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EasyJet Wants LHR Slots From Oneworld  
User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4118 posts, RR: 29
Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2755 times:

Hello all

I have just read the following article (sorry, only in German):

http://www.baz.ch/news/index.cfm?objectID=179546FB-F08F-4765-BE48517B7622FDFD

EasyJet complains that Swiss and BA are having all the slots between LHR and Switzerland and wants them to sell slots, not to EasyJet, but to other companies...

RJ100




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User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2740 times:

EasyJet, wake up, it's a tough biz world out there! Or did you ask anyone if they care about the fares you're offering?

User currently offlineTripple7 From Netherlands, joined Aug 1999, 539 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

These news releases are so obvious after a merger. Always the same with those LCC and their need for free publicity. If easyjet doesn't want the slots they should keep their mouth shut.

User currently offlineAirways From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2728 times:

Well then, how the situation between other Oneworld hubs? For example LHR-MAD, LHR-HEL etc...

Michael
http://airsider.net


User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2661 times:

Good work Easy! Free - and effective - publicity, acting on behalf of the consumer to draw attention to potental problems... unconventional forms of advertising need not be bad.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 2654 times:

Is EZY flying into LHR at all? Or did they just find out this morning that they could?

User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2635 times:

Unique - U2 do not fly into LHR and, in my opinion, they never will due to the high costs and also the seemingly inevitable delays.

Reread the opening post:

"EasyJet...wants them [BA and Swiss] to sell slots, not to EasyJet, but to other companies..."

In other words, to break this oligopoly and, perhaps, a form of cartel.

Easyjet does not compete directly on LHR-Swiss routes, but it is nevertheless an important player in services between London and ZRH and GVA.

In addition, the success of Easyjet (and other low-cost airlines, like FR) is based upon the unconventional advertisement of the firm by CEOs who like to be in the spotlight. Indeed, virtually everyone in the UK have heard of Stelios and MOL.



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineBoieng747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2631 times:

This is the usual easyjet bull shit to get free attention.

Though it is true that there will be a monopoly on GVA/ZRH-LHR, I wouldn't be surprised to see Bmi come into those routes, seing the yields are pretty high and the swiss market is missing to Bmi's network (that is without counting all the baby flights to Geneva...).

Tim


User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2622 times:

BMI chose to give up ZRH a few years ago - due to they used their LHR-slots for flights to MAN. Hard to believe that additional LHR-slots should be available for BMI to re-open ZRH routes...

User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2605 times:

"BMI chose to give up ZRH a few years ago - due to they used their LHR-slots for flights to MAN."

Yep!



"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2569 times:

A spokesman of EZY stated that EasyJet does not wish to fly into LHR but other carriers might hence OneWorld should give the slots to "other carriers" but not BA.

Leave these things to "other carriers"!

I think I'll refuse flying EZY in future...


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4118 posts, RR: 29
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2555 times:

Not to forget that EZY is under pressure now that Swiss offers low fares to London, but offering better service and flying to more convenient airports...


RJ100




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User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2544 times:

Well, that's what they had to expect! Agressive fare strategies require agressive answers...

User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2532 times:

easyJet have enquired before to get slots at LHR but decided against it after they were told they would not receive a 20 minute turn around like they usually get, the best they were offered was 60 minutes.

Glenn



http://www.glenneldridgeaviation.com
User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2516 times:

Glenn, that's fully understood in the flight operations aspect. Still they shouldn't yell at LX and BA now...

User currently offlineEZYAirbus From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 2460 posts, RR: 52
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2494 times:

Too right they shouldnt have a go at any other airline, they dont use the airport so they shouldnt stick there noses in. Would be different if they used the airport and wanted to expand and needed more slots.

Glenn



http://www.glenneldridgeaviation.com
User currently onlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19215 posts, RR: 52
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 2472 times:

lol. Aside from U2's publicity, if this is all successful, it would result in increased competition and thus increased choice and hopefully reduced price for the consumer. So U2 should be praised for taking the lead and not moaned at.


"Everyone writing for the Telegraph knows that the way to grab eyeballs is with Ryanair and/or sex."
User currently offlineRickB From United Kingdom, joined May 2003, 243 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2404 times:

Easyjet wanting a 20 minute turn around at LHR  Wink/being sarcastic Thats funny - it usually takes close to that to taxi to the gate once you've landed - what where they going to do - deboard the aircraft on the runway ??

RickB


User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2387 times:

Fair enough - U2 have done exactly the same already for the AZ/AF alliance - demanded slots be made available at ORY for other carriers (in this case, themselves) to offer ORY-LIN service. When the only 2 competing carriers on a route sign a cooperation agreement that includes the right to collude on setting fares, that market becomes effectively a monopoly. We have mechanisms to regulate monopolies, and these must be brought into play in this situation. If BD were already operating LHR-ZRH/GVA, this would not be a problem - competition on the route would still exist. But they don't. U2 have a fair point.


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1617 posts, RR: 6
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Does European legislation not mean that slots have to be bid for in an open market anyhow?

I thought the days of closed trading of slots at LHR were behind us.

Does any one know the law in this area?

Rich.


User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 31
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 2118 times:

RickB: Easyjet wanting a 20 minute turn around at LHR  Smile/happy/getting dizzy Thats funny - it usually takes close to that to taxi to the gate once you've landed - what where they going to do - deboard the aircraft on the runway ??

ROFLMAO!! Way to go!!!

That was a good one!!!

Gerardo



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