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Air Canada-Non-stop Service From YYZ-DEL  
User currently offlineBoeingflying31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 165 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2793 times:

Today, I was looking at the Air Canada web site just for the sake of it and I saw that they are starting new non-stop service from YYZ-Delhi, India. How many miles is that? Wouldn't it almost strech the range of the aircraft they are operating?


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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 72
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2780 times:

7232 miles, and they are planning to operate A340-300s on that one...


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User currently offlineMyk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

would it be a nonstop flight ?

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2766 times:

... and it's planned as nonstop in both directions...


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User currently offlineBicoastal From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2749 times:

There has been a very long thread on/nearly on this subject in the past week.

User currently offlineBoeingflying31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

That's really long. What is the range on the A343?

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2710 times:

7300 miles according to the Airbus website, with 295 persons in "typical 3-class-layout"


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User currently offlineBoeingflying31 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2687 times:

Would that be a safety issue when it flies for 7,232 miles when the range of that aircraft is 7,300? What would it do if it needs to hold pattern due to weather issues? Sorry if this thread was already created Smile/happy/getting dizzy I didn't really notice it.
-BF31

User currently offlineAC_B777 From Canada, joined Aug 2000, 784 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2658 times:

Actually, I think this route is supposed to be a trans-polar route.
This makes it shorter in distance and also reduces fuel burn do to the colder temps over the north pole.
I remember reading that we would be one of the first airlines to fly trans-polar when the YYZ-DEL flights were introduced.

AC_B777


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User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2628 times:

I think there is a safety factor built into the listed range ... It can probably fly more than 7300 nm, but for safety reasons they cap it at 7300.


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2577 times:

Folks, please get your units right.

Published range for the A340 is 7300 NAUTICAL MILES

YYZ-DEL comes in at approx. 6350 NAUTICAL MILES leaving plenty of buffer

User currently offlineDynkrisolo From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 1834 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2563 times:

Note: 1 nautical mile = 1.151 miles

The still-air range of the 343 is 7,200-7,400 nautical miles which is roughly 8,300-8,500 miles, depending on the MTOW. The great-circle distance between YYZ and DEL is about 6,300 nm. Taking weather/wind into account, I think ther 343 should be adequate for the mission.

User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 72
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

Actually, the 7232 that I mentioned was nautical miles - it's what I get displayed if I ask our reservation system for the distance between YYZ and DEL - the TPM (Ticketed Point Mileage) is always displayed in NM, but I guess that maybe this is not the polar route...


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

TPM (Ticketed Point Mileage) is always displayed in NM

I have never seen TPM expressed in nautical miles, always statute miles.

User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2481 times:

Published range for the A340 is 7300 NAUTICAL MILES

YYZ-DEL comes in at approx. 6350 NAUTICAL MILES leaving plenty of buffer


The hot-and-high conditions of DEL might reduce the buffer considerably for the DEL-YYZ leg.



[Edited 2003-10-08 19:25:07]


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 72
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

Oops, I stand corrected - TPM is in Statue Miles - B747-437B, you're absolutely correct on that...


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2397 times:

The hot-and-high conditions of DEL might reduce the buffer considerably for the DEL-YYZ leg

DEL is at an elevation of 777 feet ASL and the flight has a schedule 100am departure. Neither HOT nor HIGH conditions are particularly applicable here.

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