MSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6347 posts, RR: 50 Reply 1, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 2431 times:
Well, I'd say the chances are slim and none. I haven't heard anything about this at work. Where did you hear this anyway? YVR could be a good route from LAX...but surely it would be started from DEN first.
LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2055 posts, RR: 38 Reply 2, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2303 times:
Well stated MSY. Besides they stated awhile ago it would STL or PIT to get non DEN flights when and if they do start. However, I think that was just leverage to get gates at DEN, I would guess DEN would continue to be their focus of ops for a looong time to come. Besides, as pointed out by MSY, none of those routes make sense except for YVR.
LambertMan From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2055 posts, RR: 38 Reply 5, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2132 times:
The airline never said that.... Frontier Airlines would consider starting a secondary hub in Pittsburgh, St. Louis or another market if Denver International Airport failed to provide enough gates to accommodate its growth, a Frontier official said Wednesday.
Scottb From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6442 posts, RR: 33 Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2002 times:
I don't think LambertMan ever claimed Frontier definitely WOULD consider PIT or STL as a second hub either; the operative phrase being "when and if" here.
While LAX is indeed a large market, Frontier would face quite a bit of competition on routes up and down the West Coast -- from Alaska, United, American, Southwest, jetBlue, and even America West. I'm not sure they'd be well-advised to pick that fight.
Mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 23930 posts, RR: 87 Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1966 times:
I agree that LAX would be problematic, if only because of the lack of gates.
Howsumever, one problem for Frontier is this: they are building a fairly loyal customer base (LCB), and with the great tv ads going national, they base will probably improve.
The drawback for (some of) Frontier's LCB is that presently limited to flying through DEN. There is no north/south flying.
So while the competition is fierce on both coasts, I could imagine Frontier doing a couple of 2 x daily on some of the better coastal routes. Not as "competitive" business, not as a fight, but giving the LCB a choice.
Or not even purely coastal. An alternative way for Frontier's customers to get from - say - SFO to Chicago might work.
Then again, with today's announcement of the deal with Horizon, which will effectively double the Jet Express fleet, plus the rumors of red-eyes from DEN to Florida this winter, Frontier appears to be in a good position to do pretty much what it wants.
Frntman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 209 posts, RR: 2 Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 1853 times:
The December schedule was just released earlier this week. These flights, scheduled around the holidays, provide great timing.
In addition to the redeyes, some flights which would normally remain overnight in FL will turn for a late evening departure. In most cases, this will be the last departure heading west from the respective FL airport.