HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 4178 times:
In addition to the Usual Flights 15, 27 and 49 from London, and Flight 75 from Manchester, there is another flight coming in from Manchester (unfortunately it is just a 742- I was kind of hoping for an A340-600 for once). Flight 79P.
They will probably all be in at once, so all of those Virgin tails around Airside 4 will look kind of cool
Airline Virgin Atlantic Airways
Flight Number 79P
Departure City (Airport) Manchester, England, Great Britain (EGCC)
Arrival City (Airport) Orlando, FL (MCO)
Arrival Time 11/01/2003 03:46 PM
Remaining Flight Time 07:08
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status In Flight
MEA321 From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 389 posts, RR: 17 Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4099 times:
I think its absolutely amazing that Virgin Atlantic operates so many flights to Orlando in one day! Above that, British Airways operates a flight of its own! Is the travel demand so great that VS and BA are able to operate these flights with such astounding frequency???
I only flew once with BA out of Orlando, it was a B777-200 and from what I can remember it was completely full. However, can anyone give me a word on how the load factors are on the remaining three (and in this case fourth) VS flights? If you think about it, the B747 can carry up to about 380 passengers...times three flights that's over a thousand passengers just in one day for VS!!
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4110 posts, RR: 12 Reply 2, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 4045 times:
It's not an extra flight. Its just because all the MAN-MCO Virgin services have been running 24hrs late over the past few days, so they're putting the second B742 on for today's to make up and stop knock on effects. You will still see 5 there though.
Chepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6103 posts, RR: 11 Reply 4, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 3883 times:
Going to MEA321's comment, there is a huge number of UK tourists coming to central Florida each year . Not only does MCO see these flights from the UK but SFB (Orlando-Sanford) also receives a great deal of flights from the UK (especially on Sats) from Monarch,Air 2000,My Travel,Brittania,European, Air Atlanta Europe, Thomas Cook- among other.
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4110 posts, RR: 12 Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3757 times:
I think the main reason for putting the second flight on today was because well it's half term and the best day to go is Saturday because you can then go for a week and get back on sunday, so Virgin Atlantic presumed there'd be more kids on the flight and if they all knocked on then they'd end up missing school on monday as that would be when the aircraft would have arrived back. I don't know what caused the initial delay of the regular service but i've heard that the B742's have been "playing up" recently, prime example is when TF-ATN (?) went tech and had to be replaced with G-VGAL for a few of the flights.
There have been a lot of delays recently, noticably Monarch long hauls. I think there was one flight that came in from Varadero into Gatwick on wednesday or thursday that arrived at 0140 the next morning. Then there were flights to Tobago and Barbados that were due to follow (i'm not sure which one got the aircraft, if any because their delays weren't as big, as opposed to the manchester one) and a flight to Holguin from Manchester. That arrived in the afternoon after the morning it was due. Its all knocked on, and thats why I'm reading MON365 Manchester-Orlando 6hrs 25mins late. Also there were two or three MyTravel flights that were hit by delays for some reason from Dalaman. The Manchester one arrived 24hrs late this afternoon. And there's also the Britannia that was due into Gatwick from Puerto Plata this morning is now expected at around 2300 tonight.
I'm not sure about Miami, when did you see it take off at 0900? It's been taking off early the past few days.
Anyway in response to Chepos post, i supply you with todays UK charter arrivals into Sanford:
13:30 Manchester - Sanford --- Britannia Airways (B767)
13:35 Manchester - Sanford --- Monarch Airlines (A330)
13:40 Manchester - Sanford --- MyTravel Airways (Most likely A330)
14:00 Birmingham - Sanford --- MyTravel Airways (Most likely A330)
15:05 Manchester - Sanford --- Britannia Airways (B767)
15:25 Gatwick - Sanford --- Air 2000 (B767)
15:45 Gatwick - Sanford --- Air Atlanta Europe (B747)
15:50 Gatwick - Sanford --- MyTravel (Most likely A330)
15:55 Manchester - Sanford --- Air 2000 (B767)
16:25 Gatwick - Sanford --- European AirCharter (B747)
16:25 Gatwick - Sanford --- Thomas Cook (A330)
That's all i can see at the moment although i'm guessing there will be another B747 from European AirCharter and some more!
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 3731 times:
I have been seeing the BA flight and the Virgin flights taking off an hour later than normal this week, but I remember that was usually the case up at DTW too during the week of daylight savings time. Europe and USA change their clocks back at different times.
