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Boeing To End Production Of 757 In Late 2004  
User currently offlineAlexchao From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 688 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9744 times:

Boeing to Complete Production of 757

CHICAGO, Oct. 16 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- The Boeing Company (NYSE: BA - News) announced today that it has decided to complete production of the 757 jetliner in late 2004.
"This decision reflects the market reality for the 757 as well as the growth in range and seating capacity of our market-leading Next-Generation 737 family," said Boeing Commercial Airplanes President and Chief Executive Officer Alan Mulally. "Over the long term, the increased capabilities of our newest 737s and the exciting potential of the 7E7 will fulfill the market served by the 757."

Consistent with prior disclosed estimates, Boeing will recognize a pre-tax charge in the third quarter of $184 million, or 14 cents per share, principally related to termination and shutdown costs at Boeing Commercial Airplanes. Most of the cash expenditures related to the charge will occur through 2005.

Over the past two decades, more than 1,000 757s have been delivered to 55 customers around the world. The worldwide fleet of 757s will continue to benefit from superior fleet support provided by Boeing Commercial Airplanes.

"Thousands of people around the world are to be thanked for making the 757 a success story in aviation over the past 20 years. It will continue to provide great value to the world's passenger airlines and cargo operators in service for many years to come," Mulally said.

The Boeing Company will release its third quarter results October 29th.

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URL: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031016/cgth061_1.html

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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 17
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9493 times:

How many 757-200 have been built and how many are on order? -200 only.

I'm wondering if is going to beat the 1260 727-200 built.



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User currently offlineDtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1553 posts, RR: 4
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9470 times:

Wow. Truly a sad day!!


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User currently offlineCV990 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9408 times:


Hi!

The 757 was a model from early 80's, they got quite a good number of them builted so I think it's a smart move to end the production. Next will be the 767 and the arrival of the 7E7 ( 787 ) will boost Boeing sales because soon the airlines wil start to think about replacing the 757/767 family, and I tell you, there are a lot to be replaced!
regards


User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9380 times:


What are THE main reasons airlines no longer buy the 757 ?

Boeing never really upgraded the 757 as they did with the 737, 747 and 767.

Would it have been wise if they had done that 5-6 yrs ago ?



User currently offlineBeltwaybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9352 times:

I once suggested that the 737 had grown (in size and scope) to overshadow the 757 market, but I got shouted down here. So, what niche did the 757 occupy, and what will fill that niche (if needed)?

User currently offlineHlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 6
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9316 times:

I still don't know the size range of the 7E7. They talk about a 757 and 767 replacement, but that is quite a broad range from the 757-200 to the 767-400.

As of right now Airbus is not making anything in between the A321 and the A330-200, so that is a nice big range right there. That would be like Boeing not having anything between the 737-800 and the 767-300.


User currently offlineBeltwaybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 9253 times:

I guess the market doesn't want anything between a 738 and a 763!

User currently offlineMCIB757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 280 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9132 times:

I knew this day was coming soon, but even though I expected it, its still very sad.

To my favorite a/c the Boeing 757

Tom



"God bless catastrophe..."
User currently offlineAIR757200 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 1579 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9119 times:


The 757 is also my favorite aircraft.


What are THE main reasons airlines no longer buy the 757 ?

Well, maybe it has met its requirements within the market.

How many did Boeing forecast to sell when they marketed the aircraft?


User currently offlineCitationX From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 110 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9076 times:

For a plane that once struggled for sales back in the early 1980s, the 757 program had a solid sales run for over two decades. Overall, it was a good performer and money-maker for the many airliners who flew it. But time and technology eventually will catch and pass all planes, no matter how good they are. This is the case with the 757.

While it represented cutting-edge technology in the 1980s, the 757's avionics suite is probably getting obsolete. Engine technology has also advanced significantly since the 757 was introduced. The 757-300 was an honest attempt to extend the life of the program, but the events of 9/11/01 and tough competition from the A321 and Boeing's 737-900NG sealed its fate. That being said, however, I expect the 757 to continue providing solid, mainline service for at least another decade.

