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Horizon - Frontier Jet Express  
User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Posted (11 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2988 times:

Starting in the new year Horizon will be taking over from Mesa as Frontier Jet Express. We'll start with four and eventually grow to nine aircraft (CRJ 700's) painted in Frontier Express colors.

Could be interesting....

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User currently offlineCactusA319 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 2918 posts, RR: 25
Reply 1, posted (11 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2980 times:



Interesting indeed....

What's the reasoning behind the change? Does F9 feel the CRJ700 would fill their needs better than the -200?



User currently offlineBoeing757/767 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (11 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2958 times:

Remember the airline FrontierHorizon? Weird how this new relationship sounds familiar.


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25260 posts, RR: 85
Reply 3, posted (11 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2953 times:
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CactusA319:

The reason behind the change is MESA's decision to switch to UAL. They can't fly duplicate routes for both UAL and F9, which left F9 in a hole.

And they found a terrific solution.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (11 years 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2915 times:

What's the reasoning behind the change? Does F9 feel the CRJ700 would fill their needs better than the -200?

I think that boils down to us simply happening to fly the 70 seaters already in our fleet more than anything else.


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13602 posts, RR: 61
Reply 5, posted (11 years 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2836 times:
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Here's the press release:

Press Release Source: Horizon Air

Horizon Air Partners with Frontier Airlines for Frontier JetExpress Regional Jet Service

Thursday September 18, 11:28 am ET

SEATTLE--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 18, 2003--Horizon Air announced today it has signed a 12-year agreement with Denver-based Frontier Airlines to operate regional jet service as Frontier JetExpress, effective Jan. 1, 2004.
Under the 12-year agreement, Horizon will initially operate four 70-seat Bombardier CRJ-700 aircraft as Frontier JetExpress beginning Jan. 1, 2004, and will eventually operate nine CRJ-700s as Frontier JetExpress by May 30, 2004.

Horizon will employ a combination of new aircraft deliveries and an
optimization of their current flight schedules to provide the aircraft for the new service.

Horizon replaces Frontier's current regional jet operator, Mesa Airlines, whose agreement with Frontier expires Dec. 31, 2003. The Frontier JetExpress routes currently operated from Denver by Mesa include Albuquerque, Austin, Boise, Oklahoma City, Ontario, San Jose, Tucson, and Wichita. The routes and schedules of Horizon's Frontier JetExpress flights have not been finalized.

"We're excited to be entering this new line of business and pleased to be working with a quality partner like Frontier," said Jeff Pinneo, Horizon Air president and CEO. "Horizon is committed to providing our new customers at Frontier the same high level of reliability and service that our customers in the Northwest have come to expect from Horizon."

Under the agreement, Frontier will pay Horizon a base margin and performance-based incentives to operate flights as Frontier JetExpress. Frontier will maintain control of scheduling and destinations. Horizon's crews - pilots and flight attendants - will fly the aircraft, which will be painted in Frontier JetExpress livery, and Horizon's mechanics will provide maintenance on them.

Horizon expects to eventually base about 100 pilots, 100 flight attendants and 30 maintenance personnel in Denver for their Frontier JetExpress operation. Frontier employees will perform airport customer service operations and take reservations for the Horizon Frontier JetExpress flights.

"Our regional jet service has provided extra depth to our business strategy, and we are excited at the opportunity to partner with a top quality airline like Horizon Air," said Frontier president and CEO Jeff Potter. "Horizon's commitment to customer service matches our philosophy, and we look forward to a successful partnership that will allow us to bring Frontier's affordable fares to more communities."

Founded 22 years ago, Horizon Air has grown to become the nation's eighth largest regional airline, serving nearly 5 million passengers last year. Horizon serves 43 cities throughout Idaho, California, Oregon, Washington, Montana, Arizona, British Columbia and Alberta. Horizon Air and Alaska Airlines are subsidiaries of Alaska Air Group, Inc.).

Currently in its tenth year of operations, Denver-based Frontier Airlines is the second largest jet service carrier at Denver International Airport with a fleet of 38 aircraft. Frontier and its affiliate Frontier JetExpress currently serve 40 U.S. cities with 200 daily flights.




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User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (11 years 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2737 times:

This is great news for Horizon Airlines from a business perspective, however, I'm sure it's going to have a negative effect on PDX present and future operations..Too bad....

User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (11 years 4 days ago) and read 2693 times:

Like what kind of affect???

None that we're foreseeing at all.


User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (11 years 4 days ago) and read 2675 times:

For example future routes that were being considered from PDX/SEA. Horizon is not going to be able to expand out of either airports if the planes aren't available for the next 12 years...

User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (11 years 4 days ago) and read 2672 times:

....lets take this to the other thread....or we'll be playing bulletin board tag all day!  Big grin


User currently offlineIloveBOI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 4 days ago) and read 2666 times:

I think I know what Lenald is saying. I doubt PDX ops will expand as much as it is. What scares me is what they're going to do with BOI. This is something I have been afraid of. I have a slight feeling they'll discontinue...

BOI-Pocatello
BOI-Sun Valley(Seasonal)
BOI-Idaho Falls

Those are routes I will assume for QX to discontinue, because QX just started SEA-Pocatello
SEA-Idaho Falls

I  Love BOI


User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (11 years 4 days ago) and read 2655 times:

Why would we discontinue them??? BOI is going to be a key player for us for many years. Especially with the F9 agreement because we have maintenance in BOi and that will be an alternate for mtx RON's in DEN.

I don't see any cutbacks in BOI flying, haven't heard of any anyway.


User currently offlineIloveBOI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 4 days ago) and read 2629 times:

Is BOI a key player? I would be happy for a yes, but it seems QX has been decreasing service lately.

Then again, QX and AS did buy quite a bit of gates for the new concourses that are coming. Who knows? I guess time will tell.

I  Love BOI


User currently offlineLeneld From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 606 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

So what is Horizon's future plans for PDX anyway?

User currently offlineAirnondo From Moldova, joined May 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2465 times:

I don't think this will damage PdX too much...it actually could be a good think if Frontier and Alsaka ever moved into a code share agremnt.. Short term it does raise in question Horizon's PdX-DeN routes.
Only time will tell.


User currently offlineDash8tech From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 732 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2414 times:

I can't see Frontier entering a "code share" agreement with AS...it's not something many LCC's actually do....is it??

As far as our plans for PDX...? Good question really, there's no plans to pull back at all. Expansion? Maybe not next year. 2004 was going to be a slow growth year for AAG all round I believe.


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