LOS ANGELES -- A man who disrupted a United Airlines flight from Honolulu was subdued by passengers and airline officials who duct-taped him, then handed him over to authorities when the plane landed Sunday at Los Angeles International Airport, police said.
No one was reported injured during the altercation, said Sgt. Carl Sansbury of the airport police.
"The FBI is conducting an investigation," Sansbury said, adding he didn't know what prompted the outburst. He said police were called to the United gate at about 4:45 a.m. and took the man into custody, then handed him over to the FBI.
The man, whose name was not immediately released, could face a federal charge of interfering with a flight crew, Sansbury said.
"The aircraft landed at the gate without incident," he said.
One of the plane's passengers, Joseph Gugerty, said the man got out of his seat and began talking and wandering the aisle about 90 minutes after United Flight 54 left Honolulu for Los Angeles.
"He was pacing and reading the Bible," said Gugerty who was returning to Kentucky, where he is chief of communications in The Associated Press' Louisville bureau.
"They basically put him down and duct-taped him and the police took him off when the plane landed," Gugerty said. He added that about a half-dozen passengers helped an air marshal subdue the man.
"They let him wander back and forth in the plane until he started to move forward," Gugerty said. "Then they surrounded him and pushed him to the floor. I don't know where they got the duct tape from."
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Floris From Netherlands, joined Jun 2003, 243 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4652 times:
I bet someone from untied.com will find a way to criticize their handling of the situation.
As they should. Sounds to me United handled it pretty badly. So the guy is stretching his legs, reading the bible. How is that a crime? He didn't knock on the cockpit door did he? He didn't attach any crew members did he? Get real!
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5439 posts, RR: 5 Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4638 times:
Sounds to me United handled it pretty badly. So the guy is stretching his legs, reading the bible. How is that a crime? He didn't knock on the cockpit door did he? He didn't attach any crew members did he? Get real!
He sounds like he was somewhat emotionally disturbed but not dangerous. I figure he'll be filing a false-arrest lawsuit against UA within a month or so.
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
Brick From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1571 posts, RR: 8 Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4428 times:
I was suprised this morning to come into work to find out one of my fellow co-workers was actually on board this flight. He was returning from helping his daughter move to Hilo. At lunch today I asked him for his account of what had happened.
He said things first started out with the passenger sitting in his seat, reading passages from a book. It was not the Holy Bible, instead it looked like a Zionism related book. My co-worker was seated in the row behind the passenger, on the other side of the plane (which was a 777). At first the passenger read quiety, then he really raised his voice. My co-worker described his voice level as being "very disruptive", especially in the middle of a red eye flight. The passenger seated immediately next to and the one immediately in front of the disruptive passenger both got up at of their seats and turned to face him. The disruptive passenger then began shouting at them very louding about Satan, God, etc... Most of what he said was incomprehensible, though it definately had a "religous tone".
The disruptive passenger then got up and left his seat, walking up the aisle toward the galley in the front part of the coach cabin. Two "big and burley" passengers got up to follow him, more to keep an eye on him. Once he approached the galley, the flight attendents asked him to sit down, but he did not respond. The "big and burley passengers" took up positions near the exit doors sort of guarding them.
The man then walked back to his seat and made eye contact with every passenger along the aisle and kept his voice at a very disruptive level. Once back in his seat, he quieted down for a moment. One of the "burley" passengers sat down next to him as if to keep an eye on him. A short time later, he had another out burst. The flight attendents approached him while he was seated, but he failed to respond to them. He then got out of his seat again and headed for the galley, this time with about 5 or 6 passengers trailing behind him. The entire time he was still shouting something very loudly. Once again some of the passengers guarded the exit doors.
A person in one of the forward cabins identified himself as a psychologist and approached the galley. The disruptive passenger then returned to his seat and the psychologist sat down next to him. At this time, the captain made an annoucement over the PA that "all passengers must return to their seats and fasten their seat belts". Clearly, this annoucement was made by the crew because of this situation. After several minutes the psychologist got up and spoke with the flight attendents. When the psychologist vacated his seat next to the disruptive passenger, the two "burley" passengers sat down next to him.
