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User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3075 times:

Hi guys,

I might get a new job in LA. The thing is, I want to live as close to the airport as possible, with planes landing almost in my house. ( sorry, I love planes and the sound...  Laugh out loud ) Saying this, I also don't want to pay stupid high rents, or take the risk of being shot in the evening in my own street.
Anyone of you who can advice me to where to look for an appartment, which area/ neighbourhood?

Thanks a lot.!

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User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3027 times:

Try staying in a hotel near LAX first -- the noise is often unbearable.

User currently offlinePicarus From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3012 times:

KI911-

You're options are pretty limited given your criteria. Just north of the airport is Santa Monica and Marina Del Rey...but rents are very high. Just east of the airport...well, never mind--don't even bother. El Segundo or South Bay is probably your best bet.

Picarus


User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3003 times:

IndustrialPate,

Thx, but like I said I love plane noise. It doesn't bother me for sleeping etc etc.

Picarus,

Thx for the info. What would you personally recommend, besides my criteria and why?


User currently offlineRooinc From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2936 times:

This is a link--I hope it works--to an apartment complex right next to LAX. It's got some nice views, but will, of course, be loud. I think this is just about as close as you can get and I think--someone will surely correct me if I'm wrong--that this complex offers a better view than El Segundo (a nice city) would.

http://www.eqr.com/market/overview.asp?PropID=725

--TJ


User currently offlinePicarus From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2897 times:

Kl911-


LAX's runways are East/West. If you want to be close to the airport, then I would recommend Marina Del Rey, Venice, or Santa Monica. You won't be directly under approach or departure, but you'll catch some downwind action. Hawthone and El Segundo have great proximity, but neither are under final.

The best places to live under final are Inglewood/Lennox...but believe me when I tell you you should avoid these neighborhoods.

Good luck.


User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2890 times:

Rooinc,

Wow, that's way higher rents then in France where I live at the moment. But I guess it has to do with quality as well....  Laugh out loud

Picarus,

I still need a rent I can afford as well ... Are you sure I can afford the rent there? Santa monica sounds as Santa barbara, expensive!!!!



User currently offlineAr385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6246 posts, RR: 31
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2858 times:
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I suggest you get a realtor, and explain exactly what you want. PRice, noise, views, etc. They´ll get something tailored exactly for you. I´ve moved in the states 3 times in 5 years and that´s always what I do.

AR385


User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2849 times:

Ar385,

What's a Realtor? Some kind of real estate agent? And what would be the safest, cheapest ( combination) area of LA be,

thx guys.


User currently offlineAr385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6246 posts, RR: 31
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2824 times:
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A realtor is a real state agent. The company that is hiring you can probably direct you to one. Some might charge a fee, but in the US that is not the rule. Another way is to look on the web for REPUTABLE LA realtors.

I might, I just might, get the number of a good LA realtor for you. As for your other question I really can´t answer that, as I´ve never lived in LA.

AR385


User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 2811 times:

Ar385,

Thanks a lot for your feedback. Well, ofcourse i'm interested in the number of this realtor. If you want you can mail it... Thx a lot!


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5618 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2795 times:

Santa Barbara??? You might as well be in San Diego..or Phoenix. The best solution is El Segundo period! Why? You're gonna hear every departure from the south side. 2) You can virtually walk out side and LAX is right there. 3) It's cheap, has plenty of older apartment buildings (with plenty of turnover because of people who can't stand the noise). 4) It's very safe..cops there are totally no nonsense types and pull over anything resembling the 'thug' type..even if it's just for fashion. Don't even waste time with a realtor...you're gonna get ripped off immediately. Just take the time to walk the length of the street (paralleling Imeprial Highway and runway 25L ) and before you reach the end of the street (and 25L) you'll have about 20 options/offers from landords willing to have someone occupy their spaces !

ONE IMPORTANT HINT!!! Don't even indicate you love the jet noise..they'll raise the price on that alone. That alone is the sole reason of so much turnover. The landlords will tell you that. If anything 'act' like...'Well...I don't know...I think I can put up with the noise....I'll use earplugs' and the guy may even offer an incentive, discounted rent or free month just to sign you to a year long lease and get you/anyone into the place. I am dead serious about this approach. The other neighborhoods mentioned are too far away. esp. Santa Monica. The newer apartments on the northside are nice but WAY to over priced and it seems people are constantly moving outta there too...I guess they figure why pay all this money and get all this f*n noise too!

BN747



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User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2773 times:

Thanks guys, Now it's the the problem to get my wife used to the 'noise' too  Laugh out loud Women......... talking about that, Kate, if you are reading this, what do think about aircraft noise in your bedroom at night?

User currently offlinePicarus From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 300 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2719 times:

Kl911-

BN747 summed it all up. The Northside is nice, but pretty expensive relative to area to the South. I don't know where you live currently, but rents overall in LA metro are high relative to many other cities around the world. You're easily looking at USD900 or more per month.

Another option is to do a web search for apartmentfinders.com and see if it can provide you some background information on local rental properties.

Picarus



User currently offlineAmhilde From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 643 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

I was fortunate enough to be able to stay at my friends parents condo in Marina Del Rey. Right on the beach so I could bob in the water and watch the planes take off, but when I got tired of that I could position myself on the deck towards LAX with the bioculars and watch the planes take off. That was a really fabulous weekend, but i saw rents for two bedroom places somewhre in the region of $3000 a month or so.


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User currently offlineMariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 25334 posts, RR: 85
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2663 times:
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Right between Marina del Rey and the airport is the area called "Playa del Rey."

Friends have a house there, and the only thing between them and the airport is fence.