On a happier note: For those of you hoping for the 7E7 go-ahead, the end of the 757 program may be one of the key events in preparation for the new aircraft's launch.


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 9026 times:

How is the B739X coming along?

User currently offlineTekelberry From United States of America, joined May 2003, 1459 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8990 times:

Boeing never really upgraded the 757 as they did with the 737, 747 and 767.

What do you call the 753 then? I believe they only got 2 customers for that. Why would they enhance the 757 with a new series when the -200 doesn't need any enhancements and the -300 didn't go over too well.

The 737NG competes better with the Airbus competition. Besides, if anyone wants any more 757s after they go into post-production, there will be plenty in the used aircraft market for them to buy/lease.


User currently offlineCanyonBlue From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8941 times:

This sucks. The 757 is my favorite aircraft. At least they'll be around for a long time, I look forward to flying them in the future.

User currently offlineN766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 8193 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8926 times:

I believe they only got 2 customers for that

Northwest, Continental, ATA, Akira, and Condor make 5.



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User currently offlineKjet12 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 975 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8890 times:

This is sad news. I have always enjoyed flying the 757s. An end of an era is nearing for commercial aviation!

Kris



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User currently offlineDtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1553 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8854 times:

I guess we can say one thing about it. You will probably be able to fly on them for at least 20 years. 727 production ended in 1984 and you can still find one here or there to fly on.

It really comes as a surprise to me. I figured at least another 10 years in production. I heard them say one time on a 777 tv show that I saw, that Boeing expected to have a 50 year production cycle for the 777.



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User currently offlineFlyABR From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 646 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8773 times:

seems it was one of the safest planes too....how many of those 1000 or so have crashed...?

User currently onlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3740 posts, RR: 12
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8676 times:
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Oh yes, they'll be around for years to come. You'll still see them in large numbers at American, Delta, Northwest and United, those are the major carriers that operate them in large numbers. Don't worry, if you want to fly on one you'll still have plenty of occasions to get one long after it goes out of production end of next year. You'll see a lot of them in the United States till at least 2015, I estimate. Look at the 727, it has been out of production for now nearly two decades and it is only this year that the last 727 has been phased out from passenger service at major carriers. So it is reasonable to think that we'll still see 757's in passenger service till at least the mid 2010's.
Yes, it is sad to see the end of the 757 production is near. It's sad to see the end of any airliner. That rumour has been going around for a few months, I read in Airliners earlier this year that if no more orders were received then the 757 productin line could be shut down by 2005. It was then a rumour, Boeing was still accepting new orders for the 757, both the 200 and 300 series aircraft, but now Boeing has officially announced that the 757 production line would soon come to an end. That means Boeing will no longer accept new orders. I see three reasons why Boeing has taken this decision, according to what I've been reading on airliners.net:
1. Boeing wants to officially launch the 7E7 next year
2. Continental has decided to cancel 6 753's on order and convert those to 738's.
3. No 757 orders have been received within the last two years (9-11 being the main reason sales at Boeing drastically dropped down, but another reason is a lot of airlines showed interest in the Next Generation 737 series aircraft), I'm not positive about that one, but I remember seeing somewhere that besides the 753's due to be delivered to Continental, Boeing has in remaining orders to be filled only 7 more aircrafts to build and deliver.
Today the 757 is old like the 727-200 was old 20 years ago.

Ben Soriano
Brussels Belgium




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User currently offlineDuncan From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 8517 times:

Shame, but we all knew it was coming....The 757 has been good to me, I've worked on it in various ways for 7 years now, in production at Boeing, in service at an airline and supporting the RB211 engines.. nice looking aircraft "Long Tall Sally".

The 757 will stay for some years as a venerable passenger aircraft and, with at least 1 STC out there for freighter conversions, sees a good long second life as a very fuel efficient and economical freighter to take up the slack when those 727 (and other stage 2/3) freighters start being mothballed.

