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Will The New 7E7 Be Known As 787?  
User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8670 times:

Hi folks...
Just wondering if Boeing's new 7E7 is going to follow tradition and be known as the 787 eventually? I've always thought that the 'E' stood for 'eight'. While I know the program has not officially been launched, it's almost a sure bet the aircraft is coming. Your opinions on this theory welcomed. Regards.


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User currently offlineRyder10uk From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2003, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8597 times:

I heard a rumour it was going to be called Boeing 818

User currently offlineN79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8578 times:

I think there will definitely be an "8" in the model number. 8 is considered lucky in China and is a big part of the reason why the A3XX became the A380 and not the A350.

User currently offlineBobs89irocz From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 632 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8514 times:

I think that is a quess, i think Boeing will end up with that name (787).

i dont believe it would be called that for the people of China but hopefully that will help in the purchassing side of the plane.

I was currious why Airbus called it the A380 and not the 350. Is that really the reason why?


User currently offlineMidway2airtran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8453 times:

I think that the 818 would be a possibility; the 7E7 program may eventually lead a totally new generation or line of Boeing aircraft if successful, hence a new set of model numbers may be appropriate. Of course it is just my guessing!


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User currently offlineA330_DTW From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 371 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 8423 times:

What about "Dreamliner".

Maybe they're alluding to the fact that the 7E7 will fade away just like the Sonic Cruiser--it's just a dream.


User currently offlineBCAInfoSys From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 8339 times:

A330_DTW.. we don't need that negativity. And I can tell you, as a Boeing employee, I am 99.9% sure that the 7E7 will not only launch, but be very successful.

For me, I worked in Information Systems, specifically working with the Finance department. And without going into any specifics, I can tell you that Boeing allocated a substantial amount of their IS budget next year for 7E7 projects.

I agree, Dreamliner is a stupid name; but try to keep things positive, ok?  Smile


User currently offlineMidnightMike From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2892 posts, RR: 14
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8238 times:


The 7E7 will be built, they are already working on training programs for both pilots & tech training.



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6495 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8216 times:

I'm pretty sure that when it's launched it will be the 787. If they had been thinking of calling it the 818 or 808, they would have called it the 8E8 before launch and not 7E7.

The777Man



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User currently offlineCLEspotter From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 43 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8174 times:

I agree that It will become the 818 or something like 858 because its a new type of aircraft!

User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2688 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8157 times:

I agree with The777Man. It wouldn't make sense for Boeing to call a project 7E7 and launch a totally different one like the 8E8. I wouldn't expect them to go into the 8E8 series after and if they produce the 797. It disagrees with Boeing tradition of naming their passenger aircraft in the order they were introduced, with the exception of the Boeing 720 and the 717. The rest makes sense if you exclude these two (707/727/737/747/757/767/777). Overall point--Most often Boeing increase the middle number by 1 when a new model is produced. My bets are the 7E7 will become the 787.

--Thrust



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User currently offlineBoeing nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 8070 times:

It's Boeing tradition to in one way or another, to have the number 7 within the model number. B-29, 7#7, etc. The 818 would fit here.

User currently offlineNoise From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1768 posts, RR: 4
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8008 times:

It better be known as the 787. I don't call it the 7E7, why put a letter in it? Don't get me started on the name "Dreamliner".

818? I'd prefer if they stuck with the 7s. 787, 797, then change to 8.


User currently offlineDtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1553 posts, RR: 4
Reply 13, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7871 times:

I was sort of thinking that if the 7E7 is built, that it would be the 787. A 7?7 is easily recognizable as a Boeing. Boeing has used these different variations in 7's ie 7E7 in the past to describe future or concept planes. I have two different books from the 80's that talk about the 7-7 and the 7J7. The 7-7 may have become the second generation 737, not really sure. The 7J7 was similar to a 717 with a T-tail and 2 rear engines. The engines were jets with some sort of external blades on the rear of the engines. It was to compete with the MD-80 series I believe. I too hope it is the 787.


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User currently offlineDl1011 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 386 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7817 times:

I went on the Boeing tour about 2 weeks ago and the guide said that it would be the 787.

User currently offlineSinlock From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 1637 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7729 times:

Thrust,

Actualy there have been two 717's. The Boeing house code for the C-135 program was 717. The second as most people is what was the MD-95.



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User currently offlineVS340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 7703 times:

i believe the reason the A380 was named that was because the 8 represented the two decks of the aircraft, one on top of the other.

