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User currently offlineAirxliban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Posted (11 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 4270 times:

Does anyone other than me feel a little bit upset that Alpha Golf is going to Barbados?

True, British Airways operated to Barbados with Concorde...but really, there are other places who deserve the honour of her presence more than Barbados. In any event, isn't the humidity down there bad for the plane?

I think it could be better appreciated somewhere other than BGI.

Any thoughts/comments?




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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 4191 times:

I sort of agree, however the Barbados Government has, with a millionaire, said they will display OAG undercover in a proper facility.
I doubt BA would have let them have OAG if they were not pretty sure this will happen.
BA will lease the Museum aircraft, having a big say in their future.


User currently offlineGordonroxburgh From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2000, 550 posts, RR: 20
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 4118 times:

Should have been kept in the UK. very little of the UK taxpayers who paid for the development of the aicraft will ever go to BGI. Even those who do in search of the Sun will not be going to see Concorde, will they?

it should have went to Duxford or Manston, or flown to East fortune so G-BOAA could have went by road to Brooklands.

BA have got this all Wrong


User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 15 hours ago) and read 4064 times:

So, where are the others going? Will those other sites selected be more deserving? I'm very curious.

a.w.


User currently offlineAlessandro From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 2 months 14 hours ago) and read 3975 times:

I think it´s because BA employees wanted to bum a last supersonic ride
to a sunny place.
Aren´t there enough Concordes on display in the UK....


User currently offlineIwantaBBJ From Switzerland, joined Jun 2002, 777 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (11 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 3950 times:
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AWspicious:

All you need to know is at

http://www.concordesst.com/retire/retirestatus.html

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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 6, posted (11 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 3919 times:

So far, only the UK Prototype and Pre-Production aircraft are on display here.
I agree that Manston would be better for the public who paid for it to see.
I suppose they are hopeful of people stopping over on cruise ships at Barbados coming to see a production Concorde.


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (11 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 3870 times:

Any chance Toronto would get 1 considering Sadexcluding partisan feeling)
1)hosted many Concorde charters over the years
2)would allow many more people to get to see her than BGI?


User currently offlineEg777er From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2000, 1837 posts, RR: 14
Reply 8, posted (11 years 2 months 13 hours ago) and read 3811 times:

Well, gives me a chance to catch some rays when I go and see my baby.

User currently offlineLehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 21
Reply 9, posted (11 years 2 months 11 hours ago) and read 3684 times:

Will the engines be removed when they are in museums? Or will they be in "start-up ready" mode?


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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 10, posted (11 years 2 months 9 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

I expect the engines will be removed, now trying to get ALL the fuel and hydraulic fliud out of a Concorde, that will be a challenge!

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 11, posted (11 years 2 months 6 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

I am very sorry for you who feel that BGI doesn't deserve a Concorde. THey were the only destination other than JFK that had scheduled Concorde service. THat is reason enough. This region of the world is popular with BA anyhow. I think BGI does deserve one. And even before it was retired the government of BGI, was in talks about having one on display in memory of her flights to BGI. The last flight was a great celebration of mix feelings with many celebs riding her into the sun one last time...

Good show for BGI



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User currently offlineJkent95 From Canada, joined Aug 1999, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (11 years 2 months 5 hours ago) and read 3459 times:

I can't believe it's been four weeks since I saw OAG scream over my head on its last approach to YYZ. I've had very few sightings of a Concorde in flight over the years but one of the most memorable and unexpected was in Barbados. It was at the end of a cruise and while standing on the deck of the ship I heard a huge roar. I looked up to see a Concorde turning overhead on its approach to BGI. What a sight. Later, while waiting for my flight back to YYZ, I watched the same aircraft depart for its return flight to LHR. I think it is quite fitting for BGI to be a recipient of one of these unique aircraft.



