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CI MD-11 Crash Video Released.  
User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 20986 times:

CI 642 crashed at Hong Kong international airport on August 22nd 1999 during a Typhoon. The MD-11 in the colours of Mandarin Airlines was landing on RWY 25L when its right wing hit the runway causing it to explode and flip over.

(Two days later)

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Video can be found at http://www.scmp.com.hk but you need to be a member to get past the front page!.

Video was taken by a CX pilot trying out his new video camera, before today this video was kept by the Pilots union.

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User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20758 times:

As it is not free registration, can anyone provide a link, or make it avail for download

Jeremy


User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20651 times:

Hi Artsyman,

I wish I could have done that but I'm not sure how  Confused


User currently offlineBig777jet From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20612 times:

Why should I pay for subscriber? Forget it!

Big777jet



User currently offlineBobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20587 times:

Yes if you could, someone post a link to the video and get past the front page. Thanks



User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20502 times:

Big777jet,

I don't remember telling you to PAY!!. I'm just providing the link.

N754PR



User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20466 times:

@N754PR: That's not much use at all considering no one here is likely to have a subscription. Now on the other hand, if you would give us your details...




Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20422 times:

Whats the problem?

We are always given links to tiny little papers and news channels in the USA that you need to subsribe to. Now its a HONG KONG paper its a problem!. For the record the SCMP has already been voted the worlds best online newspaper.

Ever thought that another user will be able to READ my post view the video and save it for you guys to see??

OK, lets delete my post and you can all find the bloody video on your own.

Why do I bother.

P.S. Tehan, Whats your point regarding my details, do you have a problem?

[Edited 2003-09-29 03:18:34]

User currently offlineTrvlr From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 4430 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20374 times:

Who cares whether the paper's from HK or the USA? The point is, you have to pay. Nobody's going to do that just to see the video.

Aaron G.


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20338 times:

@N754PR: Well if you'd point me to posts where people provide links to subscription stories? Most of the time they require free registration. In any case, people should post a summary.

Don't take everything said so seriously.

BTW I never said I had a problem. I was just hoping for your SCMP subscription details...  Big grin



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineCaptaingomes From Canada, joined Feb 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 56
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20334 times:

Thanks for bringing this to our attention! I'm glad you posted this thread, let the children above complain to their mommies. At least now I know there is a video available, and if somebody is able to provide us with it, that's great! I think, give it time and it will be available for us to see.

Thanks again N754pr!



"it's kind of like an Airbus, it's an engineering marvel, but there's no sense of passion" -- J. Clarkson re: Coxster
User currently offlineCx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6588 posts, RR: 55
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20214 times:

Teahan,

Surely you of all people should not be advocating sharing passwords! You should know that if N754PR shares, then he will have his subscription cancelled immediately.
Just think of it as him letting you know this video exists and it is available if you want to pay for it.
Thanks N754pr!


User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5293 posts, RR: 61
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 20149 times:

@Cx_flyboy: I wasn't exactly being serious. In Reply #2 he makes it pretty clear he doesn't have a subscription anyway.


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineSuspen From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 156 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 19709 times:

Not sure who advocated sharing passwords but I've seen several people advocating copyright theft. :P


Tower: "Cessna xxxx, state your intentions", Cessna: "To become airline pilot"
User currently offlineSAS-A321 From Denmark, joined Mar 2002, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 19524 times:

Just take it easy, the video will most likely be available for free download soon on a FREE page!


It's Scandinavian
User currently offlineA340pilot From Canada, joined Sep 2003, 576 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19490 times:

If you I were to purchase the 10 news releses, how would i even be able to post them? I would purchase this, but i dont think it can be published to the forum anyway!

Best reguards,
a340pilot




Go! Canucks Go!
User currently offlineBobrayner From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 19375 times:

There's a short, and rather lo-fi, video here:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/425000/video/_428043_matt_frei_vi.ram



Cunning linguist
User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 19112 times:

Teahan,

I said I don't know how to copy it and post it. I have a password.

