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Perth To London Non-stop?  
User currently offlineMotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3205 posts, RR: 9
Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

Well what do you reckon? If QF bought A340-530's, there'd be a case for it, as well as Sydney-Auckland-New York, even Sydney-New York direct. And Sydney-Perth-London is getting more appealing for the increasingly xenophobic Australian business traveler.


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3305 times:

Only if the offered a sort premium economy/business product a la SQ - PER-LHR has got to be about 20 hours flying time - too long to sit in one of QF's little Economy coffins. You'd have dozens of people keeling over from DVT in the baggage claim at LHR.

User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5294 posts, RR: 61
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3269 times:

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http://gc.kls2.com/cgi-bin/gc?PATH=PER-LHR%2CSIN-LAX%2CSIN-JFK&RANGE=&PATH-COLOR=&PATH-UNITS=mi&SPEED-GROUND=&SPEED-UNITS=kts&RANGE-STYLE=best&RANGE-COLOR=&MAP-STYLE
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PER LHR 9009 mi
SIN LAX 8770 mi
SIN JFK 9537 mi

Range would obviously not be a problem since it is quite a bit shorter than SIA's soon to be launched SIN-JFK.

But is there a demand?

Jeremiah



Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineMotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3205 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 3235 times:

I just hope that this is read by a QF staffer

"QF's little Economy coffins" is a gem that execs should take note of.

And yes, once again SQ leads the charge - exec economy for longhaul.



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User currently offlineBill From Switzerland, joined Jun 1999, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

Jeremiah,

You are right, the distance between PER-LHR would be shorter than SIN-JFK. But it doesn't mean the flight would be possible.

The route SIN-JFK would be a "Polar Route" and when you fly close to the Pole winds are quiet low and disorganized.
The route PER-LHR would not be a "Polar Route" and winds could be a problem in this case.

Bill

[Edited 2003-10-17 00:48:56]

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

Would probably prompt BA to do so with a 772LR as well, good stuff!

Hmm, come to think of it, QF may opt for the 777NG (they did help design the bird to some of the specifications they'd need) instead of A345 as well


User currently offlineRichard28 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 1619 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 2739 times:

This could also be a possible option for VS.

With SQ blocking Changi (to protect their market), and VS's tie in with Malaysia at KUL, and with 5th freedom rights still trying to be negotiated with Hong Kong, maybe a direct route via Perth would fit in as the answer for their route to Oz?

A345's would also compliment the A346 fleet quite nicely.

Only problem I could foresee is VS not adopting a config like that of SQ - preferring a higher density outfit in Y class - a la BA/QF.

Because of this I'm sure VS would prefer a 747/A380 route with a traditional kangaroo stop over.

Rich.


User currently offlineAviasian From Singapore, joined Jan 2001, 1486 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 2558 times:

Richard28: With SQ blocking Changi (to protect their market), and VS's tie in with Malaysia at KUL, and with 5th freedom rights still trying to be negotiated with Hong Kong, maybe a direct route via Perth would fit in as the answer for their route to Oz?

How has SQ blocked Changi to protect its market? Qantas has as many flights through Changi as it could possibly want . . . including basing planes at Changi for regional flights (which it did not exercise) . . . QF has been utilising much of its rights through Singapore since the days of the Empire flying boats.

Qantas currently picks up a tremendous number of London-bound passengers in Singapore . . . does Perth promise the same catchment and yield? At the end of the day, airlines are driven by dollars and sense (commercial sense) . . . something that Richard28 in his Finance capacity should comprehend far better than an outsider like me.

KC Sim
Bangkok


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