where are they planning to fly these aircraft if they dont even have ptvs in their bussiness class. most if not all the other airlines have ptvs in bussiness dont they? is this normal or no? im confused as to why they dont have ptvs! thanks
Aq737 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5137 times:
What makes you say that the WBC does not have PTVs? The economy class does! I'd venture to say that although many airlines (like Virgin, SQ, Cathay, JAL, etc.) are starting to put their screens on the back of seats (due to the larger sizes) the WBC for KLM features armrest PTVS.
Behramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4711 posts, RR: 42
Reply 7, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4870 times:
Do you think that it would be a wise move on Airbus and Boeing's part if they said that ALL future orders for B 744 pax versions as well as B 777s and A 330/340s and B 7E7 + A 380s must have PTVs in every seat to increase customer satisfaction? As these planes are mainly for long haul routes so having a ptv reduced boredom too and makes time fly by fast especially if you watch a long movie or maybe 2 in a row
Singapore 777 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1011 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4725 times:
Well, it might not be that good an idea since certain airlines may not be willing to pay for the maintenance costs. These things cost money to maintain, and they also cost money since the airline needs to buy the rights to screen a movie or play a piece of music on the inflight entertainment system.
Mcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 4453 times:
I'm not too impressed with KL's new 777 product. The cabin is not very appealing at all. The blue bulkheads aren't doing it for me. The J seats look very boxy - I'm just not taken with it....anybody else?
Virginia From Netherlands, joined Sep 2003, 82 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4352 times:
Have been to the sneak preview today of KLM's B777 have to admit that the WBC is 2-3-2 config what i really do regret that they have choosen for that option.
I am not impressed with that at all.Looks very plastic at the seats are not comfortable to me and indeed the PTV's are in the armrests.
For me the best row to sit is 18 behind WBC and 31 emergency exit.
Big surprise was the economy 3-3-3 but with 31 rows and one row 2-3-2 that is a lot of seats compared to other airlines.
Keesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 4263 times:
The seatpockets/ privacy screen are so high because to seat slides down forward instead of moving back. It gives the passengers behind you more space left when you want to sleep & the passenger behind you doesn´t ..
The seats as used by CX, LH and others take away the space in front of you even more because the seat back is hard top & fixed, even if the passenger in front of you is inhe upright position.
Also all the big screens flickering in the dark on the high fixed seatbacks can give a Las Vegas like look to the cabin, many passengers don´t like that all night...
The KLM/CO seat´ sleeping comfort is the same (it can go flat under a small angle). You have more living space left during day time (and then is when you need it.)
About the 2-3-2, the seats are as wide as on a 2-2-2 Airbus. The load factor in business is on average 60-70%. The seat are empty most of the times. Aisle passenger love the free middle seat next to them ...
ILoveORD From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 220 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 4 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3945 times:
"The cabin is not very appealing at all. The blue bulkheads aren't doing it for me. The J seats look very boxy - I'm just not taken with it....anybody else?"
I really like the look of the cabin; especially the blue bulkheads. I think it's an awesome effect. It makes the cabin seem warm, friendly, and cozy. I wouldn't mind at all if KLM sent some of these 777s my way (ORD)...
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