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Shortest Flight On A 744?  
User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12573 posts, RR: 46
Posted (11 years 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 6483 times:
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Last night I flew DOH-BAR-LHR. The captain told us the DOH-BAR leg was officially listed at 125 miles. Is this the shortest scheduled flight in a 744?

Out of interest, the plane was nearly empty (pax and fuel) for this leg, and the take-off was hugely impressive - we used very little runway and the initial rate of climb was incredible! When we left BAR we'd just about filled with pax and had been refueled, and we experienced a more normal 747 take off.


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User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6395 times:

BAR - do you mean Bahrain ? That's BAH.

rgds//Vimanav



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User currently offlineManxATP From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6270 times:

I can't tell you the mileage, but I did TAB to GND with VS in August and that seemed fairly short (20 mins)on a 744.

User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6241 times:

I would take a look at the intra-Japan segments operated with the 744D by JAL and ANA........some runs are quite short.

Thai, at one time, flew 744s on the BRU-FRA-BKK route, I flew this flight out of BRU (in the pre-Star alliance days) and the BRU-FRA segment was very short, about 200 miles. I mention it since there may be other "odd" flights such as this where an extra city is tagged onto the long range flight.


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7412 posts, RR: 57
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6236 times:

When Air France was still operating the 744 between CDG and EZE four years ago, the Saturday flight AF416 was continuing on the sunday from EZE to MVD. This was only a little jump over the Rio de la Plata river : the flight itself was less than 20 mn.

User currently offlineAms From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1691 posts, RR: 11
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6188 times:

The shortest flight within Japan is from Osaka Itami ITM to Tokyo HND
Jal and Ana are flying 744 aircraft on these routes.


User currently offlineBmacleod From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6038 times:

For a short time back in 1997, AirCanada had a stopover in YUL on its YOW-LHR service using 74E's (30 minutes I believe). 763s took over the route in early 1998.


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User currently offlineScbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12573 posts, RR: 46
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6010 times:
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Oops, yes of course, BAR = BAH Embarrassment


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User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 5985 times:

My shortest 744 flight was from FRA to LHR on SW, the distance between both cities is 655 km (407 miles) and the flight time was approximately 1 hour.

Patrick


User currently offlineSuspen From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5857 times:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/649573
A few short flights are discussed here... not restricted to -400 though  Smile



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User currently offlineCanyonBlue From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5806 times:

My father has flown MSP-DTW on a NW 744. This was back in 1997. I guess it was a repo flight. Not the shortest but still not very long in the air.

User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5777 times:

United often flies 744s between LAX and DEN and SFO and DEN.

Northwest does occassionally fly a 744 between DTW and MSP but yeah that is for maintenance.

Definitely the shortest flights would be those ANA and Japan Air flight on those special customized 744D or whatever they are called without the winglets that look like a 747-300.


User currently offlineKilavoud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 5662 times:

When Air India was serving GVA-ROM-DEL-BOM 15 years ago with 747, the portion GVA-ROM (700 km) was an one hour jump, short but nice over the Alps. GVA is not anymore on AI route now.


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User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5644 times:

When Air India was serving GVA-ROM-DEL-BOM 15 years ago with 747, the portion GVA-ROM (700 km) was an one hour jump, short but nice over the Alps. GVA is not anymore on AI route now.

Going off the topic a bit... but AI and Alps somehow sound a bit eerie to me. Rather strange that AI has lost two aircraft in the Alps over the years.

rgds//Vimanav



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User currently offlineKilavoud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5603 times:

Vimanav,
You say two, I remember one, it was a 707, the plane hit the Mont Blanc in the Alps just before landing in Geneva, about 37 years ago. It was so sad. I've been flying many times with Air India very near the Mont Blanc, almost touching it, just before landing in Geneva, very impressive. Regards. Kilavoud.


