Airlinefreak1 From United Arab Emirates, joined Jul 2000, 260 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (10 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 5365 times:
Looks absolutely amazing ! , escpecially first class , well done Emirates . however , Bizz was abit of a dissapointment - couldve had flat beds like BA , or SQ .....theyve finnaly changed the seat config as well.....
looking forword to fly them again ...
UA744Flagship From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (10 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 5234 times:
Emirates will be winning awards for its F product... doors, "mode controller" that includes a digital menu, and minibar, oh my!!!
While Biz is not fully flat, it was designed very efficiently. While the pitch isn't the greatest, the seat kind of flattens to an angled incline, and there are little details, like the "mode controller" and ample center console storage that add more than a nice touch.
Cx251 From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2003, 52 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (10 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 5130 times:
Oh well, for sure that first class is absolutely amazing. I really like the new curve ceiling on a A345 and the introduction of doors really make first class looks like a hotel in the air! Quite disappointed with the Business Class actually... expected to have flat bed there! Economy class is expected, coz cant really put anything new in it with the economy price. They could consider putting 2-3-2 (like SQ) instead of 2-4-2 to make the 16 hours + flight more comfortable!
Singapore_Air From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 13722 posts, RR: 20 Reply 11, posted (10 years 2 months 8 hours ago) and read 5040 times:
One could go on at lengths as to how Emirates could have afforded this and has grown arguably inorganically into a major purchaser and upcoming major player in the airline market.
However, having said that, it is unfortunate to have to concede that the standard has been set in First Class and in terms of inflight entertainment and of course, innovation.
Airlines across the world who are not government subsidised and who do have a relatively finite pool of money will have to swim deep into consciences.
One must consider however, if there is a First Class market that can cope? So many airlines around the world are pulling First Class off the menu. British Airways are doing it to six key destinations while other airlines are introducing solely Business and Executive Economy classes to their planes. There would certainly be market however, if an airline for some reason operates full schedules to Australia for example while there is a dramatic downturn in the market and having those aircraft operate at 40% capacity. Emirates is known to offer very very cheap fares compared to other competitors and it may be on its fare "structure" rather then market realism that it has invested so much in this superior product.
The sliding doors is something that I imagined would occur on the A380-842 however, Emirates has brought this thought to advanced fruition. The First Class product and IFE / ICE as a whole is remarkable. Little technical details are known about anything though. How large are the seats? What kind of leather is used? What is the seat dimensions for the Business Class seat? Will passengers cope in 33 - 34" seat pitch over 17+ hours in Economy Class? How does the airline justify that if the seat pitch is so "small" (for that length of time anyway).
Despite all this, kudos must be given where it should be given and here at the front of the plane and in the inflight entertainment department, it must be given. I being a Singapore Airlines follower can only draw some contentment that the plane isn't flying everywhere in the Emirates route network... yet.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 13, posted (10 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 4945 times:
Business Class looks like it is a 160-165 degree recline. Which is very good. The only airline that beats it is BA with its lie-flat seat.
Plus, I have to say that Emirates usually have very high standards in catering and service. In any case, these are airplanes you're dealing with - not the QE2. Emirates has sensibly designed its business class product by balancing the needs of its economy class passengers versus added room for Business Class. Those extra 2 inches in Economy go a long way to build brand loyalty.
Sq_pilot From Singapore, joined May 2000, 80 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (10 years 2 months 7 hours ago) and read 4904 times:
Well, I think he and the other die-hard fan of XXXX airlines member of * alliance blah blah blah must be disappointed. Thought they are the only carrier to offer the best in-flight product/service, no government aid, liquefied cash flow blah blah blah. On the whole they cannot tolerate …if someone else is more superior than they are.
Do not forget, when XXXX airlines announced what so-called LeaderShip fleet, new executive economy, etc… he, proud and loud shouting it out to the world for the whole world to see/listen.
the plane isn't flying everywhere in the Emirates route network... yet wait and see buddy.
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16313 posts, RR: 87 Reply 19, posted (10 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 4672 times:
Truthfully, they could have done more with Economy... but First and Business look just great.
They're also making it clear that the airplane will perform excellently - carrying 258 passengers plus 14 tons of cargo year round nonstop DXB-SFO despite DXB's extremely low density altitude isn't a simple task.
7E7 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 159 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (10 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 4561 times:
MEA, you would probably beat me in trying out this beauty. Don't forget to board early and take heaps of photos
I wonder when EK is going to start their second daily flights into MEL? Hopefully with the A345 as nonstops from DXB.
Does anyone know whether they got the approval for that yet?
One point worth mentioning here, is the drop in capacity on SYD route once they use this, going from 773's. I mean 380 to 258 seats?! Not to mention the cargo! And what will happen to SIN-SYD?!
About J class, for some reason it reminds me of their F class seating on their Boeing. Just the recline itself. It's about time they put 2-2-2!
As for Y, Teahan, just imagine the amazement of PAX who flew on B777's when they read '2-4-2 not 3-4-3', they will be like 'WAAWWW'
B2707SST From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 1362 posts, RR: 60 Reply 24, posted (10 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 4356 times:
That F-class product is amazing. I see Emirates has borrowed the 777's ceiling contour for their A345 . I wonder how crash worthy those suite doors are, though; it would certainly be inconvenient if they jammed shut at an inopportune moment.
It sounds as if Emirates isn't done yet: "The new A340-500s form the spearhead of Emirates’ $26 billion aircraft order book, along with 26 Boeing 777-300 Extended Range aircraft. These in turn will feature a special new travel experience still tightly under wraps."
Any ideas as to what this may be? I can't imagine what they will do on the A380.
Keynes is dead and we are living in his long run.
25 Gigneil: I think the 777-300ERs will be jam packed with seats, just in a more pleasant fashion. N
26 Kaitak: The new flight will replace the flight which currently operates via SIN. Instead, EK will operate a SIN-BNE flight, which will continue to AKL. It was
27 Zizou: Will the existing fleet of B777s and A330s be upgraded to fit with the new standards set by the A340-500?
28 KQ777: EK does not recieve direct UAE government money, but also does not pay tax, airport fees, etc I believe.
29 The Coachman: Anyone know the pitch in economy? Rumour is 36" though the normal pitch is 34" isn't it?
30 Ardian: This is definitely in my opinion the best first class I've ever seen! But I must say: I don't like all that (fake?) gold and walnut-design. It looks v
31 EurostarVA: Ardian, Are you calling plenty of leg room and the largest entertainment database in economy standard? I would hate to fly any other airline in econom
32 Ardian: EurostarVA: yes you're right, but what I'm trying to say is, for an innovative airline like Emirates (with the example of their new F-class), I though
33 MEA: Ardian Emirates also offers legrests in economy class on all their B777 & A330 aircraft. I assume this will be a standard feature on all future fleets