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BaBoo A New Swiss Airline  
User currently offlineGreek_fspilot From Greece, joined Jun 2000, 23 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3074 times:

A new Swiss airline is starting these days...
they flies from Geneva to Lugano and Venice with a DHC8-Q300 and the name of the Airline..... FLY BABOO.....?!?!?!

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User currently offlineBoieng747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 3058 times:

Hey,


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They are starting on Monday (3 November) from Geneva to Lugano twice daily. Taking up the route which Swiss gave up on October 26th.

From November 17th they will fly Geneva-Lugano 3 times daily and Geneva-Venice 5 times per week (2 direct flights, 3 flights via Lugano).

The CEO is Julian Cook an Irish/American entrepeneur, who had previously worked with the south american Low-cost airline Southern Winds.

Flights are using a wet-leased Cirrus Dash 8-300, until early next year when the airline plans to use its own aircraft. The airline plans to launch 2-3 new destinations out of Geneva each year, which could include Bordeaux, Toulouse, Olbia, Marseille, St. Tropez or Florence.

Prices start at 69 CHF one-way incl. taxes.

Their website is also pretty interesting: .

Cheers,
Tim


User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4121 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2977 times:

Hello

Does someone have any information on the other possible Swiss startup Helvetic Wings (Swiss domestic airline)? They wanted to begin operations in late October but nothing happened and there's no update on their website.

RJ100

P.S.: Good luck Baboo!  Smile



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User currently offlineTeahan From Germany, joined Nov 1999, 5301 posts, RR: 61
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2930 times:

Always nice to see another Swiss airline.

@RJ100: Helvetic are starting as planned on November 28. I just wonder how the bookings are going with comparatively high fares.

Edited to add: Sorry to say that I misread your previous post. I saw Helvetic and just presumed that new airline started with F100s and did not bother reading the rest where you said "Swiss domestic airline" etc. I have't actually heard any news of Helvetic Wings these days. Embarrassment  Nuts

Jeremiah

[Edited 2003-11-01 17:02:43]


Goodbye SR-LX MD-11 / 6th of March 1991 to the 31st of October 2004
User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4121 posts, RR: 29
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2911 times:

@Teahan: That's good news that they will start soon. I heard they charge CHF199 for a oneway flight-quite expensive!

At least they are faster than SBB/CFF so this might be their advantage.

Thomas



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User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2891 times:

What a horrible name!!!! babOOOOO!!!!!!

User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4121 posts, RR: 29
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

I don't think the name is horrible. Much better than always

...Airlines or
...Airways.

Just my opinion though  Smile

RJ100



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User currently offlineYyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16307 posts, RR: 56
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

Baboo? Are they trying to attract high yield business travellers with a name like Baboo?

Good luck to them.



Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
User currently offlineRJ100 From Switzerland, joined Nov 2000, 4121 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2859 times:

No problem Jeremiah Big grin


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User currently offlineSaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1610 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2828 times:

Yeah, the name leaves something to be desired, IMHO. But those high yield business passengers don't care about the name when the price is right and besides, on that route there is no other choice. I wish them well.

I would also like to see Helvetic do something in Switzerland.

But I mostly want to see SWISS do something well because then maybe I can go back to my old job!!!  Big grin



smrtrthnu
User currently offlineBoieng747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2782 times:

Saab2000,
was just wondering when you flew GVA/ZRH-LUG how were the loads? It must certainly be a very challenging runway to land at night and in fog.

Tim


User currently offlineAirways6max From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2772 times:

Sounds like the name of a gorilla transport. Fly Baboo Indeed!

User currently offlineBoieng747-400 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2757 times:

Baboo makes me personally think of Seinfeld. In one episode Jerry forgets to send the immigration papers of an Indian man named... Baboo.

The name of Baboo comes from the fact that the owner has a music company which is called Baboo music.

Tim


User currently offlineOD720 From Lebanon, joined Feb 2003, 1925 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2705 times:

He was actually Pakistani and gets deported.

It's a bad name but hillariously funny!


User currently offlineAirways From Switzerland, joined Mar 2001, 880 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2643 times:

Just for your information: At this time, the flights are operated by Cirrus Airliners with Cirrus cockpit crew and Baboo F/As. Cirrus is actually holding the rigths for the flights between GVA/LUG. I don't know whether Baboo will build up own operations anytime soon.

I don't have too much information right now, but I will certainly give them a try within the next weeks. I wish them all the best!

By the way, what's the newest about the other LUG startup "Darwin Airline"?

Michael
http://airsider.net


User currently offlineNwacrew From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 311 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2631 times:

Is BaBoo really any worse than Song?

User currently offlineFritzi From United Arab Emirates, joined Jun 2001, 2762 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

Is there really a need for another swiss airline?

User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2616 times:

Baboo sounds like baboon  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Let's hope they succed.


User currently offlineIwantaBBJ From Switzerland, joined Jun 2002, 776 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2593 times:
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Well' I'd say, let's all photograph this one quickly, I don't think that they'll last very long  Wink/being sarcastic

Mike


User currently offlineSaab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1610 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2581 times:

Boeing747-400,

When I flew GVA-LUG the loads tended to be quite good. I am surprised that SWISS gave up this route. As a Crossair route it was supposedly quite profitable. The road and train connections between these two cities are not very good.

The approach to LUG is always interesting. I don't want to sound morbid, but LUG can kill you if you do not know what you are doing. It is a very difficult approach when the weather is bad. The terrain is very tricky and occasionally there is a tendency for southerly winds. The IGS approach is frequently flown with a tailwind, making it tougher. It is ironic. The IGS approach is usually not flown because it is so steep. Normally we flew a visual approach for a more constant descent profile. But just when the weather was bad we had to fly the approach to the north. And what made the weather bad was the southerly winds because the weather would sort of pile up against the mountains to the north. There is no instrument approach to the south, only a visual.

It is an approach which requires special training and this is correct. It is challenging, especially when the weather is tricky. I have done a number of missed approaches in LUG.

A week ago I saw the aircraft from Cirrus doing flight training in LUG and this was great to see. They were flying visuals and IGS approaches with go-arounds, including several single-engine G/As! It was VMC so this was no problem, but a single-engine go-around in LUG is tough to fly and I have a lot of respect for the Cirrus crews for practicing this critical manoeuver.




smrtrthnu
User currently offlineDragon-wings From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3989 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2568 times:

Who came up with this dumb name?!?!


Don't give up don't ever give up - Jim Valvano
User currently offlineIwantaBBJ From Switzerland, joined Jun 2002, 776 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 2544 times:
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Thanks Saab200 for your rather interesting infos!
Mike


User currently offlineUnique From Switzerland, joined Mar 2003, 1703 posts, RR: 36
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2453 times:

Maybe they really survive and paint their planes like planned:



I'm not sure if Darwin Airlines (what a name for a swiss carrier) will ever get off the ground...


User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 2368 times:

<> You are right Unique. For me Darwin is in northern Australia where people drink a lot of beer  Smile/happy/getting dizzy and where I saw huge "Salties" (saltwater crocodiles) and from where I left on a Qantas 767 to Singapore  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
(or Darwin was the famous biologist)


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