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Why No Delta MD-80s At SLC?  
User currently offlineTango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3806 posts, RR: 29
Posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4020 times:

In searching through Delta timetables dating from 1987 (when DL's first MD-80 was delivered) to the present, I have never found a flight to/from their Salt Lake City hub operated by MD-80 equipment. Moreover, a search of the airliners.net photo database for MD-80/Delta Air Lines/Salt Lake City produced no matches.

For what reason(s) has Delta not scheduled their MD-80s on flights to/from SLC?

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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 4007 times:

I believe it is because of the "hot and high" conditions of SLC.

User currently offlinePeachAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 367 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3975 times:

Copaair737 is correct. This aircraft does not perform well (economiclly) at these high altitude airports. YES it can operate safely, but does not operate scheduled service in to SLC because of the limitations that altitude and summer heat place on the aircraft. MTOW and CLW and RATOW are all impacted by the MD-88's performance in "hot and high" airports.

User currently offlineKateAV8 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 99 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 3970 times:

My roommate is a manager in the Maintenance Dept at Delta/Hartsfield - he says MD-88s don't have the performance to fly into SLC - As Copaair737 said, too hot/high. MD-90s and 737s are a better fit.  Smile Hope that helps.


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User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3828 times:

Why American MD-82 or 83 were flying to SLC daily from ORD, STL and DFW? How come not MD88? It doesn't make any sense!


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User currently offlineDeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3785 times:


Could it be the type of engines? Are DLs MD-88 engines different from AAs MD-82/83?


User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8374 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3764 times:

I think it's just AAs preference. They have so many Mad Dogs they gotta put them somewhere!


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User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8913 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3736 times:

In addition, I think part of the reason is that the MD-88s work a lot better out East because of the route network. The MD-88 is a great plane for short hops, which Delta has many of ex-ATL and CVG, but not as much ex-SLC. The 737 has overall better performance on some of these longer pokes (greater than 500 miles) than the MD-88 does.

Jeff


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3716 times:

Ok, I got a question.

what about Reno and Reno Air? Isn't Reno's climate much like that of Salt Lake City and infact hotter and also isn't it also a pretty high altitude there?

Yet Reno Air chose the MD-80 for its fleet.


User currently offlineSushka From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 4784 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3668 times:

There are Delta MD-90s here. I see them All the time. But I dont think I have seen any MD80s ever at SLC.


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User currently offlineConcorde1518 From United States of America, joined May 2001, 746 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3606 times:

It's not that they CAN'T operate into SLC, it's just that Delta must figure it's better to put something else, like a 757 or 737 into SLC.

 Smile


User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3569 times:

Well guys, I fly in and out of SLC several times a year (I go to school in Northern Utah), and I could be mistaken, but I could've SWORN that I've seen Delta MD-80's in SLC before. In fact, I'm almost sure of it.

Who knows though, I could be losing it! lol!


User currently offlineATA L1011 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1392 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3562 times:

They also donot touch LA or SD, but I agree with what Deltairlines said because if they wanted to they could operate out of SLC. AA does it everyday with ease.


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User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3508 times:

Delta uses their MD-90s for routes mostly east of DFW. From my experiences, everything on an MD equip. from the east coast to DFW is MD-80s, then DFW-west coast is majority MD-90s.


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User currently offlineDrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 19 hours ago) and read 3479 times:

Well, its not that they can't operate them there. The fact that other airlines fly MD80s into SLC has no bearing on DL's decision. Operating a large number of MD88s that are less econimical to fly than other aircraft in the fleet-is not utilizing resources to the full advantage. As far as the poster stating that he saw MD88s--they were more than likely MD90s.


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User currently offlineMilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2012 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3380 times:

Denver is 1000 feet higher than SLC and Delta operates MD-88's DEN-ATL. I think they operated them out of Stapleton too. The hot high performance is the reason and the proximity of the SLC to the mountains, plus the runways run north and south

User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3307 times:

AA's MD-80's also have MRTG, meaning they seat about 16 people less than DL's birds... ar 210 pounds per person, that means they are full up with 3360 pounds less; combined with fairly short routes, it makes sense that AA can operate them from SLC where DL would not.

Steve


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 17, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3296 times:

So what do they operate on most flights? 757s and 738s?

What DID they operate pre-738? All 732s, 727s, and 757s?

I haven't changed at the SLC hub since I was a wee tyke.

N


User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3292 times:

They still operate 762's and 763's. To/from SEA, ATL and CVG I think. (The one from SEA stops in SLC to/from ATL.)

Oh, and I dunno if they still do, but as of 2 years ago they operated a 767 (not sure which type) to LAS from SLC.

When I fly home from school, I always fly DL 1234, which is either a 762 or 763.

[Edited 2003-09-19 05:26:03]

User currently offlineBrons2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3017 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (11 years 3 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3278 times:

In the 80s, I flew a 767 (!!!) SLC-PDX a few times.


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