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Former DL Oddball Routes  
User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

I know, the weekly oddball route topic, but i am really interested in this.


DL used to fly
MIA-FLL at like 1am and during the day FLL-PBI. I know they have done 767-300ers JFK-BOS in the past as well.
I am interested in why they did MIA-FLL, FLL-PBI and if there were other routes like that that they flew? Also, how were the loads?

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User currently offlineGnomon From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2910 times:

They flew FLL-NAS back around '98 using M88s. I think the aircraft continued to one of the NYC-area airports. Don't know how long the route was operated, however.

User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2888 times:

i happen to know the FLL-NAS flight... flt 1116 from DFW-FLL-NAS.... origionally, it started outside of Dallas, but in Texas before arriving at DFW. That is unerstandable since you can't just DRIVE to NAS!

User currently offlineAir1727 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2886 times:

Back in the 80s and early 90s, short flights such at MIA-FLL and PBI-FLL were quite common among several carriers. They were conducted as means of aircraft placement and utilization under revenue operation. Most of the flights were direct flights such as PBI-FLL-ATL which I flew on several times (DC-8-71). Trans World also flew the JFK-BOS route using L-1011s as well as Pan Am with 747s (which is the shortest revenue 747 flight I know of except maybe the United 747 flight SAN-LAX-HNL). Trans World and Delta flew LAX-SAN using L-1011s and 767s as well. The list goes on...

User currently offlineChrisNH From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 4110 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2836 times:

Portland (Maine) to Boston on 757s is one such route (no airlines even fly between these cities any more, I don't think). Boston-Hartford on L-1011s is another candidate. A third candidate might be Boston-Montreal on L-1011s and 767-300s...another route long since downgraded to RJs.

Chris in NH


User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2794 times:

AE flew MIA PBI on a SAAB in the early 90's. That sucker went full. I know, I got bumped a few times STBY. I think it would be packed now, no one wants to sit in traffic on I95 to MIA airport to go to the west coast or down south.

User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32736 posts, RR: 72
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2779 times:

AE flew MIA PBI on a SAAB in the early 90's.

IIRC, they flew that route right up to the end of Saab service in the Miami area. If they were still flying Saabs, they would probably still be flying it.



a.
User currently offlineSsides From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4059 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 2662 times:

I posted this in a new topic as well, but I thought it might get more attention here:

Does anyone remember or know if DL (Connection) offered service between AMA and LBB back in the day? I am almost positive that I remember seeing a 2x or 3x daily ASA flight on an EMB-120 between these two cities. Same goes for AUS-SAT, but I find the LBB-AMA route more interesting.

If anyone knows anything about this route, please let me know!



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User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2637 posts, RR: 5
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2636 times:

ChrisNH says: Portland (Maine) to Boston on 757s is one such route (no airlines even fly between these cities any more

DL offers Delta Connection on Comair and Atlantic Coast (Canadair RJ and FroJos, respectively) for this route. 4x daily.



B4REAL, spelled like it sounds
User currently offlineMats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 629 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2638 times:

The 767-300's from Boston to Montréal were baffling.

For a while, Delta had some short East Coast flights that were extensions of Transatlantic flights.

I loved the L15 from JFK to Dulles. It continued on to Frankfurt. I miss that flight; I miss the L15. It was such a short hop, but it was great.

They also used to have a 767-300 between Hartford and JFK, which continued on to Paris.

There was a 763 from JFK to Philadelphia for a while too.

And the odd London/Gatwick-Detroit-Cleveland flight. That never made any sense to me. Apparently it didn't make sense to Delta either. Flying an L15 or an A310 from Detroit to Cleveland was just too strange.


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2637 posts, RR: 5
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2636 times:

ChrisNH says: Portland (Maine) to Boston on 757s is one such route (no airlines even fly between these cities any more

DL offers Delta Connection on Comair and Atlantic Coast (Canadair RJ and FroJos, respectively) for this route. 4x daily.

I remember a goofy DL route, more continuing service, but ROC-SYR (2x daily) on 727 in 1999; SDF-LEX on MD-88 and SDF-BNA (2x daily), PHL-JFK on a B763 (continuing service of a int'l flight), DL Connection PIT-BUF in 1999 - really weird.



B4REAL, spelled like it sounds
User currently offlineNonrevman From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 1297 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 2614 times:

Both SAT-AUS and AMA-LBB did once exist in the mainline Delta capacity. Some others:

OAK-RNO (one way). This was part of a red eye OAK-RNO-DFW
PHX-LAS (one way). 2 dailies at one point. They were flown with 767's
SAN-PHX
FCA-MSO Done one way as recently as summer.

ANC-HNL Probably inherited from Western
ANC-HKG This was back in the day of Kai Tak.



User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 2515 times:

I remember TWA did JFK BOS on the L1011, I worked that a few times.. was always kind of odd to me...

User currently offlineVectorVictor From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2395 times:

Up until about four years ago, Delta continued to operate a very late evening nonstop Houston-San Antonio. It did not operate in the oposite direction.

It's worth noting that the Austin-San Antonio segment was part of routings that operated AUS-SAT-SLC or vice versa.


User currently offlineLindy field From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 3118 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2388 times:
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Better than LAX-SAN was the SNA-SAN-ATL that Delta used to fly with a 757.

User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3412 posts, RR: 16
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2374 times:

PVD-ALB continuing to CVG and BGR-PVD continuing to ATL on 72S's and M88's in the 90's...

User currently offlinePROSA From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5644 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2370 times:

Boston-Hartford on L-1011s is another candidate.

The route actually was BDA-BOS-BDL.



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User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3165 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2358 times:

Most of these odd-ball routes are tag on flights of yesteryear. And remember, all these flights from BOS are from when BOS was a mini hub for DL, with mainline flights all over the NE.

Examples:

BGR-PVD (and onto CVG)
PWM-ALB (and onto ATL)
DL / KBDL), USA - Connecticut">BDL-BOS (and onto BDA)
LEX-SDF (and onto DFW)
SDF-BNA (and onto ATL)
GTF-HEL (and onto SLC)



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User currently offlineFlairport From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

GTF-HEL (and onto SLC)

wow! The flight went from Great Falls to Helskini to Salt Lake City? You meant Helena, right?


User currently offlineAATripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2298 times:

DL operated ELP-ABQ-SLC for years with a 727. It was inherited from Western and discontinued only a few years ago.

AATripleseven


User currently offlineAATripleseven From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 324 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 2291 times:

Forgot to mention they also operated DFW-ELP-TUS with an MD88 as well.

AATripleseven


User currently offlineJetdeltamsy From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 2987 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2213 times:

there was msy-mlu (monroe, la), msy-shv, msy-btr, psp-san, abq-elp

there have been hundreds of these oddball routes



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User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3165 posts, RR: 9
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2200 times:

Flairport:

I stand corrected!



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User currently offlineBoingGoingGone From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2156 times:

The LAX-SAN route on DL was actually:

SAN-LAX-HNL

HNL-LAX-SAN


User currently offlineStock1985 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 83 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 2134 times:

The classic ATL-TUL-OKC-SLC which was operated on a 72S for years, now done by a 738 looks to finally discontinued in the new schedule for February. I cannot believe that it is finally gone.

25 Bosugadl : I remember that PVD-BGR route...Not only did it seem strange, but the thing left around 1030-11pm....It was maybe 5-6 years ago and I had come in on a
26 Zrs70 : Bosugadl: I once flew CVG-PVD-BGR. I did that routing specifically to take the PVD-BGR flight. It was a continuation from ATL. I was one of maybee 40
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