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FA Fined $500 For An Apple  
User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3683 times:

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/news/local/6787490.htm

Oooh....I feel safer already.

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User currently offlineCaptain_777 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 295 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3593 times:

Well they are taking safety percautions. But I think that is taking it over board. I think they knew it was from the USA. But that's not for me to decide, that's for the customs people.


User currently offlineJetjack74 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 7408 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3591 times:
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It's not really aquestion of overdoing it security-wise, but that's foot&mouth got in here, and with the havoc that the SARS virus produced, being overly cautious is not overdone. That was one of the reasons I got furloughed was because of that. It's harsh, but she'll never forget to check her case. The UK can be worse as far as fines for agrigcultural reasons.


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3558 times:

This reminds me of the inaugural Air India flight to Chicago in 1996 where the captain was stopped by US Customs and fined for having a half eaten sandwich in his bag.

User currently offlineILoveORD From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 220 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3490 times:

Yeah, just another manifestation of post 9/11 overreaction. But I'm surprised the article doesn't mention her being subdued by passengers and duct-taped?!? But then again, she didn't make it to the plane...just imagine the fallout if is she ate it on the plane and chewed too loudly?


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User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3469 times:


Rules are rules, this is a new world we are living in, "Live it, Learn it, Do it". Sheesh, an apple in her suitcase, I hope her panties were clean.



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User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3391 times:

IloveORD, that's not another post 9/11 overreaction...this time ! it's been forbidden for years to enter the U.S with fresh food, especially Fruits/vegetables and meat, to "protect American Health..."  Nuts.

It makes me laugh when you see all the kind of shit/junk food and other transgenic things we can find there... Sad


User currently offlineManairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

The world's gone mad!

User currently offlineCaetravlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3282 times:

So, they can't bring it into the country. Confiscate it, but don't fine her for goodness sakes. She didn't do anything wrong knowingly. That was just some customs official who hadn't had any excitement all day...


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User currently offlineILoveORD From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 220 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

"it's been forbidden for years to enter the U.S with fresh food, especially Fruits/vegetables and meat, to "protect American Health..." "

But FLYSSC, one of the points of the article was that it was NOT a foreign apple, the apple was an American apple being checked at American customs...it didn't come from abroad--it even had a "Granny Smith and Washington" (an American apple farm) sticker on it. C'mon....



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User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6431 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Manairport: The world's gone mad!

No, the world hasn't gone mad. Four percent of the world has gone mad, those 4% which are called the USA.

Of course it's a good law that uncontrolled exchange of foodstock does not happen between the continents, but a $500 fine for forgetting an apple, be it a British or US apple, that's only a showpiece of a sick system. A warning or a $10 fine would be sensible.

Just imagine the other way around, that an American FA had been fined $500 for bringing an apple into my local airport Copenhagen. The US secretary of state would have called his ambassador back home, Danish ailines would have been banned from US airports etc. Well, it's hard to imagine since we all know that it will never happen.

Dear US of A, you consider yourself a developed country, you can easily become one. Just do it.



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User currently offlineMD88Captain From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1330 posts, RR: 20
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3014 times:

The rules are simple and the rules have been in force for a decades. No FA or pilot could be unaware of the agriculture/customs rules concerning food if they been flying for very long at all. At my airline we are continually reminded of the rules and potential fines. Just do it right. Where's the burden?

She was lucky. I believe they could have fined her up to $10,000.


User currently offlineCustoms172 From Japan, joined Sep 2003, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2924 times:

As a Customs Inspector myself I agree with the Inspector that fined her. My advice to people when coming though the airport here is to be sure of what is in your bags before you come to the inspection line. You are responsible for what is in your bag, even if you didn't know it was there. As for the sticker who cares. Its a prihibited item she didnt't declare it. Know whats in your bags. I had a guy declare a crack pipe. He said he didn't put it in his bag, and didn't know where it came from. Guess who went to jail? Thats my 2 cents

User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13554 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2884 times:
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You are responsible for what is in your bag, even if you didn't know it was there.

I'm a pretty levelheaded, reasonable person...and even I have to agree with the U.S. Customs inspector on this. She was ultimately responsible for the contents of her bag, and she, as a flight crew member, should have known better.

I'll tell you what, though...she'll NEVER forget to doublecheck her belongings next time! Call it "tough love" or whatever you want; it's negative reinforcement that will ensure compliance from now on.



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User currently offlineILoveORD From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 220 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2877 times:

Hold up Preben, let's not a start a war of civilizations here; because I guaran-damn-tee you that you'll lose every time. Now believe me, I'm not defending the fine by any stretch, but your conclusion that this matter is a "showcase of a sick system" is WAY overdrawn, not to mention melodramatic!

Furthermore, I don't see what you're protesting for; the fine was laidened on an American F/A for not following an American law: where do you get this "if it was the other way around" nonsense? It's not like a Danish F/A was fined $500 for being in violation of an American law...? It's OUR problem, NOT yours; and to get really technical, it's more of the F/A's problem.