User currently offlineVimanav From India, joined Jul 2003, 1516 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5558 times:

You say two, I remember one, it was a 707, the plane hit the Mont Blanc in the Alps just before landing in Geneva, about 37 years ago

Kilavoud
On November 3, 1950 an AI Constellation VT-CQP crashed just below the summit of Mont Blanc killing 8 crew and 40 pax. The crash you mentioned was on January 24, 1966, B707 VT-DMN which also crashed into Mont Blanc killing 117 persons.

Both very very unfortunate.

rgds//Vimanav



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User currently offlineKilavoud From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 5529 times:

Thank you Vimanav for the information.

User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 5337 times:

UA last fall used to operate a 744 on Saturday only LAX-SFO as a continuation of the SAL-LAX flite.


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5295 times:

On November 3, 1950 an AI Constellation VT-CQP crashed just below the summit of Mont Blanc

You are absolutely correct.

The irony of this is that VT-CQP (Malabar Princess) had the honour of operating Air India's inaugural international service to London just 2 years prior to that. The commander of that inaugural flight, Capt. D.Jatar, was later killed in an infamous terrorist incident, namely the bombing of VT-DEP (Kashmir Princess) en route to Bandung in 1955. And of course, the VT-DMN (Kanchenjunga) crash is mourned in India for causing the death of Dr. Homi Bhabha, father of the Indian nuclear bomb. However, the sister one of the air hostesses killed in the "Kanchenjunga" crash (who joined Air India as an air hostess herself in 1966 following the crash) was subsequently killed in the crash of VT-EBD (Ashoka) in 1978, and their niece (daughter of a third sister who also flew for Air India) was killed in the crash of VT-EFO (Kanishka) in 1985. Eerie tragic coincidences all the way down the line.

[Edited 2003-09-21 02:43:08]

User currently offlineSIN747 From Singapore, joined Aug 2003, 59 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 5269 times:

Years ago I flew an SQ 744 SIN-KUL. At the time it was a normally scheduled flight. If memory serves me, it was the 1700 ex SIN.

I also flew an MH 744 FRA-AMS some time back, but I think thats about 40-50 miles further than SIN-KUL.


User currently offlinePositive rate From Australia, joined Sep 2001, 2143 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5123 times:

CX Flight 105 arrives every Sunday morning from Hong Kong to (adelaide). It departs as CX 104 to Melbourne and then Hong Kong. Adelaide-Melbourne is a very short flight for a 744- only about 300NM.

User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5100 times:

BA used to fly their 744 LGW-PHX-SAN....I actually flew on it from SAN to PHX when I went to SAN to help the station out when I worked for BA.

User currently offlineBobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 weeks ago) and read 5075 times:

About 6 years ago i was sitting in the AA hanger with my dad at AFW. Sitting outside on the ramp was a Korean Air 744. Im not exactly sure why it was there anymore but i know it went from AFW-DFW which is about 20miles away. I know an AA 757 made that trip in just under 8 minutes. Even though this route wasnt a scheduled route it did do the little hop which i would think would be the shortist out of anywhere.

User currently offlineCapri From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 450 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 weeks ago) and read 5065 times:

AT uses its B744 for CMN-RAK 200km, 20mn ride

User currently offlineExpressjetphx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4998 times:

BA first used a DC-10 on the LGW-PHX-SAN route. This was later upraged to a 744 (about 20-30min flight). Subsequently, BA decided to change its oprations and gave SAN its own LGW route with the 772, and switched PHX to a 772 also, the day LH began its A343 FRA-PHX route. Then, both LGW-SAN, and LGW-PHX were switched to LHR-SAN, LHR-PHX with the 772 also. The LHR-SAN service was dropped shortly after, and recently BA has decided to upgrade LHR-PHX to a 744 once again, because the 772 in the 4-class config. was too small.

