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Why Doesn't Boeing Make A Light 737-600?  
User currently offlineRockyRacoon From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 961 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3775 times:

How come Boeing cannot create a lighter version of the 737-600? It would seem to be an obvious move. I would bet many airlines would jump on the idea, such as AA and DL.

Tim

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User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3602 times:

Tim,

I think that the main reason would be the tremendous costs of redesigning the 737-600 airframe...


User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3551 times:

Ok when is this going to become a they should just buy the 717 thread? To make the 737-600 lighter would mean to change it significantly internally which would cause it to lose some of its commonality with the other 737s.. If someone wants the little thing its there, if not its no skin off Boeings nose, its just there in case a loyal Boeing customer starts salivating over the A318 (or as I call it "the short bus").

User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 850 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3543 times:

SAS would gladly give them away........I wish Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Hate the chubby piggies called B736.
Hejdå
Michael/SE



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User currently offlineAccidentally From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 643 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3493 times:
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HOLY CRAP! I bet Boeing has never thought of this!


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User currently offlineKorg747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 549 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3450 times:

The 737-600 is actully less heavy than the A318 and yet some airlines order the A318 so the issue is not the weight anymore IMHO.


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User currently offlineMlsrar From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 1417 posts, RR: 8
Reply 6, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 15 hours ago) and read 3447 times:

Why doesn't Airbus make a 'light' 318? I'm not understanding the question?


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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3411 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3359 times:

It seems to me that both Airbus and Boeing cannot make a light version of their short planes, otherwise Embraer wouldn't have a leg to stand on in this market. Why would anyone add a totally seperate type of aircraft to their inventory unless the alternative is a definite wrong idea in the first palce? Not saying that the 318 or 736 do not serve a market, it just means that they will be more of a niche aircraft like the 753 is.

User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3351 times:

RockyRaccoon,

to answer your question: Boeing tends to overbuild its base aircraft, in order to have the ability to stretch them should the market dictate. It did so twice with the 762 airframe. It's also stretched the 777, 757, and of course.... 737.


The problem is, the 73G is actually the base of the 737NG line due to WN's launch, not the 736. The 738 came later, as did the 739.... each having similar aggregate costs, but lower per-seat costs.

The 736, like the A318, a direct shrink with many of the same parts/components/features (and therefore, similar weight). The 736 has exceeded the acceptable margin of seats/weight that its longer brethren share. This is a common problem with shrinks.

A319 and A332 have been notable acceptions.

The proposed 771X and A335 flopped, for this reason, before ever being launched.


User currently offlineMf3864 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3274 times:

So here is a stupid question:

I am the guy at Delta ordering new planes. I like the economics of the 737-700 but, dont need the capacity. Rather than buy a 737-600 why not buy the -700, outfit it in a combi config, and fill the rest of it up with cargo? Oh, the market picked up, I need more steats, take out the combi config, add seats, im good to go. Why is this such a tough nut to crack?


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 14 hours ago) and read 3216 times:

Mf3864,

simple... because the FAA is not going to certify the 736 to become a combi (nor neither any other current/future aircraft model, for that case)


User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 11 hours ago) and read 3130 times:

736 is a FAT looking a/c. Like the girl you Didn't want to date in high school  Big grin
From what I've read on the forum the 736 is VERY heavy like the A318. I think DL will purchase them as a future replacement for 732. Other than that, I hope to see more than SAS operating them



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User currently offlineStartvalve From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 9 months 1 week 10 hours ago) and read 3064 times:

I was under the distinct impression the economics of the 737-600 sucked donkey nuts. Its heavy so it costs a fortune in landing fees when you consider how few seats it has and how much fuel it burns moving its heavy butt through the air. I doubt it will see many orders especially in the US.

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