Cancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 13 Posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6660 times:
now, we all know that LOT flights in the peak seasons are completely filled to capacity. would the -400 be an economical option to use at those times? they could continue to operate the same routes, and carry more pax. personally , i would love to see the -400 in the LOT colours.
"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
Jaws707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 708 posts, RR: 1 Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6512 times:
That sounds like it would be a good idea to capitalize on the seasonal demand, but the other side to that argument is during the winter their airplanes fly very empty, so the benefit of the 400 series would only be realized during those few months, and I am not sure that is enough to justify the purchase of new aircraft. Eventually they will need to replace the 767's and personally I believe it will be with the 7E7.
BAJMowiec From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 6484 times:
In off-peak seasons, they can fly WAW-JFK-ORD-WAW,all together, on a 764. That could work. Also, how about a return to the Far East ? Bangkok, Tokyo, Beijing, Singapore and Sydney, along with Melbourne (Sydney and Melbourne considering that many Poles left for Australia in early 80's, and settled massively in these 2 cities). So, a -400 could be ''worked'' in. Another possible replacement is the A332, which seems quite possible, considering factors such as the EU integration and the possible pressure from other European airlines to support Airbus, I mean that's just my thought, but it does seem logical.
BAJMowiec From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 99 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6448 times:
9V-SVC, I agree, the A332 would be great for far East Routes .. yes, I know I am getting on that case again, but I need to win some support back in 1990's LOT did Beijing, Bankgkok, Singapore and Delhi, now we don't go further than Moscow ! Come on, let's make a petition to LOT !!!!
Danny From Poland, joined Apr 2002, 3482 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 6446 times:
I think A332 is the best choice and the most probable choice as 7E7 will not be ready at the time when LOT plans to replace current 767. The reliability of current 767 is not the best and I don't think they will go for new 767.
Considering strong partnership with Lufthansa A332 becomes even more probable.
Cancidas From Poland, joined Jul 2003, 4112 posts, RR: 13 Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6329 times:
i'm down for the petition to LOT!
LOT will most likely stick with boeing when it comes to ordering new aircraft. LOT has a very good relationship with both boeing and the us govt. they are already flying a large boeing fleet and are complety self sufficient in terms of mx, they even have thier own paint house. pilots are trained to fly 2 major types of boeing a/c, meaning that they would only be hurting themselves buying airbus planes now. also, the planes operated by LOT are still capable of flying, i doubt that they will be replaced any time soon.
with regards to flights to australian, the 767-400ER may be the ideal platform for those. right now i'm unsure if they would be able to operate those legs nonstop but do think that it would be a very nice addition to the route structure. i'd love to go visit my family there on a LOT flight from WAW.
"...cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home."
Sllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 7 Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6139 times:
The 767-400 would fit perfectly for LOT by allowing them to keep 763's where the extra capacity isn't needed, and they should get better economics out of the 764 that the A332, since they won't need to tote the extra 40,000 pounds of aircraft around...
But the 7E7 may be out in time. Who knows for sure?
Konrad From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 494 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5915 times:
Doesn't the 767-400 have rather short range ? What is good enough for COs EWR-BRU might not be sufficient to make WAW/KrK - ORD with strong headwinds. Also, no improvement in cargo capacity over the 763 and 762s doesn't make it especially attractive. I would hope they go for 777s one day but that's probably dreaming. The only realistic option is 330 or 7E7 later on.
Leskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 72 Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5823 times:
Behramjee, why should LOT buy DL 764s configured in high density layout while, as Codeshare writes, even the 763s aren't always fully utilites? Wouldn't, if at all, a 764 in a more comfortable "international" layout make much more sense for them, considering this point?
But I still don't think that 764s are really the way to go for LOT - depending on when they want the replacements in the fleet, I suspect that the 332 or 7E7 will be front-runners - since they've, as I understand it, said that they want to replace their current 767s, I don't really see too much sense in them increasing the 767 fleet now, just to replace it within a relatively short timeframe.
SPLOBKrakow From Poland, joined Sep 2003, 105 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 5814 times:
Unfortunatelly LOT will have to start replacing their 767. It's not resonable to think that they will wait for the 7E7. I think that their best choice right now would be 777. As mentioned before they do have a good relationship with Boeing, and the chances of LOT purchasing anything form Airbus seems very slim.
I think the 777 would look very nice in LOT's livery