(Note: JMC also operate the -300)

Duncan


User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8401 times:

To 727LOVER...992 757-200s have been ordered, with 6 left to be built. 61 757-300s have been ordered, with 12 left to be built as well...but the CO deal with Boeing is probably changing this. All in all, there probably be roughly 1,040 757s assembled. It didn't quite make the number of 727-200s made. Regards.


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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4489 posts, RR: 33
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8323 times:

The 757 is a great plane and I love flying transcon in it. I think the main reason that 757 orders have fallen off is that the 757 is an orphan that doesn't fit with new market realities.

Airlines are trying to simplify fleets, especially in the US. Having two narrowbody families apparently doesn't fit those economic conditions, and the bulk of most carriers' narrowbody needs are in the 100-150-seat range. So the 73G series and A32X series--which as several people have noted have newer avionics as well--are the ones that stay in demand. As noted above, the 7E7 will cover the 753 and 762 capacity slots.

From what I read the 739 doesn't match the 757's range and stretches its range flying transcontinental. Is the 739X is supposed to solve that issue?

Continental and the few other 753 operators are exceptions--how many more a/c do they have on order? Fortunately, there are lots of 757's out there, so as Ben noted we'll no doubt be seeing them on the apron long after production ceases.

Jim


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3411 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 8265 times:

I too love the 757, and am also very sad to here the news...the last two years have just sucked for the aviation industry. At least the oldest ones are only 20 years old, so they'll still be around for a few more.

User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4477 posts, RR: 15
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 8169 times:

This is terrible news.

The 757 is my second favourite aircraft, right behind the 727. I had hoped that boeing would at least consider the prospect that once the market picks up, the surplus 757s will get used again, and airlines will like to buy more new 757s off the line.

It'll take a miracle now to save the 757....nothing short of a very large order for a customer that projects wanting many of them over the years...placed in 2004...will save it. I hope this happens. Because like it or not, the 7e7 is not the replacement for the 757. The 739x might end up being one...but honestly, can a stretched-to-the-extreme 737NG really match the 757? The fuel economy and the power on the 757 are just two things to consider. The 739 right now is very underpowered compared to the 757.

Maybe boeing doesn't see the 757 market as having any future growth. I dont think this is true. The entire reason that the 757 isn't successful right now is simply because of the fact that there are so many surplus models out there. Once those go back into service, the demand will return, and itll take an economic recovery to make that happen.


I think this is a bad idea, to close the 757 line. I feel even worse knowing some people were cheering for this sort of news to come about. As much as you may like the 739 or the 7e7, they are no replacements for the 757. At least not yet. The 739 could never match the power and beauty of a 757. The 739 is just plain ugly by comparison.


User currently offlineAdam T. From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 957 posts, RR: 6
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days ago) and read 8055 times:

I also love the 757, such a graceful aircraft  Smile
Sad to hear that they will be ending production.
Adam


