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AF To Start A319 Long-Range & Winter News  
User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 57
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 5132 times:

Air France has confirmed the lease of two Airbus A319LR from ILFC. The aircraft will be delivered in spring 2004, for the next summer schedule.

The A319LR will be configured in a single 48 seats Business Class and will be operated by Air France, with AF Pilots and F/A.

Unlike LH and Privat'Air, Air France will first use these a/c to open new "Petroleum" destinations with a high density Business traffic such as :
BAKU (Azerbaïdjan), MALABO (Guinea), POINTE-NOIRE (Congo), ATYRAU (Kazakhstan). If this service is successfull, new destinations should be added.

Kuwait-City (KWI) and Teheran (THR) should be also re-opened soon, but it is not decided yet if these destinations will be operated with the A319LR or by a more "classical" A332 service.


A new destination in China, GUANGZHOU (Canton CAN ) will be served 5/weekly with an A340. AF will be the first and only European Airline to land in this south-Chinese city.

AF will increase its offer on the Central and South American market :

MEX Daily B744 ( + 1 daily 767 code share with Skyteam Partner AeroMexico)
GRU Daily B777
GIG Daily B777
HAV Daily B744
EZE Daily B777
SDQ 3/week. B742
PUJ 4/Week. B742
CCS 6/Week. A332
BOG 5/Week. A343
SXM Daily A343
PTP 14/week. B743
FDF 12/week. B743
CAY Daily B742

All flights listed above are nonstop.

SCL Daily 777 (1 stop EZE )


To Canada : YUL = 2/Daily (777 + A340, instead of 1 Daily last winter )
YYZ = Daily (A340 )



Increased capacity to JFK : 3/Daily (2 x 777 + 1 x 744, instead of 3 x 777 last winter)

EWR = Daily A340
ATL = 2/Daily (777 + A340) + 2/Daily by DELTA (777 + 767 )
LAX = 10/Week. B744
CVG = 5/Week. A340
PHL = 5/Week. A330
BOS = 12/Week. 777 + A340
ORD = Daily A340
IAD = 12/Week B777
IAH = Daily B777
SFO = Daily A340
MIA = Daily B744




See next Topic for African and Asian Network.


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User currently offlineMyk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 4988 times:

Hi FLYSCU,

some time ago, AF flew to pointe noir, I don't know if there are still flying there. I heard also that they want to use the planes for a weekly CDG - Hassi Messaoud flight.

But the infos that I got, refer to using those planes on routes that AF already desserve for the petroleum pax, as Luanda or Port HArcourt.



User currently offlineAirplanetire From United States of America, joined May 2001, 1809 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4868 times:

Those new potential destinations are pretty cool! It would be wonderful if Air France put just a few rows of economy in the very back so people like me could someday fly there! If they can fill the planes though in business, then there is really no point in doing that. It's just wishful thinking I guess...  Smile Thanks for sharing this information!

-Airplanetire


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 57
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4850 times:

AF did operate flights to Pointe-noire, some years ago. The flights was operated by an Air Charter A320 but it was a Charter agreement with Big Oil companies for a determined period.
LOS (Lagos) & PHC (Port-Harcourt) are important Petroleum destinations but they both have a "regular" traffic also : LOS is now served Daily nonstop from CDG with an A340 and PHC 2/Weekly nonstop with A332.
Additionnal flights with the A319LR could, however, be added later to PHC.

LAD (Luanda) needs a "normal" service, as there is quite a big traffic in Economy Class and First, along with "Petroleum Business". LAD is served only 1/Week by a B777. AF would like to add frequencies, but the Governement from Angola refuses any additionnal frequency to protect TAAG Angola Airlines interests.


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 4842 times:

Thanks a lot for this very interesting news! The A 319 service to the petroleum destinations is very interesting and a smart step in my opinion.

Patrick


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4733 times:

Very strong rumours of BA considering flights to Malabo too.

LAD also produces rather high cargo loads due to capital equipment for the oil industry-for an economy of its nature,trade accounts for a very high % of GDP relative to its peers.About $14BN a year or so.


User currently offlineMyk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4721 times:

But TAAG flies to paris on codeshare. BTW, they have a nice cs.

But Malabo, Hassi Messaoud, Baku, would be great destinations for AF and for....ELF LOL.

FLYSSC, are still working for AF ? Perhaps we meet on the Airport or one of my flights Big grin


User currently offlineFLYSSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7410 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4550 times:

TAAG is flying to CDG with a B743 but there is no more code share agreement between AF and TAAG.

User currently offlineMyk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 4538 times:

thanks for the update

User currently offlineStarFlyer From Germany, joined Sep 2002, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

Why do you need the LR for Baku and Tehran? At 2059nm repsectively 2267nm from CDG, this would well be within the range of the standard A319!

Anyways, good to see AF follow. We will see more and more of those Business only services in the future for sure!



Yours truly - StarFlyer
User currently offlineMarco From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 4169 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 4124 times:

777 + A340, instead of 1 Daily last winter

Last January I flew AF DXB-CDG-YUL.There were two AF flights to YUL. One was operated by the B767 and the other was operated by the B777, so the frequency hasn't changed, the aircraft have been upgraded.



Proud to be an Assyrian!
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 3989 times:

TAAG's flights into CDG actually go on to LIS as a positioning flight and vice versa!AF were 2 weekly into LAD last year or so;did the Angolan government strip 1 weekly flight off AF?

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