User currently offline9V-SVE From Singapore, joined Nov 2001, 2066 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (11 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 3451 times:

I am very sorry for you who feel that BGI doesn't deserve a Concorde. THey were the only destination other than JFK that had scheduled Concorde service. THat is reason enough. This region of the world is popular with BA anyhow. I think BGI does deserve one. And even before it was retired the government of BGI, was in talks about having one on display in memory of her flights to BGI. The last flight was a great celebration of mix feelings with many celebs riding her into the sun one last time...

Off the top of my head, I can think of Washington, Miami, Rio de Janerio, Dakar, Bahrain, and Singapore than had scheduled Concorde service one time or another besides New York and Barbados..


User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (11 years 2 months 4 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

WHAT DO YOU MEAN OTHER PLACES DESERVE THE CONCORDE ABOVE BGI!!!!


Concorde will be the center piece of the improved Grantley Adams International Airport
Dont hate congratulate. A small island ,the number 1 developing country in the world is going to be the home of the civilian aircraft that was in a class by it self.


PS before we got the plane BA made sure that we would have the facillities to keep the plane in good condition.

As for those who want to come and see her.
Daily LGW to BGI via BA 772 along with a Sat LHR BGI 747
Daily LGW to BGI via VS 744
Mon, Thurs and Sat LHR to BGI via BWIA 343

Daily flights from JFK via BWIA Air Jamaica and American airlines
Daily flights from MIA via BWIA and American (which will increase them from 7 flights to 12)
Flight from Washington Dulles to BGI BWIA

Monday flight from Continetal Newark hub to BGI from dec 18th pending govt approval


Toronto to BGI both Air Canada and BWIA
Halifax and Montreal to BGI Air Canada
Mondays, Fridays, Saturdays and Sundays Philadelphia-Barbados US airways


So dont worry there is plenty airlift by which ALPHA GOLF can get nuff visitors along with sun sea and sand. I am also sure that when Queen Mary 2 comes here on her world tour her vistors will come and see ALPHA GOLF.

SO REMEMBER PEOPLE "BARBADOS JUST BEYOND YOUR IMAGINATION CALL YOU TRAVEL AGENT TODAY"







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User currently offlineJMChladek From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (11 years 2 months 2 hours ago) and read 3384 times:

Well, in the case of my tourism dollars, if I ever book a vacation to an island for a little fun in the sun, Barbados gets my nod because of Alpha Golf residing there. I think it is fitting that they will get her since she was THE jet for the jet setters. Besides, Alpha Golf right now is the only Concorde I've seen up close from a charter she did to Omaha back in 1985 and it seems fitting that she will "retire" in the sun with a group that seems genuinely willing to take care of her. Surrounded by the excess of life on the island helps keep the memory of what Concorde was alive. Of course, I have this dream that it would be nice if nothing was stripped off the plane and she was kept in a climate controlled hangar, potentially able to move under her own power if she had her important systems well cared for. That probably won't happen, but I just hope the facility they plan for it is Hurricane proof at least.

User currently offlineVoodoo From Niue, joined Mar 2001, 2104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 3225 times:

9V-SVE wrote:
Washington, Miami, Rio de Janerio, Dakar, Bahrain, and Singapore had scheduled Concorde service one time or another ...
------------

Except none of them ever made any money for long, if at all. Only New York and Barbados generated a sustained profit.

[Edited 2003-10-30 12:41:31]


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User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1301 posts, RR: 7
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3202 times:

I feel that the aircraft should stay in the UK. Not because I think Barbados doesn't deserve one, just I think the people here should have more chance to see it. I know BGI has been good for Concorde over the years, but the place doesn't even have an aerospace museum!!
Also, I'm sure that BA are only sending them places where they believe they will be properly cared for, and BA will be instrumental in the upkeep and future of the aircraft, but lets say in 6 or 7 years it is apparent the aircraft is not receiving the TLC it needs/deserves. What are BA gonna do?? Fire it up and fly it back to LHR. I certainly think not?? Everyone's full of promises now....