25 Vimanav : However, the sister one of the air hostesses killed in the "Kanchenjunga" crash (who joined Air India as an air hostess herself in 1966 following the
26 Post contains links and images Mas777 : Malaysia Airlines launches new London flights to Langkawi and Penang from this winter. MH7 will thereafter fly onwards to Kuala Lumpur - so those sect
27 Hoons90 : Didn't a BA 744 fly LHR-Duxford during the airshow ? The flight time was no more than 15 minutes, I heard.. Aircraft was G-CIVX.
28 ChrisNH : My shortest 747-400 flight--although it wasn't scheduled--was a United flight from Milwaukee to O'Hare. We were initially bound from San Francisco to
29 Mozart : At peak vacation times (like this year around Easter and May1) Air France used scheduled 747s on the Paris ORY-Corsica route. Not sure they were -400s
30 Stefandotde : Must have been in 2000 - a SQ 744 departing from Taipei. Seconds after take-off for its flight to the US plane crashed.
31 Post contains images Planesarecool : Mine was from Heathrow to Heathrow back in 2000. Well ok, we were flying to Vancouver but we had to fly back as soon as we got up so really it was LHR
32 Boeingflyer : LH´s first 744 flew only FRA-HAM (replacing a 737 on this route) for some weeks in 1989 when this new a/c joined the fleet. The 70 min flights were a
33 B747-437B : Air India currently has the 104nm COK-TRV segment scheduled for a 744. Air India also operates the 82nm CCJ-COK segment with a 742.
34 Flyboyaz : That's great about BA upgrading the PHX flight to a 744 again. Man, that flight was full ALL the time...can't imagine they left with many seats open o
35 Post contains links and images EGFFbmi : How about CWL-LHR, there is a British Airways Maintanece Center here at Cardiff and we get aircraft here such as A320, B737, B747, B777 here. Ok I adm
36 Copaair737 : UA did, or maybe still does fly the 744 between SFO-OAK for maintainence. This might have changed because of UA shutting down the UA mx base
37 Jafa : Once flew a 747-400 from ORD-DTW, 40 minutes in the air. Aircraft was used to check out a new captain. It was a substitute for a DC9. I was hoping to
38 Ryan h : When I flew to Kuala Lumpur with Malaysia Airlines from Adelaide we first stopped in Melbourne. Flying time was about 1 hour
39 Birdwatching : When Lufthansa flew to Quito (Ecuador) in the late 80s, they sometimes were diverted to Guayaquil due to fog. Then they would fly up to Quito the next
40 Cpharris5514 : When I lived in Seattle, United had a DC-10 that flew between SEA and YVR, usually as a continuation flight from ORD to SEA. NW also operated DC10s be
41 Eg777er : Bahrain-Doha is 79nm. Some other ranges that have been mentioned in this thread: LAX-SFO 293nm ORD-DTW 204nm KUL-SIN 160nm LHR-CWL 108nm FRA-HAM 223nm
42 VCE : When AZ had the 747 on its fleet, it was a daily flight from Rome FCO to Milan MXP.
43 Stefandotde : AZ has 747-400, VCE?
44 Eham : Cathay Pacific used to fly AMS - MAN - AMS, but both destinations are now served independently from Hongkong. I think AMS - MAN is about 45 minutes fl
45 Post contains links and images VCE : AZ has 747-400, VCE? AZ had actually the 747-200. Anyway the shuttle Rome-Milan/MXP was operated even with a 747. View Large View MediumPhoto © A
46 Lapper : OK, from the past: EI DUB-SNN and VV on their transatlantics. And currently: JL LAS-LAX
47 Post contains links and images RoyalOrchid773 : Could it be THAI's flight from ZRH to GVA? Or some Intra-Thailand flights on THAI like BKK-CNX or BKK-HKT... View Large View MediumPhoto © Aerovi
48 EZYAirbus : Hi Hoons90 the 744's involved at Duxford was ZS-SAK (saturday) and ZS-SAZ (sunday) of South African Airways, these took part in the Century of Flight
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