Then, you have the balls to question our "development"? I'd like to know what your definition of development is? Because the last time I checked, Denmark's national GDP was barely a TENTH (that's right, less than 10%) of the USA's, ok bub. Oh yeah, and let's not forget Denmark's ingenious use of that b/s form of democracy so common in the "ultra-civilized" region of Scandinavian Europe commonly referred to as a constitutional monarchy. Oh please Denmark, show us measely Americans the path to developement!!!!



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User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6431 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2839 times:

Depressing to see Americans defend such a sick system.

Had it been a 3rd or 4th time offence. Or had it been for obvious economic gain. Or had it been generally illegal stuff - (Customs172 almost makes comparison between an apple and a crack pipe), then it would have been a different issue.

A forgotten apple, $500 fine, it's sick.

A sensible legal system warns and fines incidental offenders for making them remember the rules in the future, not for starving them and their kids. It is a very simple rule which is obeyed by every single developed country in the world.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
User currently offlineN757KW From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2815 times:

Just curious, does England have the same restriction on fresh fruits and meats? If so, the F/A could have very easily have brought a harmful insect to England. Since apparently according to the article, the apple made the round trip.

Working for an Asian carrier in ATL, I have seen the results of USDA collecting fresh fruits, meats, cheese, and all sorts of other items that are not permitted into the US.

Always watch what you take overseas, and what you bring back!



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User currently offlineCustoms172 From Japan, joined Sep 2003, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2799 times:

Apple, Crack Pipe,They are both illegal to bring into a country.... Here we even have a big poster on the wall for people like that FA and people like you to see, so that you know what must be declared. It even says "failure to report any items listed to a Customs Inspector can result in Min. $500.00 fine, or prosecution.
What more do you need.

[Edited 2003-09-18 00:20:40]

User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

The lights dim as the iron curtain slowly decends...

:-|

[Edited 2003-09-18 00:28:35]

User currently offlineILoveORD From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 220 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2750 times:

I think it's depressing that there are some begrudging foreigners out there who are using this F/A's unfortunate situation to voice their anti-American views and justify their outlandish and fatuous ideas about the American legal system.


[Edited 2003-09-18 00:40:50]


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User currently offlineCancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2718 times:

that's seriously ludicrous!  Pissed


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User currently offlineJahckass From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

I still dont get why the crack pipe person went to jail. you said that he DID declared it right?

User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2697 times:

"I think it's depressing that there are some begrudging foreigners out there who are using this F/A's unfortunate situation to voice their anti-American views and justify their outlandish and fatuous ideas about the American legal system."

Yup... I agree. I think what's even more depressing is when Americans do it. (Thinks back to Oklahoma)


User currently offlineCustoms172 From Japan, joined Sep 2003, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2682 times:

Jahckass
Sorry about that, let me explain a bit more. Im a US Military Customs Inspector on a Military base. The person that declared the crack pipe was an active duty Marine. In the military possesion on drugs or pariphinalia will get you a good ole trip to the brig. Last I heard he's doing 1 year and a dishonorable discharge. I think he was just trying to get out of the Military.

[Edited 2003-09-18 00:52:51]

User currently offlinePrebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 6431 posts, RR: 54
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2656 times:

Dear N757KW, yes, it's a general world wide rule that you don't bring fresh food uncontrolled between continents. And a very good (and old) rule indeed. It's nothing specially American.

You shall not forget an apple or raisin in your pocket!!! There is no question about that.

The question is only that if it happens to you anyway, then be sure to carry a large stack of green notes in the other pocket, or be absolutely sure that your plane doesn't land in Moscow or Cincinnati.



Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
25 Jjbiv : What about the catering on-board the aircraft? How about the food in her stomach? Should we be declaring the contents of our colons when clearing cust
26 EA CO AS : A sensible legal system warns and fines incidental offenders for making them remember the rules in the future Which would require a database to list a
27 Frntman : Maybe I'm way off base on this one, but don't you abide by the rules of whatever country you're in whether you agree with them or not? I remember wait
28 Post contains images Birdwatching : Jjbiv: The law is that when travelling into the US, within the next 48 hours of passing immigration (NOT customs), anything you drop into a toilet wit
29 SPLOBKrakow : thats a funny story!!!! Cheking flight atterndant is one thing, but giving them a fine for forgeting something in the suitcase that rediculus. And the
30 Delta-flyer : Well, of course she "broke the rules" by absent-mindedly bringing an apple into the US. I am sure than no one will disagree that it was a perfectly ho
31 Bd1959 : Give her a break. This was her first offence - it was an American Apple - and before anyone starts berating Australia's fruit laws (actually it's indi
32 Kosmonaute : Because the last time I checked, Denmark's national GDP was barely a TENTH (that's right, less than 10%) of the USA's, ok bub Yes...but let's remember
33 L-188 : Although the Customs inspector was well within his rights to seize the apple and fine the F/A (The apple had been overseas so for customs purposes, it
34 ILoveORD : Kosmonaute, "Yes...but let's remember that Denmark has a population that is about 285 million less than that of the United States', and the average an
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