25 Venuscat2 : What if ATA wants to order more 757s? Do you think they will buy something else, or buy used from another airline?
26 Danny : What are THE main reasons airlines no longer buy the 757 ? They buy A321 - that's a huge cost savings for an airline comparing to 757. You need one ai
27 Aloha717200 : That is not the major reason. The A321 doesn't really match the 757. For an airline operating large fleets of 757s already, it makes much more sense t
28 Post contains images CRJmx : They may be ending production, but we'll be seeing these great looking aircraft for many years to come.
29 Post contains images Danny : Underpowered? Thats what they called economic - no need to make impressive take offs and excessive climbs as passengers really don't like them. Rememb
30 Boeing nut : I am becoming very disappointed with Boeing. This is one of the best airliners in the world. There are no others than can compete with it. There are d
31 N79969 : This is very sad news. The 757 is bar none the most graceful narrowbody airplane in service. Boeing is in the business to make money and not to please
32 Aloha717200 : Danny, those US Air 757s you posted may not end up going back to US Airways, but they will definitely end up going to another major carrier should the
33 PROSA : A sensible decision on Boeing's part, to be sure, but even so I'll miss the 757's sleek lines. I know, they'll remain in service for years to come, bu
34 Post contains images Mexicana757 : Sad, sad news. One of my favorite aircrafts is going out of production. Oh well, it's time was coming. But we will still have them around in service f
35 CRJ'sRule : The 757 got cancelled? That's really bad. As far as short/medium hall jets go, they're great airplanes. I wonder if Boeing has another aircraft plan u
36 RayChuang : I think while 757 production is ending, the plane will continue in service well past 2010. I wouldn't be surprised that we may see a re-engining progr
37 Post contains images Aloha717200 : No 737 will ever take the place of the Boeing 757.
38 PSU.DTW.SCE : RayChuang, The 757 already meets Stage IV
39 Alessandro : FlyABR, 1035 B757 delivered so far according to www.boeing.com and 8 crashed according to www.aviation-safety.net (2 crashed on the 9/11-01 on purpose
40 Ckfred : I saw Phil Condit on CNBC several months ago say that Boeing had 3 or 4 potential customers for the 757. But if none of them would commit within the n
41 Aloha717200 : Exactly. The 739 is not a viable replacement for the 757. It comes close in terms of capacity, but it doesnt exactly replace the 757 in it's own marke
42 BoingGoingGone : Soon they will all vanish. Boeings planes are out dated. Change is coming, change is good. We all just need to settle down and get used to it. Now, fo
43 GoAround : Hmm... Sad news indeed, always liked the 757. But she'll be around for years to come. Look at all the DC-9s everywhere, and all the MD-80s! Great airc
44 Aloha717200 : 7E7-100 - 100-150 Seats (2015) 7E7-200 - 150-200 Seats (2010) Wide Body: 7E7-300 - 200-250 Seats (2008) 7E7-400 - 250-300 Seats (2009) 7E7-500 - 300-3
45 Post contains images BoingGoingGone : It's not about boring, it's about cost effectiveness. At least it's not a Yugo!
46 Aloha717200 : Yep, I know about that. For a minute I'm sitting aside the logic of the plan which my brain accepts...and letting my heart speak. I love the 757. I lo
47 Post contains images Boeing nut : Soon they will all vanish. Boeings planes are out dated. Whatever. I guess the 777, the most advanced airliner in the world, doesn't count. Nor the 73
48 GalvanAir777 : The 757 is the best Twin Engine Plane in its range category. No other plane can come close it in terms of speed, comfort and safety. It is a very sad
49 Swafan : I've flown the 757 on transcon and overseas flights. Truly a beautiful and reliable airplane. It does though overlap with the 737NG. In an era of cont
50 Donder10 : Boeing have floated the idea of a B739ER several times which should plug the gap of the 752.At least one customer of the B753 hasn't been overly pleas
51 Tiger119 : I would not be surprised if TZ picks up a few more B753s. They are still adding flights and routes.
52 Post contains links and images Dan2002 : A Sad Day In Aviation History! View Large View MediumPhoto © Hisham Atallah View Large View MediumPhoto © Brian Futterman View Large View Me
53 Asianguy767 : Its really sad to see the B757 coming to an end...if only some Chinese airline makes a huge order 2 prolong its production life...
54 Post contains images Robw340 : My favorite narrow-body aircraft...comfortable and versatile -and very unique & hopefully i'l have a change to fly it many times in the next 10-15 yrs
55 Gigneil : I am becoming very disappointed with Boeing. This is one of the best airliners in the world. It makes me sad, but there are no orders. Nobody wants it
56 Brons2 : Considering the 757/767 was a single program, Boeing still has the opportunity to hit 2250 orders for the combined program, with the tanker orders. I'
57 Bruce : Since the 757 and 767 are one line, how long do you think until we see the shutdown of the 767? Will the 7e7 replace the 767? bruce
58 Cloudy : 7e7 replace the 767? ---- Yes, though it will also open up new markets due to the range of its heavier varients. In fact, this pretty much assures th
59 Planemaker : Nice to see all the passionate and poetic posts of 757 admirers! For those that don't realize it (or rave about the comfort of the 757), the 757 cabin
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