Osteogenesis From Germany, joined May 2003, 647 posts, RR: 2 Posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 8064 times:
The year 2003 has been a remarkable year for the A320 Family, the leader in the single-aisle market. This family has now earned its place in the record books as the most successful aircraft family ever with over 3,000 aircraft sold. Over 2,000 A320 Family aircraft are now in-service, a number unmatched in the history of civil jet aviation, making it the most popular jetliner ever.
GKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24748 posts, RR: 57 Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7993 times:
The fact isthat over 3000 (or 4000) 737s have been built/sold, so the Airbus claim that making it the most popular jetliner ever.
is total crap.
Maybe its got the most in service atm, but that doesnt make it the most popular.
Airbus propoganda again
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GLA MD11 From France, joined Mar 2000, 277 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 7900 times:
I am not pro or against Airbus but I think they are right: Over 2,000 A320 Family aircraft are now in-service. Even if Boeing has built 3000 737, they are far from having them all in service (I think about 1800 are in service nowadays).
Kempa From Brazil, joined Aug 2003, 372 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7594 times:
My 11-year old son is learning about statistics, and especially, the "misuse of statistics". Depending on how the statement is written, the B737 family, or the A320, or the DC-3 could be the most "successful" airliner ever built.
Truth is, having flown on both the B737 and the A320 families, there is no big difference for the passenger.
Elwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6 Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7529 times:
You beat me to it. The DC-3 sold more than 10,300 copies both as a civilian airliner and as the C-47. At one time, more than 5,000 were in service with airlines around the world.
However, the statement was that the A-320 was the most successful jetliner in history. I have problems with that. More than 4,000 737s have been built, and about 2,500 DC-9/MD-80/90/717-200s (976 DC-9, 1200+? MD-80 and MD-90, and over 125 717) have entered service since 1967. The A-320 has a long way to go in both instances.
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Aloha73g From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2320 posts, RR: 5 Reply 15, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 7503 times:
I think true success is measured over the long term. The 70 year old DC-3 and 30+ year old 737 and DC-9 families have proved their worth far more than the A-320 family has. The A-320 may have a case in 2020 when they have a comparable track record.
It isn't purely the number of airframes built, it is how that design performs and evolves over time.
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Dionysus From Thailand, joined Aug 2003, 67 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7364 times:
Yes, Boeing has sold more 737s than Airbus has sold their A32Xs.
It depends on how you would define "successful". However it is unfair to say that 737 is the more successful than A32Xs. As already mentioned by AirbusLover, when did 737 production started? and when did A32X?
Ual747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 7308 times:
While one can argue that the Airbus has produced more examples in a shorter amount of time than the 737, you also have to remember that the A320 was born into a much more favorable market to sell more examples. Simply put, I would venture a guess that there are MANY more people flying these days than those of which the 737 was born into. But again, to make comparisons between these two aircraft is purely subjective. There are too many factors involved to find out which one is TRUELY more sucessful. Airbus's claim is basically THEIR subjective analysis.
25 Qwerty: Truth is, having flown on both the B737 and the A320 families, there is no big difference for the passenger. There's quite a difference. I don't know
26 Corsair2: The DC-9 family has been incredibly successful to still be flying some large fleets (NW, Midwest) after 37 years of service. And they will make it ove
27 Behramjee: We all know that the B 737 is the most successful family of aircraft ever, so why not make this forum more interesting by asking which family of aircr
28 Ual747: Probably the most accurate comparisons you could do would be between the 777 and the A340/330 families, and possibly the MD-11 although we know what t
29 N844AA: I think it'll be quite some time before the A320 even comes close to surpassing the 737's production total. A bit over 4400 737's have been produced a
30 Ual747: Not to mention that the 737 is continuing production, which may keep the gap wide open. But eventually, the market will become saturated with A32X's a
31 Stefandotde: lol@Ual747 - what about 320? Airbus stopped production? Since how many years Boeing produces 737? Since how many years Airbus produces 320? And you ca
32 Greg: Actually, you can bend the stats even further..cause the 73NG has, in fact, sold faster than the 320....(about same number of frames over less years).
33 Stefandotde: Greg, I am sure, Boeing will confirm that. And you can be sure that I don't believe the confirmation from Boeing (or Airbus). You are talking about th
34 Danny: Yes guys - count 737-200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900 but only A320 not 319 etc. See - you may manipulate this as you want. It is a cliche like:
35 CitationJet: Since the topic is AIRCRAFT and not AIRLINER, and if you consider "successful" to mean the most quantity built, I suggest that the Cessna 172 should b
36 Aloha717200: One of the funniest things I see is that if you go to the Airbus website, they announce themselves as the industry leader in commercial airplanes. If
37 OE-LDA: Just select the criteria right and each one of us can be "world record holder", "world champion", "best of all times", and so on. Therefore the questi
38 StefanDotDe: lol@ Aloha. That is why I told Greg: "And you can be sure that I don't believe the confirmation from Boeing (or Airbus)."
39 Cfalk: This data is about 1 month old. 737 Family Built : 3,132 (classic), 1,344 (NG), Total: 4,476 Total Built + Outstanding firm orders : 5,308 Built since
40 Ual747: Stefandotde, Again you have failed to see my point. Whether it's a language barrier or something else, I don't know. "lol@Ual747 - what about 320? Air
41 Elwood64151: Stefandotde: The fact that the A320 has sold more examples in the same period of time is still a subjective analysis. Comparing the DC-9 family to the
42 Scorpio: Technically, Airbus is right. You see, they compare the number of A32X planes produced not to the total number of 737s, but to the three different gen
43 AvObserver: Osteogenesis, I generally respect your posts but you and others, here, who embark on accolading a manufacturer based solely on their own hype must be
44 Birdwatching: What do you define as a family? Isn't 727 and 757 more similar than 737-100 and 737-900?
45 STT757: "Isn't 727 and 757 more similar than 737-100 and 737-900?" No.
46 Cfalk: Technically, Airbus is right. You see, they compare the number of A32X planes produced not to the total number of 737s, but to the three different gen
47 Aloha717200: I agree with Cfalk. And, if we're all going to call for equal comparison, and ask that the numbers of the A321 and A319 sales be included in compariso