STT757 From United States, joined Mar 2000, 12116 posts, RR: 54 Posted (6 years 1 month 2 weeks ago) and read 2507 times:
CO will take delivery of 5 more 757-300s (soon), and the remaining order of 6 will be converted to 737-800 orders.
CO has 4 757-300s, so 9 757-300s with 6 more 737-800 added to the current back log of CO 737-800 orders which probably is in the 35-40 airframes neighborhood.
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 3766 posts, RR: 40 Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2404 times:
A wise decision on the part of CO as the 753s will come in handy with the extra capacity on the key IAH-Flordia/California, EWR-Flordia/Vegas/California routes.
Do COs B 753s fly IAH-HNL nonstop or via some other city?
The B 738s will be useful for extra long range transcontinental flights as well as being able to use during the daily rush hour on the key EWR-BOS/IAD/BWI/PHL/ORD routes early in the morning and in the evenings.
Its also wiser to replace B 753s by B 738 orders as if there is a fall in demand, the 738 can easily fill sometimes for a route operated by B 752 or 753 as it has the range and sizeable capacity to if demand levels fall sharply.
Wgw2707 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 1197 posts, RR: 52 Reply 2, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2348 times:
Those CO 757-300s are going to have a short service life I'll bet, but when CO parks them and puts them up for sale, they are going to go fast. The 753's operating economics are fantastic and any charter airline or LCC would jump at the chance to buy 9 757-300s.
CALMSP From United States, joined Aug 2003, 3223 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2332 times:
we dont fly 800s b/t EWR & IAD/BWI/PHL/ORD
Only RJ's to IAD/BWI/PHL,
All the ORD flts are 735's which just go back and forth b/t EWR & ORD/MDW/ATL/DFW since they arrive in concourse A.
okay, I'm waiting for the rich to spread the wealth around to me. Please mail your checks to my house.
HlywdCatft From United States, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 11 Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2271 times:
I'm kind of surprised they weren't converted to 737-900s instead which would even be closer. Doesn't the 737-900 have the same operating costs as the 800 but the extra seats make it more profitable?
If Continental were to sell their remaining 4 753s, or the other 5, I would say Northwest maybe would gobble them up quick, but then I forgot NW uses different engines on theirs, but maybe they would sell them to Delta to put on Song's more dense routes like JFK-MCO or JFK-FLL during winter months.
STT757 From United States, joined Mar 2000, 12116 posts, RR: 54 Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 2143 times:
Who said anything about CO selling their 757-300s, they are perfectly compatible with their current 757-200 fleet. CO ordered the 757-300 to compete against low cost carriers like Jet Blue on NYC-Florida, NYC-Las Vegas routes because of it's very low CASMs.
"'Brown Sugar' could save the world..." Eddie Vedder 10/14/97 Oakland, California
MSYtristar From United States, joined Aug 2005, 5430 posts, RR: 55 Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1942 times:
This decision should mean that some seasonal 753 destinations (FLL, MSY, DEN, LAS) could/should see year-round daily 753 service, as the demand to these cities is pretty much constant year-round.
Steve in MSY
UA's 744 Y-class seat is more comfortable than DL's new 77L Y-class seat.
JBLUA320 From United States, joined May 2002, 3042 posts, RR: 24 Reply 11, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1795 times:
This is a little off topic..
But when I flew on Continental's 757-300s, I found that on both aircraft, the cabins were very dry- the flight crew continually had to pass through with glasses of water so people wouldnt have trouble swallowing. The two airplanes were #2 and #3 in the 757-300 fleet.
BR715-A1-30 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 15, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1549 times:
That's good to hear. I heard from that CO was giving their 757-300s back for 737-900s. I heard they were displeased with them. I am glad that that rumor is unfounded.
IndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1455 times:
Northwest ordered 16 753s, 15 delivered & 1 on backlog. A sidenote...NW has 56 752s, none on order. Regards.
Actually, NW converted 20 B752 into B753 - then converted 4 B753 into B752 . NW hasn't ordered a B752 since the late 1980s - the order was continually deferred.
Worldperks From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 934 times:
CO also has both a 753 and a 739 flying BWI-CLE-LAS / LAS-CLE-BWI. Most of the BWI-CLE traffic is business traffic and most of the CLE-LAS traffic is leisure traffic. So, densities seem the same for each segment even though few seem to actually fly BWI-LAS.
Ba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 6167 posts, RR: 52 Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 867 times:
I don't see such a small fleet lasting long at CO,thought they may be around for a while due to lack of interest.Condor/Thomas Cook tried to dispose of the entire 753 fleet,however they had no interest,so the 752 fleet will be diposed of.
Just a note,whilst in ORD on wednesday a CO 739 showed up,my first one!
Motech722 From United States, joined Aug 2003, 190 posts, RR: 4 Reply 23, posted (6 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 746 times:
I agree with STT757, the -300 complements the -200 and will most probably remain in the fleet for a good number of years down the road. Just because CO will only have 9 of the -300 does not make it obsolete in the fleet, there are always niche routes that can make it work.
It was a good move by Bethune to change his order if the forecasts at CO see more of a market for smaller aircraft (B737-800). I believe someone asked why CO didn't option the B737-900 instead of the -800? The B753 holds about 243 people, the B739 holds 177, and the B738 only holds 162 (all according to http://www.boeing.com in 2-class layout). The B738 fits in nicely to CO's fleet as they already operate 67 whereas the B739 is bu a small portion of the NG fleet in CO (http://www.aviation-industry.com/atem/newpages/current_afmpdfs/AF261280m.pdf)
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