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User currently offlineBraniff1960 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 77 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6621 times:

Is American Airlines EVER going to change its current scheme?

Anybody have any inside info?


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User currently offlineDutchjet From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 7864 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6562 times:

Not likely, its one of the best recognized liveries around and still looks quite up to date.......maybe, possiblily, in the future, AA may adjust the their titles or the logo very slightly, but I think thats about it.


User currently offlineARCJET From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6429 times:

The current scheme dates back to 1969 and I hope it never goes away, it is just classic and needs not to be touched and it probably doesn't cost that much to maintain.

User currently offlineSunValley From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6408 times:

Why change something that has universal recognition? One of the top 3
in the country I think. Others being IBM, & FTD


User currently offlineAirways6max From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6404 times:

No, but I think they should. It's been around for thirty-five years and it looks horribly out of date alongside some of the flashier color schemes of competitors and international carriers.

User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6352 times:


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Nothing wrong with AA's paint scheme.


User currently offlineB4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2661 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6297 times:

AA's color scheme is timeless, and I did not like it at first, but I have really come to liking it (though I don't like AA).

I did not like the white bottom a/c they had at some point, but in general the scheme is great.

It is great from a marketing standpoint as well, the stripes and chrome are a great identifier.

I really liked the retrojet liveries on the 737 and 738, I would sure like to see them supplement the timeless liveries with special c/s aircraft - like 100th 737 (if they have that many), 25 years of service, DFW ORD JFK MIA theme aircraft, OneWorld partnership, AAdvantage program, all kinds of special color schemes would make for great photograpy, and give us something to talk about!



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User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6268 times:

I believe in the following saying, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." AA's scheme is working for them. People know and recognize it very well. The airline industry including AA is seeing some trying times. It would be a very costly endeavor to try and repaint or change the scheme of the hundreds of airplanes that AA have. It makes absolutely no sense for AA to change right now.


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User currently offlineDeltaGuy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6123 times:

Looks okay, and is certainly cheap to maintain. Unlike Delta, they don't have a million schemes running around, and the natural metal doesnt show the dirt. I think they should do a tail/logo update though, wouldnt be too too bad on cost. Give the airline a new image. (It's the in thing, dontcha now  Big grin


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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6108 times:

Who gives a shit about "flashy" color schemes? AA's is timeless, business-like and classy. I'll take the schemes of AA and CO any day for the reasons I stated. Flashy. Give me a break.

User currently offlineAn-225 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 3950 posts, RR: 40
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6061 times:

You know... the retro schemes look better than the current one. They should have more retro planes in my opinion. Other than that, the livery is timeless and shouldn't be changed.

Alex.



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User currently offlineCOEWR From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 273 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6044 times:

AA's paint scheme is quite cost effective. The reduced weight of all that paint really helps gas savings. I think it is a great, and easily recognizable color scheme and will be here for the long term.

User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1639 posts, RR: 8
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6030 times:

When you have an excellent well known highly recognized brand name and image like American Airlines it's probably dangerous to play around with it. If it were to be changed in any way I'd only do so in a subtle way much like KLM did.. perhaps letting the red cheat line ever so slightly dip below the nose, or adding the eagle logo to the engines. Nothing dramatic or flashy but just a small change to update it. American is a strong conservative airline that's not interested in flashy liveries. That's what works for them.

User currently offlineTommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6936 posts, RR: 9
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6024 times:

Its the most recognized and grand color scheme. AA please dont change it!


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User currently offlineVRG772 From Brazil, joined Oct 2003, 124 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 6012 times:

AA's color scheme should not be changed... It's like a tradition for AA, and even if it wasn't, is very up to date.
Is probably the easiest airline to be recognized by anyone... And I think very nice to keep a livery for many years instead of been changing it many times.


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User currently offlineSPLOBKrakow From Poland, joined Sep 2003, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5948 times:

In general I like the paint sheme. But I think there is room for some improvments. First of lets paint the engines the same colour as the rest of the plane. Same goes for the bottom part of the nose cone. I think the tail would look a lot better if it was silver (or metal)also.


Just looking at this picture of the AA 767 the paint scheme looks kind of sloppy. Like they only painted some parts of the plane. Especially when you look at the tail end of the plane just under the tail. And around the main wings.



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User currently offlineVS340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5821 times:

The bare metal looks good, very retro, as long as they keep it shiny. But they should consider maybe do something a little different with the tail, spice it up a bit to give it a little more modern look.

What are they going to do when planes like the 7E7 come out, since they will be mostly composite it would be pretty hard to keep the bare metal livery


User currently offlineNwacrew From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 5778 times:

There is a large, very beautiful 1930's-era American Airlines logo depicting an eagle within a circle, mounted on the front of AA's cargo facility at LaGuardia. I've long thought that retro logo would look terrific on the tails of American's fleet...

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 18, posted (11 years 2 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5744 times:

i heard that not having to repaint their aircraft every year saves AA about 300,000 US Dollars annually. Can anyone confirm/refute this?

I think it looks good. No need for change. And I do like AA too. Really quite good.

Although I think an A320 would look, in the words of a stewardess...so cute! in the AA colour scheme.



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User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2297 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (11 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5605 times:

SPLOBrakow:

The parts of the airlplane you say should be painted the same color are all made of composites, ie, there is no metal to be polished and left natural. Composites require paint, hence the gray, I suppose AA could paint those parts with a metalic silver paint, but they simply can't polish them like they can the aluminum skin. You can find in the archive pictures of AA's A300s once painted entirely gray. There was concern from Airbus that simply polishing the fuselage would not provide the anti-corrosion properties you get from paint. The A300s were painted entirely gray until Airbus and AA determined that polishing the fuselage would work just fine.



