be more interested in Airbus but may find the 767 suitable for long range operations.

Aeroflot currently has 10-11 737-400s, 767(4) and 777(2)

The list of both Airbus and Boeings is growing slowly in Russia and the CIS

Best regards,

Vatche


User currently offlineLetit From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 3332 times:

Transaero has B737s and B767s, although when I was last at DME all the 737-200s I could see were parked up minus engines.

Uzbekistan Airways has A310s, B757s, B767s and RJ85s AFAIK.

Air Kazakstan had B737-200s when I last saw them (as well as A310s? B767?)

Air Astana has B737-700s and -800s, possibly others as well

I'm sure Tajikistan Airlines have something western (B757?)

Turkmenistan B717?



User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (11 years 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 3236 times:

As you might have noticed, not all of the Aeroflot Boeings do not carry a "RA-" registration, but a "VP-" registration. This was done to avoid the high import taxes. However, the tax issue is being discussed by the Russian government of relaxing that rule for western-built airliners, when it takes effect remains to be seen. Until then some other Russian/CIS carriers may seek to use a 3rd country to handle registration to avoid the tax.

Of course, this was all done so that the Russian/CIS carriers would continue to support Tupolev, Ilyushin, Antonov, and Yakovlev. The one thing that the Russian manufacturers must do is get up to western standards in terms of quality and safety. Though it is one thing for the jets to be built to (or over) a standard, but also for the airlines themselves to keep their fleet up to (or above) safety, quality, and servce standards. That seems to be the complaint among those who fly on Russian/CIS airlines.

Like any other airline in any part of the world, you can have the best equipment, but if you lack the staff to run it, and maintain it, you will just be an airline that sucks. Which means you will end up in the annals of airline history as another carrier who tried and failed, like the many others who went before them, and those who will follow.



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User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 3197 times:

The "VP-" registration for the Aeroflot Boeings belong to the British Virgin Islands.


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