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What Is The Diff Between An MD-80 And A Super-80  
User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6516 times:

I have been wondering for a long time what the difference is between an MD-80 and what AA calls a Super 80? the safety cards even say Super-80. Is this just a gimmick or is there actually something that makes the American MD-80s signifigantly different from everyone elses? I noticed the ex-TWA MD-80s are still called MD-80s not Super 80s

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User currently offlineAIR757200 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6478 times:


We have super-charged engines.

No difference, just a name used.


User currently offlineN670UW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1606 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6468 times:

The MD-80 program was originally designated DC-9 Super 80 (DC-9-80). The name MD-80 took effect later.

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6427 times:

Actually, by the time AA began operating the type, they were being called MD-80s. What happened was that AA thought "Super 80" had a good ring for marketing purposes. Some ads included features about the "Super 80".

I mean, wouldn't you rather fly a "Super" aircraft?

This is what happens when high-level Marketing guys come up with ideas. They end up part of the promotion no matter how stupid the idea might be.

And I'm majoring in Marketing... (sigh...)



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User currently onlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8297 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 6330 times:

One uses Jet A, the other uses Super Jet A.


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User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6208 times:

Leave it up to marketing people.. I guess that comes from having all that extra time to party in college ( I am an accounting major)

User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 6191 times:

Nothing, AA decided to name the Super 80 when they still wrote on the noses(back in the good ol' days of 757 Luxury Liners and such...)


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User currently offlineIndianguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6126 times:

So the difference is just AA?! **Hic**!

Cheers to that!


User currently offlineFutureualpilot From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2608 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 6115 times:

haha, Im not sure of any other airlines that call thei planes Super 80s. Maybe the AA Super 80 has been informally adopted and used....lol


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User currently offlineDeltaffindfw From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1449 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6042 times:


And you can tell that Sabre and Travelocity are (were) related to AA. When I book a corporate trip on a DL MD-88, the itinerary always says "Super 80".


User currently offlineAlitalia744 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 4764 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 6039 times:

Alitalia has "Super 80" on their engines as well, but calls them "MD-80's" for fleet references.

It's interesting to note that the inflight announcement still says "Benvenuti abordo il Super 80 Alitalia"



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User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 5999 times:

Super 80 is on the nose of all the AA MD-80s except the ex-TWA ones.. They say MD-80, the safety cards say Super-80 and when you book a flight on one the travelocity thingy says Super-80

User currently offlineBluewave 707 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3152 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5856 times:

Just a case of marketing semantics ... MD-80, Super 80, or DC-9-80 ... it's all the same


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29840 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 5849 times:

It just depends on who was running the marketing department when the plane was built.


The Super 80 was the original Douglas sales pitch. MD-80 came about after the merger.



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User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5947 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5772 times:

Delta used to call their DC-8-63s "Super Sixties." Same idea. No one else called it that.


User currently offlineCanadianNorth From Canada, joined Aug 2002, 3395 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5752 times:

Calling an MD-80 a "Super 80" is basicly the same as calling a 777 the "Triple"

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User currently offlinePsa53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3095 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5744 times:

I was looking at some old PSA schedules,the oldest
I have dated is 12-17-80, does ID as DC-9 Super80.
But then in a 1985 schedule,it is refer to MD series.
PSA was, I believe, the first carrier to use the type
in the US. Swiss was the first overall.





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User currently offlinePsa53 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3095 posts, RR: 4
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

The two first airline users of the type:


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User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 5552 times:

When AA acquired Reno Air, The noses on the MD-90s said Super 90, But the SafetyCards were just Reno Air Style with American's name, and MD-90 across the top in Green Lettering.
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User currently offlineChristian From Sweden, joined Oct 1999, 348 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5405 times:

MD-80 has a "screwdriver" tail, and the DC-9-80 has a cone tail. And there's some changes in the avionics in the MD-80


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User currently offlineCkfred From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 5311 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5260 times:

Not all MD-80s have screwdriver tails. The original MD-80s have cone tails. The screwdriver tails are MD-83s. I think there are some other differences, like fuel capacity and such, but the tail cones are the only visible difference.

User currently offlineBR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5133 times:

The newer MD-82s have Screwdriver tails, Some MD-83s have Cone Tails (If a customer wanted the fleet to look like the 100s of MD-81s and 82s they had. But ALL MD-88s have Screwdriver Tails. And all 717s have Screwdriver tails. I remember hearing something like TWA wanted a Cone Tail for their 717, but Boeing refused to go through the costs of changing it around.

User currently offlineElwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 5129 times:

L-188:

The MD-80/Super 80 project was started long after the merger. The name was changed during production and A simply chose not to adopt it.

The "screwdriver tail", or the Beaver Tail as MDD called it, was adopted in 1986 for all variants of the MD-80 except the MD-81, of which only a few more were built. Many of the older MD-80s have been refitted with this tail cone type, but most still use the original cone.

MD-80, Super 80, and DC-9-80, it's all the same.



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