User currently offlineBirdwatching From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 3808 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7620 times:

Why 787? When they came up with the second generation 737, they didn`t change the family name either. Since the 7E7 is basically another long-range twin, it makes sense to call the 7E7 a 777-800 or whatever.


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User currently offlineN243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1624 posts, RR: 20
Reply 18, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 7592 times:

The 7J7 was similar to a 717 with a T-tail and 2 rear engines. The engines were jets with some sort of external blades on the rear of the engines. It was to compete with the MD-80 series I believe.

Are you talking about this one?

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User currently offlineEI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7480 times:

What are those weird things? I've never seen anything like them before. Do you have any idea?

Brian



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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2688 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 7440 times:

I actually meant to say that in addition I the reason I hypothesized Boeing would name the 7E7 the 787 was because I heard that the 7E7's fuselage was to, in no way, shape or form, bear any resemblance to any previous Boeing aircraft, not even the 777. However, Birdwatching is correct in my perspective when we refer to simply "stretching an aircraft." But then again, I see his point. And thank you, Sinlock for your comment as well. I had no idea that Boeing produced two 717 models! Very interesting. Very......

--Thrust



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User currently offlineDtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1553 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7320 times:

Yah the picture of the 7J7 looked similar to that, but it was a Boeing concept in the 1980's before the Boeing/McDonnell Douglas merger. It would have been a competitor to this airplane. I beleive that it might have had a wider fuselage, similar to the 737. According to this book, Boeing wanted to use it as a replacement for 727's in the 150 seat market.


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User currently offlineBlooBirdie From Lesotho, joined Sep 2003, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 7273 times:

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User currently offlineCaetravlr From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 908 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 7096 times:

Ok guys, I have a different theory than most of you. A couple of you have mentioned that it could end up being the start of an 8 series or something like that, but no one mentioned the reasons that I have for thinking that is the case.

Remember the 707? The prototype was ORIGINALLY named the 367-80. It was named after a series of airliners that Boeing already produced until Boeing was ready to unveil the real name for the next generation family of airliners. The 367s were not even jets! I think with the next leap in technology that Boeing is going for here, they will probably create a new series or family of airliner.

It is just my theory, but it would be in line with Boeing history to call it the 7E7 until it is ready to reveal the next generation to the world.



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User currently offlineKateAV8 From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 99 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 6800 times:

Hey everybody  Smile

I thought it was going to be called the 7E7 "Dreamliner" permanently. If the artist renderings and everything I've read & heard about it are accurate, then "Dreamliner" is the perfect name for it. Okay you guys I realize I sound silly...I'm just excited about this new Boeing!

As far as the "8" in the A380 - I read that Airbus decided to call it this because the "8" represents the double decks. I wonder if that's true or not. Anybody else hear this too?

-Kate



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25 Chrisdigo : N79969: 8 is considered lucky in China and is a big part of the reason why the A3XX became the A380 and not the A350. That's right. I will ad also tha
26 NDSchu777 : Why 787? When they came up with the second generation 737, they didn`t change the family name either. Since the 7E7 is basically another long-range t
27 WGW2707 : I heard that Boeing was going to switch to an alpha-numeric model-referencing system, and that the E in 7E7 was selected as the model was replacing th
28 TodaReisinger : Overall point--Most often Boeing increase the middle number by 1 when a new model is produced. My bets are the 7E7 will become the 787. Maybe....but w
29 Post contains images Jaspike : As far as the "8" in the A380 - I read that Airbus decided to call it this because the "8" represents the double decks. I wonder if that's true or not
30 Cessna172RG : Maybe they should use 600 numbers... Like, the Boeing 616, replacement of the 717 in about 20 years... The Boeing 626, replacement of Mazda 626s excep
31 NDSchu777 : Since this plane should really represent something totally new, I think Boeing will introduce a new denomination (and thus btw avoid the "post 797" q
32 Post contains images Robw340 : "I've always thought that the 'E' stood for 'eight'"....I think i read somewhere some time ago that the 'E' stood for Efficient, due to its innovative
33 MarcJet66 : Bobs89irocz said:I was currious why Airbus called it the A380 and not the 350. Is that really the reason why? When I was reading once, about the A380,
34 Corsair2 : If Boeing did something revolutionary like a commercial Blended Wing Body they probably would use a 808, 818, etc. series. The 7E7 baseline design is
35 Paddy : Good call, Corsair2. Although the 7E7 will pioneer some new technologies, I think that they will basically be improvements on existing concepts. From
36 Pilotpip : Boeing's SST design that never materialized was the 2707. The Dreamliner name is reference to their heratage. Stratoliner, Stratocruiser, etc. I have
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