User currently offlineBDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 3077 times:

I think EMA could of had one because the engines for Concorde are from Derby and the city is the nearest to EMA making the airport Rolls Royce's home base, and they could of put it on display at the aeropark. It wont happen tho which sucks.

User currently offlineManzoori From UK - England, joined Sep 2002, 1516 posts, RR: 33
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2964 times:

Actually the Olympus being a military derived engine is made in Bristol, right across the road from Filton... and since they're going to get one anyway....

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User currently offlineArsenal@LHR From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 7792 posts, RR: 19
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 2927 times:
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Does BA still own the Concordes even when there in the musuem?
Personally i would have liked to see OAG go to Duxford.



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User currently offlineGDB From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 13253 posts, RR: 77
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2841 times:

BA will lease them to museums, some of them did not like that, tough, plenty of others in the queue if they objected too much.
Finding homes was a fraught process, many places made claims that they had neither the funds or facilities to back up.
Some governments even got involved.


User currently offlineRIX From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1787 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2768 times:

but lets say in 6 or 7 years it is apparent the aircraft is not receiving the TLC it needs/deserves. What are BA gonna do?? - exactly. Like I said in "G-BOAD to Intrepid" thread, Barbados might well deserve Concorde, but does Concorde deserve to be trapped in a tiny island with neither aviation history nor museum? In high humidity, ..., ...? BTW, wasn't AG the last one in scheduled service? And now - Barbados??!

User currently offline9Y-ISA From Trinidad and Tobago, joined May 2001, 222 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2730 times:

this kinda of narrowminded thinking is nothing new to this forum. BGI has been a destination to the Concorde for so many years, WHY wouldn't it deserve to keep one. Barbados is referred to as Little England, and if the governments each agreed to let BGI kept one, well what's the problem? Only because BGI is an island in the Caribbean, that's why certain experts in this forum feel that it is a problem. I guess you can't get away from this small minded thinking anywhere.

User currently offlineCaptaink From Mexico, joined May 2001, 5109 posts, RR: 12
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2694 times:

"but does Concorde deserve to be trapped in a tiny island"

If put in a museum with more land mass around it, it wouldn't be trapped would it.

Please people, open your minds a little. BA decided that one of it's (Concorde's) popular destinations, will get a concorde for the memory of the service. Small minded opinions here doesn't really matter.



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25 Voodoo : Barbados gets 1/2 a million tourists a year. Concorde will be well visited.
26 RIX : "narrowminded thinking"/"small minded"/... sounds well educated and creative... not sure your arguments will work without it? "WHY wouldn't it [Barbad
27 Voodoo : "Barbados gets 1/2 a million tourists a year. Concorde will be well visited." - a good argument. But then it will be visited mostly as an exotic addit
28 AWspicious : I think Air France should have sent one to the National Aviation Museum in Ottawa (Canada Aviation Museum). Although Concorde probably never flew to O
29 Post contains images RIX : Voodoo, Las Vegas and Disneyland were for your "well visited" argument. "people in Las Vegas and Disneyland didn't fly Concorde. The UK residents of B
30 Trintocan : BGI had been a very profitable destination for Concorde for many years and so it makes perfect sense for BA to retire one of the planes there. It will
31 AirxLiban : @9Y-ISA: if this post was about small-minded thinking, it wouldn't have questioned the decision to begin with. No one said that BGI doesn't deserve a
32 BWIA 772 : Look, Yes we may be small but outside of the US Barbados is the only route that concorde made money on and that is why concorde had service to the is
33 Post contains images RIX : "Everybody would argue in favour of his or her hometown " - funny, but I was against my hometown (NY) either ... I've read on concordesst.com, though,
34 Airxliban : @BWIA772 please post that picture when you get it up. and what are you planning on adding to the museum after the concorde? Grantley Adams Internation
35 Post contains images RIX : "747 doesn't only serve Europe and the USA" - yes, but he said "both largest and fastest", which can be replaced by just "fastest"... "who think that
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