Bobrayner,

Thats not the video, the video I'm talking about SHOW'S THE CRASH. Its about 10 seconds in length.


User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 18977 times:

Thank you very much N754pr, it's nice that you gave us the heads up for this video. As a result, I now have the video, unfortunatly due to copyright reasons I cannot post it and I'm not going to risk uploading it. I'm sure it will pop up somewhere for free.

The video is horrific, an MD11 on approach in the typhoon, and then you see the right wing dipping and an explosion. It's amazing how there was only 3 fatalities in that crash.

Again, thank you N754pr.

Airbus_A340



People. They make an airline. www.cathaypacific.com
User currently offlineViper777 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 18973 times:

Call me weird here but why do you want to watch a video of a plane crashing?

I've sadly been an eyewitness to 3 during my life and don't particularly want to see any more or think they should be advertised like bits of entertainment.

Sorry guys but felt a bit strong about this.

Viper777


User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 18891 times:

Viper777,

Your point is understood, however If you don't like it then you don't need to look for it.



User currently offlineAirbus_A340 From Hong Kong, joined Mar 2000, 1560 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 18782 times:

That's true, it's big news here that the video has been released. Front page of the newspaper. It's the discretion of the viewer to see it or not.

Airbus_A340



People. They make an airline. www.cathaypacific.com
User currently offlineKaiTakFan From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1588 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 18141 times:

Thanks for letting us know the video is released now. I am very curious to see how the whole crash went about. I can imagine it is pretty horrific to watch! Thanks again for the heads up! I will be looking!

User currently offlineN754pr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 17595 times:

Have any of you found the video yet??

User currently offlineFlyer123 From Canada, joined Dec 2000, 36 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 17011 times:

Here is the link for the video.
http://streaming.scmp.com/aircrash/CAL_Plane_crash1f.avi


