Kevin752 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 735 posts, RR: 4 Posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4150 times:
I was wondering if AA will have service to Auckland, Sydney, Melbone, Nadi and some other south pacific cities. At this time AA has code share with QF now. AA has 777-200ER's with pacific Config so they have the equip. All comments are welcome.
IndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4054 times:
UA flies their B777's to Auckland, so why couldn't AA fly theirs to Sydney? It's within the range of the 772ER.
UA no longer flies to AKL. Giving credit to where credit's due, B747-437B once explained this in reference to UA flying LAX-SYD w/B777:
UA's 772 have the RANGE to reach Australia, but alas not the ABILITY. There is no ETOPS 180 available for South Pacific operations yet. LAX- AKL squeaked in using a less efficient ETOPS 138 routing, but to use the ETOPS 138 path for SYD ops would make the route too long.
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[LAX-SYD may be a similar distance as CO's EWR-HKG flight] but you are facing a greater likelihood of strong headwinds over the Pacific, whereas on the polar route its a much easier ride. Even the GE90 struggles to make it EWR-HKG with full payload when conditions aren't optimal.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 8148 posts, RR: 4
Reply 7, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3811 times:
I highly doubt that AA will fly to southern Pacific destinations. The reason is simple: using a OneWorld codeshare, AA designates the SYD-LAX flights by QF as codeshare flights. It's small wonder why QF plans to fly the A380-800 on the SYD-LAX route as early as possible.
Airbear From Australia, joined May 2001, 648 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (11 years 7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3726 times:
Sorry, but ho-hum! AA has tried the Australian market, i.e. SYD, TWICE before. In the '70's for a short time - lasted less than 12 months - with B707's via NAN & HNL, and then once again in the early '90's - likewise for 12 months at the most - w. the DC-10. They gave up last time, when it became clear that their shiny new (at the time) MD-11's couldn't do the job non-stop, as they had expected.
Goodness knows that QF badly needs/deserves some real competition on the LAX routes, but it won't come from AA or, I doubt from any US airline. It may eventually come in the form of SQ or CX, if ever the Australian Government stops doing (in bi-lateral "open skys" negotiations...) whatever QF tells it to do!!
Copaair737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3558 times:
CX will never compete head to head with QF on the Aussie-USA route, they are partners. The airlines I could see really doing it are SQ, and maybe some SkyTeam affiliated airline, or codeshare partner, like MH.
ZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5414 posts, RR: 11
Reply 14, posted (11 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 3237 times:
I remember seeing those AA DC10's at AA), New Zealand">AKL in the early 1990's as a 9 or 10 year old, brings back memories, I saw a photo recently with AA and CP DC10's JL, UA and CO 747 classics ah the memories. Sadly I doubt that AA will return they codeshare with QF on LAX-AA), New Zealand">AKL and SYD and BNE-AA), New Zealand">AKL. UA might return to AA), New Zealand">AKL someday though.