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User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (11 years 2 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 5574 times:

IMHO the answer is no. Why should AA go through the expense and trouble of changing a perfectly good paint scheme.

User currently offlineDsuairptman From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 2 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 5479 times:

There was a fourm on this a couple of months back.

I would like to see AA mix their fleet w/ the current livery and their retro jet livery , like half the fleet in one color, the other in the other scheme, just to liven things up and keep it fresh.



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User currently offlineThrust From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 2691 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (11 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5459 times:

I seriously doubt American can come up with a color scheme better than this one. It is, like many of you said, cheap to maintain, is one of the best liveries I have seen in my time, and to change it would be too awkward. However, Dsuairptman, I agree with you that the retrojet liver is gorgeous. It is even shinier than the current one. I really like the American 737 and 757 retrojets, but I think that I am quite satisfied with their current one. It is hard for me to imagine a better livery for American than the current one. It doesn't make sense, anyway, to have to pay for the expenses of repainting their planes. What I would like to see are the American Eagle planes repainted in the silver fuselage colours. I am perfectly satisfied with American's livery now, and I don't expect them to change it anytime soon.


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User currently offlineQantasguy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 164 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5404 times:

I especially like the Red White and Blue cheat lines and the tail logo. They're timeless, and very patriotic for the National carrier (at least by name). I would paint the fuselage white, or maybe the engine grey. I know that when you add a coat of paint to the entire aircraft, you add a degree of weight, but other airlines do, and still make money.


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User currently offlineAloha717200 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4525 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (11 years 2 months 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5355 times:

I dont think American's scheme should be changed at all. A scheme doesnt have to be less than 5 years old in order to look good. I always wonder why people look at a classic theme that's been around for generations and feel the need to see it changed. Often when an airline changes it's scheme, the new one is worse than the old one, so why mess with a good thing?

AA's scheme is really attractive...as a kid I always noticed the AA jets at the airport more than any others because of how shiny and nice they looked. The red white and blue scheme always made me want to fly them....till I got older and discovered their fares were always too high for me to afford a trip on them. But that's beside the point.

I do, however, love the retro scheme and I like the idea of doing a good portion of the fleet in the retro scheme. Maybe 1/4 of the fleet would suffice. Half would be too much, but, I'd LOVE to see a retro Super 80 or 767 Luxury Liner. Very nice.


Here's a bit of trivia for you:

AA doesnt paint their planes. Except for perhaps the engines.

The red/white/blue stripes, the tail logo, and the "American" titles are all stickers. Very durable stickers....ever see planes parked at Victorville...missing their "Delta Air Lines" titles, but still wearing the rest of the sceme? It's because those titles were stickers.


AA chose to do their entire fleet in stickers. There's very little weight in a sticker compared to paint, and what paint there is on the engines is minimal compared to the weight of an entire plane painted.


The retrojet is also stickers. Thus fitting a 1/4th of the fleet in them wouldnt have much of a weight penalty at all.


25 Upsmd11 : It would be nice to put an MD80 in retro at least. Here in SDF we never see the 752 or 738. Only a few of the retro paint scheme would be great as to
26 Luv2fly : I thought the retro schemes were no more?
27 Flyingbronco05 : They save money every year on fuel because they don't paint their planes; they just do the three stripes. Smart I think. FB05
28 BR715-A1-30 : I think they should paint 2 MD-83s into the Retro Livery that was used on the 757. Or maybe if they get 717-223s, they should have one delivered like
29 EMBQA : It is a classic. One other reason they may not change for some time..if you look closely next time your in the jetway waiting to get on an AA flight,
30 Post contains images N844AA : I think you'd probably be hard-pressed to name many companies, much less airlines, that have gone nearly 35 years without at least a minor updating of
31 BN747 : Heck no! Keep it as is! I hated it when I was a kid...well actually cuz I hated the inflight grub they served..steak,asparagus and adult stuff! Then I
32 Rb211 : I does'nt look bad, I just wish they would polish the whole plane. That's one of the things I miss about their 727's with the exception of the radome.
33 Garnetpalmetto : Per an earlier post, Rb, not all of the plane can be polished due to the composite nature of some areas (tail for instance)
34 Bobs89irocz : NO...leave it like it is. I LOVE the AA scheme. Very nice...to me it is flashy, the bird shines like no other in the sun. I will say, there isnt one s
35 JGPH1A : I'm sorry to disagree with all the AA fans out there, but its kind of dated, don't you think. "Timeless" is a good word for "boring and unadventurous"
36 Post contains images Alpha 1 : I'm sorry to disagree with all the AA fans out there, but its kind of dated, don't you think. "Timeless" is a good word for "boring and unadventurous"
37 JGPH1A : Alpha1 - take it easy, it was just a comment. I would hope AA come up with something better than the Song livery, which is not good in my opinion. It
38 Contrails : I have to concur with most of those who have already replied. If it works, if it's recognized around the world, if there's no valid reason to change i
39 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Alpha1 - take it easy, it was just a comment. I know it was. Mine was a comment in response. And my response is that all of you who want AA to radical
40 Post contains images JGPH1A : OK I'm nuts then - but you watch, its gonna change sometime.[Edited 2003-10-27 14:57:28]
41 RB211 : Well at least they might want to change the color of the tail and the engines. Maybe dark blue with red and silver accents.
42 Ha763 : AA does not need to change anything and does not look dated. AA's logo? Look at United and Delta. United still has had the same U on its tail for over
43 Post contains images FunFlyer : Paint what Paint????
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