IndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1831 times:
BOI-BWI being the most popular rute via connections, geez...
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Maybe that could be an incentive for WN to start a BOI-BWI.
There's an average of 47 passengers per day, per direction. Maybe we should write DL and let them know this secret -- maybe they'll fly a B764 between these two cities daily! Or better yet, maybe we should let UA know & see if they'll put a B777 or B744!!!!!!
SunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1751 times:
LUVBOI- Do know that Boise has not gone unoticed by an east coast carrier who will be doing expansion later next year. In fact many of the North South routes out of BOI were studied very heavily by this carrier and the code name of their target is "ArcticFire". I'm sure you can figure that one out, and as the aircraft start arriving, you will see. This too is true of SLC where the name of the operation is "TriangleChop".
SunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1723 times:
Leneld, the City of Portland has made a very very attractive offer to
a carrier to make a very large presence there. ONly problem is PDX is not
geographically suited for a good hub & spoke system, and is pretty much reliant on O & D traffic to be successful. As for the several carriers looking at West Coast Expansion, SEA is pretty well set with AS for North-South hub traffic feed, and their EastCoast service is pretty much O & D, or regional feed from Wash or Oregon. So you wont see AirTran or JetBlue make any huge inroads in SEA. B6 has several west coast inland cities they are looking at for "focus" cities, as does AirTran. B6 is close to being maxed out at LGB. Furthermore LGB does not attract a large amount of "business" traffic and is more of a leisure & indicental (meaning people travel from there only to get the lower fare) market. Because of its limitations it will never make a large hub operation at LGB, it will always be a focus city for points East. Also look for B6 to find another city in the LA area to be more of a hub city for North South Traffic. (OAK-LGB will become a thing of the past & LGB will see these flights replaced with traffic going farther East.) With this any carrier looking for feed in a focus or small hub & spoke operation will definitely be looking at any inland Western City that does not charge like Denver to have a presence, and that can generate enough traffic on its own to reach 45% load factor, with the other capacity being fed by the spokes. Look to see one or both of these carriers create a western focus city with a mini hub, and then have a lot of point to point service very similar to What southwest currently offers.
SunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1654 times:
FATflyer, as a matter of fact I did participate in some additional meetings, in gathering data for about 13 Western Airports. You might also note that in my post I predicted that DL would retrench in Boi. While that hasn't yet happened, it did in GEG, BIL, BZN, PSC, MSO & FCA. Look for Boi to be a total DL CXN city within the next 6 months.
FATFlyer From United States of America, joined May 2001, 5667 posts, RR: 17 Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 1602 times:
I just notice things like that with a few of mid-sized airports that I like to follow.
I know that people in Boise may not like the idea of mainline changing to RJs but it wouldn't be too much of a surprise with SLC changing. I know that pax counts at BOI are still dropping slightly, down what about 9 or 10% over the last few years and back to 1998 levels. Haven't heard how yields have been.
Now if we could just get people to notice that FAT's counts have continued to increase (up 4% this year) we might see more service here.
"Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness." - Mark Twain
IloveBOI From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 1498 times:
I was very interested in that post you just made and I was wondering if anyone could figure out this "ArcticFire". You say that they have been studying routes out of Boise? I'd love to know which airline it is. I wonder if it is big or small. Small, most likely.
25 SunValley: LUVBOI, My colleagues and I who are in the industry and have worked for a number of carriers each, always find strategy code names for marketing, test
26 Copaair737: I do not think that DL mainline is pulling out of BIL yet. I was on the BIL website, and instead of 1 MD90 flight and 6 express flights, there were 2
27 SunValley: As of Jan 7, 2004 DL mainline will no longer be present in any Montana City, all flights will be operated by SkyWest, Comair or ASA
28 IloveBOI: Interesting about DL Mainline...hope they don't pull out of Boise I BOI
29 Geg2rap: SunValley DL will still fly to Bozeman 2x738 per day but they will be the only one and that might end after ski season
30 SuperDash: Well that's interesting, but it shows how fast the traffic numbers fall off. If you figure that a 70 seat plane flying one round trip produces just ov
31 IloveBOI: lol, SuperDash, ArcticFire does sound like a disaster name. I BOI