Iloveek From Netherlands, joined May 2002, 107 posts, RR: 0 Posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3402 times:
Just found an interesting article on www.airlinequality.com about SIA's 345..A summary:
-SQ 345 will be introduced february 2004 on the SIN-LAX route and this will be actually the longest offered non-stop commercial service in the world(SIN-LAX will take 16 hours and LAX-SIN will take 18.5 hours)
-In July 2004 SIN-NYC the next route operated by SQ 345, will begin.
-Especially to ensure comfort and service on this flight, the 345 will feature just 181 seats, in a two class configuration(raffles class and the new executive economy class)
-About the new Executive Economy Class:
1. a 2-3-2 configuration offering 117 seats
2. seat pitch is 37", seat-back incline 8", seat width 20",a leather adjustable headrest, an innovative leg rest and foot rest, and a 9" personal video monitor for in-flight entertainment.
-About the Raffles Class:
1. a 2-2-2 configuration offering 64 seats
2. seats will be ofcourse the new SpaceBeds
-Another features:
1. passenger corners in both Raffles and E-E class.
2. Executive Economy Class will offer an area where customers can help themselves to an array of snacks and drinks.
3. latest AVOD Matsushita system
Really looks SIA is to set again a new standard in the world of civil aviation!
Cessna172RG From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 744 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 3340 times:
Does this mean that their flights 11 and 12 will be no more? No more LAX-NRT-Singapore or is this just an addition that's gonna be great? Just wondering...
Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 3161 times:
The econmy product looks exactly like the economy plus product I saw on SAS 340-300 CPH-NAR. So much for `new`. Is it also the same Recaro seat ?
The fact that there is no cattle class left is new.(but probably neccesary, you can´t expect anybody to sit in a cramped seat for 16-17 hours..DVT etc..)
Iloveek From Netherlands, joined May 2002, 107 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2793 times:
Ofcourse there are much airlines which provides Economy Extra or whatever..United, SAS, BA, VS, Eva air etc..but SIA is the first to operate only E-E and C-class, with no Y class. Just 181 seats in a 345 must be quite spacious and ofcourse that's necessary for such long flights
777MAS From Malaysia, joined Sep 2003, 196 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2556 times:
Do you think anyone would fly 18 hours in a standard Y seat?
I would, if it was much cheaper than the Executive Economy fare! All the better if it's a 777, with IFE, and top-rated cabin service like MH, CX, SQ.....
SQ's concept is nothing new, after all, VS had their Premium Economy. What's new about it, though, is that there's more space sideways in addition to legroom. But then, come to think of it, that may not be a new idea altogether - I recently read somewhere on the Forum where someone said in the early 70s, when fuel was much cheaper, some L1011s had 2-4-2 seating instead of 2-5-2.
Looks like SQ is targetting the upper end of the market as usual, and this time, it's the upper segment of Economy Class. But they'll have to charge a whole lot more than usual for obvious reasons.
It'll be 2 firsts for them - first Airbus with 2-3-2, and 1st non-stop from Southeast Asia to the West Coast. That'll give them a lot of publicity capital. in that sense, they'll be setting a new standard, but not everyone should follow suit: remember, it's about which segment of the market you're targetting.
That also makes me wonder: could the Exec. Econ. Class end up attracting those who would otherwise have gone for Business Class?
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 2468 times:
Do you think anyone would fly 18 hours in a standard Y seat?
Yeah. For a cheap fare, folks would travel standing up in the lavatory if they had to. They would of course complain about the lack of PTVs, smiling FAs, etc etc etc. But they'd fly all the same.
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2290 times:
As far as I'm concerned, the seat width of the SPACEBED is actually 22" because it is 22" (0.5" wider than Hong Kong's de facto flag carrier's New Business Class)
StarG From Indonesia, joined Mar 2003, 197 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2244 times:
Would it be possible that the SpaceBeds on A345 is longer but narrower?
After all, the configuration on the A345 is 2-2-2 as with the B772ER, while the cabin of the B772ER is much wider.
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13711 posts, RR: 21 Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 2226 times:
Could be, I've given The Airline feedback for my enquiry and the Customer Relations department will revert to me. It shouldn't be narrower as when it's a bed it's 27" wide anyway like on the MEGATOP and JUBILEE ER
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