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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

Ok, i go to Heathrow like every two weeks but i only stay at or around the vistors centre, or maybe hatton cross. Tomorrow I'm going to Heathrow to see Concorde one last time, and i want to get the best out of it. However, unless a miracle occurs they will be on easterly winds, which means they will be taking of on 09R, the opposite side to the visitors centre. (Unless of course they freakishly decide to take off Concorde on 09L, but i doubt that'll happen now that 09R/27L has been completely (re-surfaced?). So, my main to places are at Hatton Cross where it'll come directly overhead or the place near the petrol station at the other end of the runway. I would choose the latter because you see it taxiing past and then see it start rolling, however there is nowhere to park up there. So can anybody give me any advice on where to go/will they definately be on 09R etc.

-Stephen

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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 2456 times:

OMG i wooz askin dat question im goin on Tues.


Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 2384 times:

09L takeoffs don't happen any more. It is possible that T5 construction cranes could block the 09L approach meaning everything takes off from 09L, but that is extremely unlikely. If the winds are easterly assume it will be an 09R departure.

If you pick a good spot at Hatton Cross you will be able to see Concorde come out of the T4 area, taxi to the other end of the airfield, line up, start her takeoff roll and then fly right over and blast your ears off!

To see the BA001 line up and start her roll close up, you can park in the forecourt of the ESSO garage at the south west end of LHR. I've been there a couple of times and the staff seem very tolerant of Concorde spotters parking there, so it's best to buy a packet of crisps or a drink just to say thanks!

Make sure you don't park by the side of the perimeter road, always go to a car park or into a petrol station etc. In the last week the police have got very strict about illegal parking - they don't hesitate in towing a car away or giving out tickets.

Declan


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 7 hours ago) and read 2279 times:

Thanks a lot.

When you said about at Hatton Cross you can see it coming out and going to the end of the runway etc, wouldn't you need like a grandstand or something to do that, because if you are just standing there then the car park is in the way. Maybe you know of a different place around there. I tend to stand by the AFX cargo place. Thanks

-Stephen


User currently offlineShamrock_747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 4 hours ago) and read 2228 times:

To get a decent view of the airfield at Hatton Cross you need to walk down the perimeter road until you're near Myrtle Avenue. If you're right by the fence you can look under the metal panels to see down the runway, or you can look over the fence from the pavement in between the inner/outer perimeter roads, or even from the raised bit of grass at the end of Myrtle Avenue.

Have fun today, I'll be there for the tow across, landing and takeoff!  Smile

Declan


User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2187 times:

Parking in the ESSO garage is really good. I went down in May, my dad went in and asked if we could park there, the man said yes and we got free parking all day Big grin.

DC-10


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2163 times:

DC-10 Levo,

Will the ESSO Garage get busy, now that concorde is in it's final week or do the "general public" not know about it, and not tend to go there? Thanks for your help, Shamrock and DC-10 Big grin

-Stephen


User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2158 times:

I don't think the 'general public' know that you are allowed to park there free of charge. If you get there early enough you should definately get a parking spot, but it'll be a little busier now it's Concorde's last week.

DC-10


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Would you recommend it over Hatton Cross? Also how early should i get there to ensure a spot? Thanks

-Stephen


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 2149 times:

I thought Concorde could only use 09L/27R?

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2130 times:

That was when 9R/27L was being re-surfaced (i think)

-Stephen


User currently offlineEGGD From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2001, 12443 posts, RR: 35
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

When was the re-surfacing finished?

Bah I never get told anything Big grin


User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

About a month ago i think.

DC-10 or Shamrock or anyone on http://www.concordesst.com/latestnews.html it says under the second heading that all operation will take place on the north runway. And that was added on the 14th October. I'm really desperate now because i know whatever runway i go to, it's going to depart on the other one.

Thanks
-Stephen


User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 20
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2058 times:
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From the Hatton Cross station, walk along the A30 perimeter road until you get to the grassy patch half way between Myrtle avenue and Hatton Cross station. From here you can see Concorde seconds after rotating and it should be at around 200 feet off the ground, this is where i usually spot from.



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User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1960 times:

By the way, I was there last Sunday and there were literally hundreds of cars parked along the perimeter road, at both ends - near Hatton Cross, and near the Esso garage. Given that this is the last weekend it's flying, I would expect it to be even more busy today!

User currently offlineDC-10 Levo From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3432 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 1953 times:

I wont be going down to LHR before Concorde is retired, there's just going to be too many people there. The best time to go would be a weekday (other than Friday). You've just gotta get there early, park up and mark your spot Big grin.

DC-10


User currently offlineAloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8731 posts, RR: 42
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1924 times:

I went to Hatton Cross yesterday, and since I went on the Underground, I didn't have any parking problems. My spot was right at the entrance of the staff car park and couldn't have been better; Concorde flew directly over my head causing a little earthquake and setting off some car alarms.