It's much cheaper (by LA standards) than Marina del Rey.

cheers

mariner



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User currently offlineEx_SQer From United States of America, joined Apr 2002, 1436 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2630 times:

Try Playa Del Rey, north of the airport. Only problem is that access isn't great in some parts of that area.

Westchester is also just north of the airport. One of my friends who lives on 77th (I think) has a view of the terminals from his yard.

South of airport, I guess it would be Redondo. Don't think you can see many planes from there though.

Most of the time aircraft land towards the west. Unfortunately, the area east of LAX under the landing approach isn't a good area.

What job are you getting in LA?


User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5618 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 2588 times:

Marina Del Rey --wrong--why? Too far from the airport (read KI911's request)
Playa Del Rey -- wrong--why? Too expensive! It's right on the beach (again read the request)
Manchester -- wrong again...read my previous thread, it's the northside and much more expensive than El Segundo.

Why is EL Segundo so cheap? It isn't a beach community. On it's WESTside 'beach' area' it's occupied by that stinky smelly ol' Hyperion Treatment Plant on one end and Exxon's on/off shore pipeline leading directly to it's refinery right there on the beach. The city's SOUTH side is glamorous Manhattan Beach -- outrageously expensive! On the EAST is Hawthorne, (almost the 'hood') if KI911 is british white (and that's a special kinda white) and not of color (not latino or black) he may find himself (and wife) locked in his apartment and never taking the pooch for a walk. Going out to your car to get to work can be a daily dicey experience. To the NORTH lies the mighty LAX. Archenemies, EL Segundo is LAX's worse neighbor, they are constantly bitching about LAX's noise, traffic and LAX just being there! Although LAX was establish 1st...well Mines Field was. But now EL Segundo goes and opens arguably, the best 'airport park' in the US. Not much of one, but designed just to view airplanes..benches, chess tables and even (FREE) high powered binoculars to view the aircraft.

Rent for a one bedroom on Imperial street or highway (whatever the name of that street is..has to be anywhere from $750 on up. That depends apartment complex, the older it is, the cheaper. And all of them line that street (along runway 25L) from Sepulveda Blvd to the Hyperion Treatment Plant (the shoreline). Why so cheap? The noise and the smell from the plant...end of story. Every other community is either too far, too expensive or too dangerous for what the man is looking for.


BN747




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User currently offlineBongo From Colombia, joined Oct 2003, 1863 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2570 times:

Is this topic "civil aviation"? ? ?


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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5618 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2546 times:

Uhh....YEA..the guy wants to move near LAX..how much closer to aviation can you get than that?


BN747



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User currently offlineBN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5618 posts, RR: 51
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2513 times:

Bongo...I find something very strange here...you're complaining about this thread..yet you and KI911 (author of the thread) are on each other's respected list. Why would you be irritated by 'your forum pal' seeking info?

BN747

You don't have to answer if ya' don't wanna....



"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16878 posts, RR: 51
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2499 times:

Marina Del Rey is a nice community right next to the airportm with a beautiful harbor.

Other places near LAX..

Venice, Santa Monica, Hermosa Beach.

Live by the Ocean!



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User currently offlineAirVB From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 268 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 1 day ago) and read 2487 times:

I'm pretty familiar with the area...I live south about a half an hour in Palos Verdes. We have friends in El Segundo in a nice neighborhood; they have fantastic views of departures and no smell (as I've heard of) in their neighborhood. However I dont believe thats what you're looking for. THere are a lot of apartments there however, and I'll agree with BN747's post..no need to repeat what he mentioned prior. The other areas around LAX (Hawthorne, Inglewood, etc.) aren't exactly the nicest places to be, and I believe Playa/Marina Del Rey can get quite pricey. Just my two cents

AirVB


User currently offlineLeelasit From Canada, joined Apr 2001, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2451 times:

Hi KI911,

just read you posting briefly, not sure where is your new job located in LA, you may want to consider the time of driving to work too, driving on 405 and 105 freeway in rush hour could be really painful... traffic on 405 particularly bad.
otherwise El segundo would be the best bet cost wise but agree with BN747, El Segundo is definitely not the safest part of city, or try culver city, the part near Sepulveda blvd is fairly close too LAX (not as close as El segundo).

May be pay a visit to these areas first, if you're in Santa Monica, try drive along Lincoln Blvd towards airport, you will pass thru Santa Monica, Marina Del Rey, Playa Del Rey after that you will drive along the runway of LAX at the end a slight right turn and it turns into Sepulveda, if you keep going, you will pass thru El Segundo and end up in Manhattan Beach. Many apartments along these route.

Eric



User currently offlineKl911 From Czech Republic, joined Jul 2003, 5147 posts, RR: 15
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 2432 times:

Thanks a lot guys,

I didn't expect so many answers. At the moment i live in the south of France. The new job will be mixed touroperator/ airline. ( If I get the job, we'll know soon..)

Bongo,

Ofcourse it's civil aviation since that's where I work in, as do the persons I've asked this question to....  Laugh out loud

Anyway, what I understand, It will be an expensive adventure.....I thought France was expensive..


25 Matt D : Does it HAVE to be LAX? Another option...just something to consider...would be to look at somewhere near SNA. You won't get the variety or frequency o
26 Bongo : BN747: I´m not complaining about this thread and KI911 deserves all my respect, I just asked !!! I´m sorry
27 Post contains images The777Man : As a former El Segundo resident, (963 Virginia St but facing Imperial Ave), I highly recommend El Segundo. All the point already pointed out by BN747
28 Post contains images LH423 : I definitely cannot add anything that others have not said already. For what you're looking for, El Segundo can't be beat. However, I do also have to
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