Suddenly, the guy lets out a scream, climbs over one of the other passengers, and runs up the aisle again toward the galley, screaming loudly the entire way. This time, approximately 8 to 10 passengers had then got up out of their seats and formed a circle around him in the galley. Once more the flight attended tried to calm him down, but the passenger was hysterical at this point. One of the passengers approached the man and disruptive passenger "tried a weak swing" at him. That passenger then "decked" the disruptive passenger and he collapsed to the floor of the galley. One of the passengers on board identified himself as an off duty customs official who was travelling for pleasure. He had a set of hand cuffs with him that they placed on the disruptive passenger. The passenger kept screaming and by then clearly everyone on the plane was disturbed what had happened to this point. Several of the passengers put a single piece of duct tape on his mouth and he lay there on the galley floor for the remainder of the flight and during landing.
Shortly before landing, the captain annouced over the PA that when they reach the gate, everyone needs to remain seated so they can "assist a fellow passenger off of the aircraft". When the plane arrived at the gate, 6 LAPD officers boarded the plane and escorted him off. A brief annoucement was made by the LAPD over the PA that if anyone wishes to give a statement of what happened to please contact one of the officers on the jet bridge. My co-worker elected not to do so even though this all happened very near him and his wife. He did say about a dozen people did meet with the police officers and give statements.
My co-worker was very surprised to hear that this had made the national news. He commented that all of the passengers acted appropriately and no one over reacted. I asked him specifically if the crew over reacted to anything and he said "Absolutely not." He also said that even though only about 10 passengers or so got up to deal with the situation, the faces on everyone in the plane looked like they were going to get up too if things really got out of hand. I'm glad to see that...
So there you go folks... I don't wanna here any more about how everyone over reacted. The man failed to comply with crew instructions and was detained until the flight could make a safe landing.
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5439 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 4299 times:
He also said that even though only about 10 passengers or so got up to deal with the situation, the faces on everyone in the plane looked like they were going to get up too if things really got out of hand. I'm glad to see that...
Me too. If there's one good thing to come out of 9/11, it's that passengers will take more responsibility for their own safety.
It sounds as if the passenger in question is what is known as an EDP, or Emotionally Disturbed Person, rather than someone who'd had too much to drink.
I wonder if UA will offer any sort of compensation to the people on the flight. After all, it surely was an unpleasant experience for them.
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12562 posts, RR: 64 Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4067 times:
The people who subdued him must be awefully jumpy. I agree this guy's gunna have UA in court soon- and rightfully so.
Spare me. The guy disobeyed crewmember instructions, which is a violation of federal law. He then took a swing at someone, who retaliated and then a U.S. Customs officer placed him under arrest, handcuffing him.
Absolutely no rights were violated here. The guy brought everything on himself.
"In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem - government IS the problem." - Ronald Reagan
PROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5439 posts, RR: 5 Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 4074 times:
I don't see what this guy did wrong. Maybe he had a fear of flying? The people who subdued him must be awefully jumpy. I agree this guy's gunna have UA in court soon- and rightfully so.
I don't know ... based on Brick's post, which in turn is taken from someone who was on the flight, it sounds as if the man in question became progressively more agitated and finally lost it completely. He sounds much more like someone who is severely disturbed emotionally than your run-of-the-mill fearful flyer. His final outburst certainly did seem to call for physical intervention.
Which isn't to say, of course, that he won't end up suing UA, given the nature of the U.S. legal system.
"Let me think about it" = the coward's way of saying "no"
COboeing777 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 693 posts, RR: 5 Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3903 times:
I couldn't help but notice Brick's mention that two "big and burley" men stood by to guard the exit doors everytime the disturbed gentleman got up. Sure would have been a shame to see this wackjob escape by opening one of the exit doors inflight. Way to go "burly" guys!
25 ILoveORD: "He sounds like he was somewhat emotionally disturbed but not dangerous. I figure he'll be filing a false-arrest lawsuit against UA within a month or
26 Ual777contrail: ILOVEORD, Spoken like a true money hungry lawyer, trying to find reason to justify what he did. If he was on the ground walking on pier or at the mall
27 ILoveORD: Woah, woah UAL777. The part about the UA flight benefits was a joke; notice the "he he" and "J/k" (just kidding). But seriously, I do think the passen
28 PROSA: Now, I read the link to the article at the top of the thread BUT I will not take into account some unconfirmed second-hand account from some guy (ie B