25 Post contains links AJ : http://streaming.scmp.com/aircrash/CAL_Plane_crash1f.avi That is unbelievable footage. Is it for real?
26 Post contains images RA-85154 : My god, that is really a horrific sight.......... ...but actually, watching the video I get the impression that the explosion is not caused by the rig
27 Aviatortj : I am with Martijn on this one. I looks like the wingtip stays up until after the explosion. A horrific sight indeed. God bless those on board. ~TJ
28 Flyer123 : Yeah.. this is indeed a horrific scene. I immediately deleted the clip after i watched it once. I hope this never happen again
29 Post contains images KateAV8 : N754pr - thank you for the post and the info. In the past couple of weeks I've been so surprised by the number of people who come to these boards and
30 JBirdAV8r : It's hard to tell from looking at the video but it does seem like the sink rate increased dramatically in the last few seconds, and it does appear to
31 RA-85154 : Hi, I was just browsing through Airdisaster.com (they say it was the wingtip touching the ground), but after watching the movie, I found the Aviation-
32 VirginFlyer : Its a pretty nasty video - I am surprised 312 of the 315 on board actually got out, given the way the aircraft ended up, and the weather... V/F[Edited
33 Cx flyboy : I've seen it before, but the link doesn't work.
34 ClipperNo1 : I#m suprised, that the explosion is very,very massive and almost goes off the split-second the plane touches down.
35 EGGD : Hmm, couldn't really see that much, only the actual explosion (which IMO wasn't that big, considering). Still, lucky that so many survived. Makes you
36 Matt777 : Amazing. Impresive to see how the wing gets iluminated by the fire.
37 TK : The low number of casualties was solely because of the exceptional response time of the airport fire contingent at CLK. According to various reports,
38 Post contains images MD11LuxuryLinr : Awful video. I can't understand why they were attempting to land in such horrible conditions. You can see that the plane is almost out of control (eve
39 N754pr : Why should he go around if everything is under control??. As for the video I'm glad its now been found so you can see what I was trying to tell you.
40 Gigneil : I'm amazed by how calm the onlookers are. "There's gonna be casualties" is a way better formed sentence than I'd be able to form. N
41 Post contains images MD11LuxuryLinr : "Why should he go around if everything is under control??. " Yep.. that was one of those controlled bounce and rolls. Sorry for being sarcastic but IM
42 Cx flyboy : Having strong winds and bumpy conditions alone are not enough to bypass an airport without giving it a try. If the weather is within aircraft limitati
43 Redngold : Pretty freaky. If the plane rolled over to the right after crashing, perhaps that helped put out the fire (as well as the heavy rain, mentioned in the
44 Britman : An interesting read by all of you who have viewed the video,it sounds pretty horrific and that gives me the reason to not watch it myself, i dont thin
45 Mr.BA : Is there anywhere I can download and read a full report of the accident?
46 Britman : i said in a previous post that i would,nt look at the video...well i could,nt resist it...It aint as bad as i thought.dont know if anyone noticed but
47 EGFF : "Go around for christ's sake! Unbelievable.." And then what ... ? Do it all over again? In a situation like this im sure the pilots had the passengers
48 Flykal : EGFF...remember that getting the plan down ASAP is not always in the passengers best interests. There are many times when a go-around and diversion is
49 Post contains images N754pr : The Captain was a contract pilot that worked for Dublin based PARC Aviation. Spell PARC backwards and you get CRAP As for the Sparks under the wing, I
50 EGGD : Yes, add to that the 'saving face' that some pilots in South East Asia have, I'm sure they were just trying to get it down and get out of the weather.
51 Post contains links Kempa : Mr. BA Would this report of the accident be enough or do you need something more detailed? http://aviation-safety.net/database/1999/990822-0.htm
52 Luisca : the link doesnt work for me, it gets stuck in connecting
53 Britman : N754pr Thanks for the "sparks" explanation.
54 VonRichtofen : According to the pic it was a Mandarin Airlines MD-11. Not a China Airlines plane. Or am I missing something here? Kris
55 N754pr : KateAV8, Thank you for your kind words. VonRichtofen, Mandarin and China Airlines are ONE. We have daily flights to Hong Kong each day by Mandarin and
56 Post contains images VonRichtofen : Thanks for clearing that up N754pr!
57 Yyz717 : According to the pic it was a Mandarin Airlines MD-11. Not a China Airlines plane. Or am I missing something here? Kris, Mandarin is/was a subsidiary
58 Polair : aviation-safety report explains alot: - "Extra fuel was carried, because the crew intended to continue to Taipei, depending on weather at Hong Kong on
59 JBirdAV8r : If it was me, I would floor it. Fuck it. If I feel uncomfortable on final - I DONT LAND. Polair, My sentiments exactly...but it wasn't that simple. Tr
60 Polair : JBirdAV8r, I dont think they applied full throttle, or otherwise report would mentioned it. They just tried to flare with auto throttle engaged set at
61 MD-90 : Unbelievable. It sure is a testament to how strongly MD always built their aircraft.
62 Red Panda : The plane came in more steadily than I imagined. It just did not look like a crash going to happen to me. I have not read the crash report, but it loo
63 N754pr : MD-90, There are some that say the MD-11 has various falts, for example the landing gear. I think its the landing gear (right main) that gave way on t
64 Osteogenesis : The angle of attack never really increases significantly. Even at the end when you can notice a big increase in vertical speed.
65 Post contains images AJ : It is quite uncanny the similarity between this crash and the crash of N611FE at Newark:
66 N754pr : Like I sad the same main gear was ripped off or broke off on landing.
67 Usairwys757 : Wow, that is a horrific video. Very frightinning to watch. That is terrible that happend. Thakns for the link.
68 767Lover : Britman, I can understand your sensitivity about watching a crash and feeling weird/bad watching others' misfortune. However, with a crash like this w
69 AA61hvy : My dad was at HKG the day after it happend.. He said it was quite chilling seeing it next to the taxiway.
70 Cx flyboy : My parents were on a flight from BKK that had to turn back after HKG airport was closed. Even more chilling, and my mum is a very nervous flyer!
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