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A316 And A317  
User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10976 times:

I remember seeing in an Aviation Week Magazine a few years back that Airbus had plans to make an A316 and an A317. I had seen models of them.

Is Airbus still considering making them, or did they give up once the CRJ 900 and the ERJ 190s started coming out?

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User currently offlineGoAround From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 616 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10929 times:

Surely these a/c would be incredibly heavy?

Sounds interesting, I'd like to hear more though!

GoAround



GoAround
User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7411 posts, RR: 57
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 10880 times:

With the A318, Airbus went technically to the maximum of possibilities in shrinking the original A320 (look all the problems they had with the vertical stabilizer etc...).
With an even smaller aircraft, Airbus would attack the regional market and would have to re-design a complete new airplane. This would need a big investment, impossible to make now with the huge A380 project.


User currently onlineScorpio From Belgium, joined Oct 2001, 5028 posts, RR: 44
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 10825 times:

The planes were called AE316 and AE317. They were to be of an entirely new design, not another A318 shrink. The planes were planned to be designed in co-operation with the Chinese. Plans were dropped in favor of the A318.

User currently offlineTransSwede From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 1000 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 10643 times:

The A(E)316 and A(E)317 - if made years ago - would have been looked and been spec'd almost exactly like the Embraer 170 and 190.

User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11153 posts, RR: 59
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10505 times:




"Generosity is giving more than you can, and pride is taking less than you need." - Khalil Gibran
User currently offlineExpressjetphx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 10189 times:

The A318 is already very hard to turn a profit on because of its high expenses and very low capacity. An A316 or A317 would be so small that Airbus would have to totally redisgn the aircraft because it would be virtually impossible to break even.

User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 9926 times:

The AE31X was a totally redesigned plane.

Smaller fuse, optimized wing, etc.

N


User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9824 times:

Or how about the much awaited A307?



UAL747


User currently offlineBigphilnyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 4076 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9811 times:

Oops. Airbus is suing me. Their A313 landed on my arm and I squashed it. My bad.


Phil Derner Jr.
User currently offlineCanadianPylon From Canada, joined May 2003, 310 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9802 times:

Excellent Pic!!! I can see the slogan now....

"A307... Where every row is an exit row!"


CanadianPylon



Always looking for the longest route with the most transfers.
User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3389 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 9733 times:

"Airbus A307. Making the BAe146 look good."

CanadianNorth



What could possibly go wrong?
User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 650 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9385 times:

hummm...with that A307...the commercial selling point could be 10,000 lbs of thrust per passenger .... Big grin

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 9354 times:

"Welcome to the future: The A307, the world's most advanced waste of aluminum."

At least it could glide to an airport if it lost power. That wingspan has to be twice the length of the fuselage!



Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
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