UN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4297 posts, RR: 4 Posted (12 years 4 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2911 times:
SkyTeam doesn't have a very strong presence in Asia. NW is really SkyTeam's gold in Asia. Do you agree?
KLM-More Catchment of Europe
CO-US-Trans-At markets pioneered.
Anyother roles of SKyTeam Carrier?
Killerbabe From Netherlands, joined Aug 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2613 times:
With the KLM move the presence of Sky Team in the pacific will increase.
KLM has a lot of flights into the region, as has KLM a number of strong partners: China Southern Airlines and Malaysia Airlines and in a minor degree Garuda Indonesia.
And their is NWA with a strong hub at Tokyo Narita and do not forget Korean Airlines.
WorldTraveler From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2508 times:
NW is clearly important from a US-Asia perspective and KE is making ICN work as a strong connecting hub for both US-Asia and Europe-Asia traffic; KL and AF both have significant presences in Asia. CO's S. Pacific presence is largely designed to carry local pax from Japan to island destinations so they will not likely share that revenue with anyone. What Skyteam needs is a carrier in east central (HKG, TPE) or southeast Asia (SIN, BKK, KUL). CI has the potential to help fill the hole but like KE they are working to restore their credibility on the world stage.
Skyteam's biggest need is probably more in S. America than Asia.
NWAA330 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 215 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (12 years 4 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2376 times:
Please ignore the "SA>" I cant seem to get rid of them.
Northwest Airlines will completely fill the void of US gateways-Asian gateways with its flights to Tokyo and onward to all of Asia's major cities. It has more presence in Asia than any other US carrier. This being said however SA)">NW and KE cannot by any means cover for SkyTeams lack of a SE Asian carrier. The answer there of course is to bring in either Garuda Indonesia or MH (or ideally both) but neither seems to be looking for that right now though both do currently codeshare with SA)">NW and KL and have for some time. Also compete with STAR and get China Southern or China Eastern in Skyteam. The advantage of SA)">CO that many fail to notice is its extensive central and south American network. SA)">CO and SA)">DL cover all SA)">NA to SA major routes and KLM flies to all gateways in SA from AMS, this alond with AeroMexico mostly eliminates the current void of a South American alliance partner. (although one wouldnt hurt) I fail to see what if any benefit SkyTeam gains from CSA being part of the alliance. Alitalia AF and soon to be member KLM certainly have enough European presence without CSA being involved. If SA)">NW and SA)">CO are to be added however there really doesnt seem much point in SA)">DL. SA)">CO covers all the same European cities as SA)">DL as well as those in South America. SA)">NW obviously takes care of Asia with its SA - Michigan">DTW WorldGateway and Tokyo Hub. 3 eastern US airlines just seem redundent to me. But SA)">CO and SA)">NW certainly add more than SA)">DL so their addition seems valid.
My Idea of what SkyTeam should Be:
SA)">CO-US-Europe/Central &South America
Garuda- SE Asia