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Airline Hubs That Are No More :(  
User currently offlineTommy767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4886 times:

What are some airline hubs that do not exist anymore?

AA: BNA, RDU

UAL: I hear CO / KMCO), USA - Florida">MCO and CLE?

DL: ?

USAIR: I hear CLE, but also Dayton and Indianapolis

CO: Stapleton

NW: DCA?

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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2307 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4851 times:

America West: Columbus

User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2613 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4806 times:

PSA and SAN!
Pan Am and Miami

I understand that both airlines are defunct, but I still miss them!



Life is better when you surf.
User currently offlineSccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5840 posts, RR: 26
Reply 3, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4781 times:

MCI- Eastern and Braniff (II).


...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17160 posts, RR: 50
Reply 4, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4796 times:

NWA-
BOS and DCA

CO-
Denver Stapleton, Washington Dulles, Greensboro

AA-
Raleigh, Nashville

DL-
LAX, PDX

UAL-
CLE, Orlando, and to a certain extent MIA and JFK because of the Latin America cut backs.

US Air/ways-
Cleveland, Indianapolis, Syracuse, Dayton, Kansas City, Newark, Orlando, LAX

America West-
Columbus




Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineN839MH From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4759 times:

DL: DFW, it's just a bunch of little RJ's....DFW won't last for DL


Solodude!
User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5527 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

Reno Air: RNO

AA basically sold SJC to Reno, then bought Reno to get it back.


User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4723 times:

NWA we can probably say about MEM since that seems to be going all RJ too.

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 17160 posts, RR: 50
Reply 8, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4722 times:

One more..

Delta-
Frankfurt



Eastern Air lines flt # 701, EWR-MCO Boeing 757
User currently offlineWorldperks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 4723 times:

The Dayton hub mentioned above was actually a Piedmont Airlines hub.

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Of course. Piedment merged with USAir to make US Airways. So the Dayton hub became redundant.



User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 4557 times:

Piedmont also had a hub at SYR.

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 11, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4506 times:

Piedmont also had a hub at SYR.

Another inherited hub, from Piedmont's purchase of Empire.



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User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4345 times:

Pride @ MSY

WPac @ COS

PanAm & TWA @ JFK

Continental @ LAX

Texas Int'l @ IAH

Braniff @ DFW


User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4322 times:

Piedmont also had a hub at BWI


God bless through Jesus, Jeff
User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4255 times:

I just flew to BWI and was shocked to see that USAirways had hardly any gates left...Piedmont used to have almost the whole airport! They had some commuter flights and lots of empty spaces....very sad. America West moved into one of their old gates.

Piedmont was a great airline...one of 2 (PSA) that US screwed over.


User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3377 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4180 times:

TW:
ATL
MCI
PIT

RC:
PHX

DL:
MEM

EA:
CLT
ATL
MCI
MIA

UR:
SYR
ROC

BN:
MCI
SFW




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User currently offlineCopaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4134 times:

Didnt NW have a hub in Montana like a long ass time ago? I think it was billings. Mesaba did just buy out Big Sky, so could you count BIL as a hub for NW???

User currently offlineFlyboyaz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4122 times:

I remember when TW had a hub in ATL...in the early 90's...probably right after EA went under.

User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3443 posts, RR: 16
Reply 18, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4091 times:

USAIRWAYS/METROJET: BWI

User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4573 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4083 times:

Zrs70--as much as we Rochesterians appreciate the compliment, ROC wasn't a hub for Empire. SYR was their hub, and the other Upstate cities were focus cities. Empire typically had 13-15 daily F-28's from Rochester, to places like SYR, BOS, LGA, EWR, JFK, and ALB. At its height, UR typically ran around 70-80 dailies from SYR, split between F-28's and Swearingen Metros.

Empire, and then Piedmont, was great for competition in the Northeast. Heaven knows USAir needed competition. As Flyboyaz noted, UR/ PI got screwed over by US, as did the cities that lost competition through that merger.