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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4106 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 1887 times:

I know this isn't my thread but thanx everyone for thereplies as i am going on Tuesday and didn't have a clue where to go. Thanx again everyone (and stephen for postin it savin me effort)
Sam Laugh out loud



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User currently offlineSabena 690 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1838 times:

Guys, SSC was taxiing 20 minuts ago for 09L.

I saw it take off a few months ago from 09L, but this was because the runway wasn't resurfaced yet.

Why this take off from 09L today?

Aircraft should be just airborne now.

Frederic


User currently offlineStar_world From Ireland, joined Jun 2001, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

Well this evening was a very interesting experience at LHR... there was a massive operation set up along the south side of the perimeter road, huge police presence everywhere, a barrier set up to stop people parking on the side of the road, and literally thousands of people lining the road all the way from Hatton Cross (including on the footbridge) and all the way down to near the T4 exit. Never seen so many people in the area. Then I heard on the scanner BA001 asking for clearance to 09L! Thought I might have mis-heard it but then a few mins later they were told to wait for clearance to cross 09R, so we very quickly drove over to the other side. There were a few people who'd obviously heard the same thing and were running as fast as they could over to the 09L side. We got there and parked, and it was pretty much deserted - maybe 20 people at the most. By the time the flight actually departed it was quite busy, but I'm pretty sure most people were still over on the wrong side. Amazing departure with the afterburners lighting up the night sky, and the sharp turn to the south immediately afterwards.

And to top things off, they towed the spare A/C across the road a few mins later, both sides of the crossing were lined with hundreds of people. Quite an impressive sight.

As to why it departed from 09L - my best guess is security - by announcing only at the last minute that it's going from the other runway, it would make any terrorism operation much more difficult to carry out... just a guess though!!!

star_world


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1720 times:

27R is slightly longer so it might have been an issue of weight/runway length.

User currently offlineSilverfox From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1058 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1703 times:

It was manic tonight!! esp the A3044 for the landing, the idiots were even parking on the central reservation overhanging the outside lanes!!

OH and the rumour mill has it the BA are erecting fences at the base to shield the arrivals from the common populace on the 24th. Any truth in that


User currently offlineVirgin744 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 919 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1679 times:

Just to add my 2 cents worth. The visitors centre is setting up a grandstand for the ocassion on the 24th and if you go to baa.com and then onto Heathrow there's a competition they are running for the chance to win seats in the grandstand.


virgin744



User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1683 times:

Ok i was there too. It was amazing. I was talking to this guy in the visitors centre. He told me a lot of info i.e. Clearance frequency and a lot of helpful stuff. After the arrival og G-BOAE at around 17:55 on 9L everybody went round to Hatton Cross. We followed as it was almost safe assured that it was departing there, however we had seen an Emirates B777, an Air Canada B747-400 and a Virgin Atlantic A340-600 depart from 09L.

We went round there and parked in the car park of a pub about half a mile away from Hatton Cross. We walked down there to find many people. Then after standing there for 5mins I looked up and saw a cross of contrails forming a perfect X. I thought maybe this meant i was at the wrong place Big grin. Then that man appeared again, and told us it had just got clearance for a 9L departure. We rushed back to the car and went across, radio in hand. I knew this was the last time i was going to see it in operation and i did not want to screw this one up. Then the guy on Tower Control said "For those spotters looking for Concorde, it will be departing on the northern runway today." At this point we had beaten the rush and were back at the visitors centre.

I took up my position by the road and started to listen to my ATC. I think it must have changed to something else because i heard no take off clearance for Alpha Charlie and i suddenly heard a roar and a set of lights. There she was. The afterburners looked amazing in the darkness and when they were turned off, i could only think to myself that i'd never see that again. It flew round to the south and round to the west. Farewell!

The reason for the random departures on 9L was due to some problem, which meant that the departures could not use the full length of 9R.

Thanks
-Stephen


User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13239 posts, RR: 77
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 1637 times:

Having saw the insane parking and just stopping dead on what is a busy road tonight for the BA001 departure, I can quite understand the nervousness of the police, they have not only safety to worry about but also security in these times.
My advice, which I know some of you are not going to like, is to keep away from LHR on Friday.
Fences facing the BA Concorde hangar will be blocked for viewing, road closures are likely too, I'm on shift for the Friday, most of us plan to get in hours earlier than usual, so will I even though I can walk in if need be.


25 Shamrock_747 : Great 09L takeoff tonight, I saw it from the grandstand (which isn't very grand at all!) in the Visitor Centre car park. Nice meeting you tonight GDB
26 GDB : So that's who you were then!? I did ask Gordon!
27 Planesarecool : Shamrock_747 I was in the grandstand for the arrival. I was the one standing on my chair and getting in everyone's way. Well hey if i didn't i couldn'
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