Several people here have argued in other threads that RDU, and maybe BNA, could have survived if AA had made them mostly-RJ hubs. But RJ's weren't widespread yet. And AA's pilots would have gone ballistic, and at that time gotten away with it, if AA had tried to save those hubs with RJ's.

Jim



Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
User currently offlineJeffrey1970 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 1340 posts, RR: 11
Reply 20, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 4023 times:

Did Northwest ever have a hub in Raleigh, NC? Because I seem to remember back in the early 90's I flew from DCA to Melboune, Florida on Northwest, and I am sure I changed planes in Raleigh.

God bless through Jesus,

Jeff



God bless through Jesus, Jeff
User currently offlineMIDEXJET From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 66 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3930 times:

NW @ mke is another one that is gone..

User currently offlineAir1727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3893 times:

The term "hub" is definately abused; a lot of these were only gateways and never hubs. Pan Am also had a hub in Houston (IAH). Republic's gateway in Phoenix was acquired from Hughes Airwest. Northwest's gateway in Milwaukee was certainly one folks forget, as well as Delta's Memphis hub. Continental's tenure at Washington Dulles and Denver Stapleton were also ones people forget about. Orlando was only a true hub to two carriers; Florida Express and Braniff II (which acquired Florida Express). Braniff II started with a hub in Dallas (DFW) and then moved operations to Kansas City.

Saint Louis had its fair share; Trans World, Ozark, Air 1, and was also a gateway for Eastern. Atlanta has been infested by Southern, Republic, Delta, Eastern, Trans World (gateway), and so on. So much depth to some airports.

Very cool thread!


User currently offlineUSAIRWAYS321 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1851 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3873 times:

Jeffrey1970: Northwest never had an RDU hub, but American did for a while around the time your flight was taken. Perhaps you are mistaken on the airline. US Airways (USAir at the time) would've been the only other airline from DCA-MLB with a North Carolina (Charlotte) connection.

Edit: typo

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[Edited 2003-09-29 21:29:49]

User currently offlineTommy767 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (11 years 9 months 1 week 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 3812 times:

Neat responses!

TWA at ATL? what were some of the gateways?

When did DL have a hub in MEM?

When did UA start and stop there "intense" MCO operations......

and there CLE ops.


25 Zrs70 : New York Air had a mini hub at RDU for a while as well.
26 Post contains links JohnJ : "When did DL have a hub in MEM?" They had a long-standing regional hub in Memphis all the way into the early 1980s. Remember, Chicago and Southern Air
27 CMB320 : Don't forget Continental's attempt at El Paso in the 80's.
28 ElectraBob : A couple of questions: Did Mohawk Airlines have a hub or hubs? If so, where? Did Delta briefly operate a hub in the northeast (perhaps Boston) after i
29 Air1727 : Delta did keep a lot of the flights Northeast had, but slowly disposed of several routes over time. Northwest also had a gateway in Boston for any yea
30 MAH4546 : Northwest also had a gateway in Boston for any years which was also not mentioned. It was mentioned in the fourth post.
31 BillElliott9 : NW @ TPA YX @ OMA (now will probably be a Skyway only city)
32 Bosugadl : When did NW have a hub at BOS? and where did they fly? I can only assume that NW had trans-atlantic flight to make it a hub at BOS
33 B4real : N839MH: DL is adding a 767-300 back to DFW later this year from ATL. A possible rebirth of the #4 hub in their network? The RJs are saving the airlin
34 CitationX : Does anyone remember Continental Lite's short-lived attempt to hub out of GSO? The late-Vanguard and the final incarnation of Braniff tried to hub out
35 Elwood64151 : Sccutler: Your forgot, MCI: Vanguard. Also, way back, TWA. CitationX: You beat me to it! Also, it was Western Pacific at COS, not Pacific Western. The
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