I remember at DTW last year the BA and LH flights coming in an hour early during the spring right after the clocks changed. I am assuming this is the case at MCO too, but instead an hour late. I can't explain why planes are leaving really late though, but it will be cool to see the five 747s take off today.
Leezyjet From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 4041 posts, RR: 54 Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 3569 times:
I would say judging by the flight number, VS79P that it is a positioning flight. Just about every airline I know that puts a 'P' on the end of the flight number will be operating that flight as a positioning flight, i.e. ferry flight - no pax/bags/cargo etc.
The MIA flight was delayed as the Captain was taken ill so was delayed whilst another Captain could be positioned to MIA to operate the a/c back.
"She Rolls, 45 knots, 90, 135, nose comes up to 20 degrees, she's airborne - She flies, Concorde Flies"
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2592 posts, RR: 59 Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3424 times:
The air2000 757 flight into Sanford today was operating on behalf of Childflight, a UK charity, and was carrying 59 children suffering from serious or life-threatening illnesses together with their families and carers.
I doubt there were any complaints from those children that the flight was on a 757.
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4110 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 3389 times:
Oh my dear, it brings a tear to my eye just thinking about suffering children flying what will probably be their only ever flight (well return). Although i think these flights are a good idea, i just hate hearing about them, it makes me so sad
Does anybody know what happened to the other two B767's of Air 2000, G-OOAO and G-OOAM i think. Where are they? It says on various sites that they don't exist or don't fly for the airline?
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 3222 times:
There definitely were 5 747s today with Virgin, I seen them all take off over my apartment 3 miles North of MCO. Well three of the 747s took off and made an immediate bank to the northeast and were higher up on take off, but two others took off right over my apartment and heading more north/northwest and were much lower on take off.
Jmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1296 posts, RR: 7 Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3050 times:
How will Virgin react if these 742s start getting a bit unreliable? Will they be unhappy with Air Atlanta?? Not good if a sub-charterer starts to damage your reputatuion.
On a side note... can anyone explain why the MyTravel 767s have been so unreliable this summer?? How old are those a/c compared to the BY and AMM machines?? Perhaps they need a rest in the winter lol!... instead of being packed off to Indonesia!!! hehehe
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4110 posts, RR: 12 Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 2955 times:
The Air Atlanta aircraft that operate the Manchester flights are ex-Virgin aircraft (G-VSSS and one other, might be G-VBEE?). I think they are supposed to be re-registered into Virgin registrations as they are now operating the MAN-MCO flights year round.
I don't think the MyTravel B767's are going to Garuda. I know three Premiair A330's are going to Garuda from December 10th/24th/26th all returning on the 12th March. G-OMYT and G-MLJL are both going to Premair to make up for lost aircraft, while a SkyService A330-300 (C-FBUS) arrived at Gatwick at 03:00am this morning to make up for the MyTravel (UK) A330's going to Premair. There is no talk of the B767-300's going to Garuda as far as i know.
G-SJMC - Air Born 16th March 1994
G-DIMB - Air Born 28th April 1997
G-DAJC - First flew 15th April 1994
Air 2000 B767-39H
G-OOAN - Entered Service 26th January 1999 (Operated for Air UK since April 1st 1993)
G-OOAL - First Flew 29th January 1999
G-OBYB - 17th May 1996
G-OBYC - 3rd November 2000 (Been flying for another carrier since 1996)
G-OBYD - 27th April 2001 (Been flying with another carrier since 1997)
G-OBYE - 28th October 1999
G-OBYF - 30th April 2001 (Been flying for another carrier since 1998)
G-OBYG - 13th January 1999
G-OBYH - 25th April 2002 (Operated by another carrier since 1999)
G-OBYI - 1st February 2000
G-OBYJ - 20th February 2000
IflyORL From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 159 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2894 times:
I'm just wondering where you got the information about the flight. With altitude and everything, before it took off? I have flight explorer but without knowing ahead of time I would never find this information out. So where do I find out about unusual flights?
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4110 posts, RR: 12 Reply 19, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2810 times:
The flights heading Northwest were the 2 B747-200's, so they were the two Manchester flights. They were probably taking a more northerly route across the Atlantic. It was probably just the flight path avoiding traffic from other airports. Hey watch out for me next April (19th). I'll be on VS016 on the right side just behind the wing
Airchabum From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2001, 769 posts, RR: 11 Reply 20, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 2792 times:
Sometimes the flights route inland towards Charleston to join the NAT tracks, other times they route over the coast towards Bermuda, depending on forecast winds and destination. Maybe on Sat the MAN flights were planned in land.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 21, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2745 times:
I found it a little strange that they headed northwest while the other 3 headed northeast. The only times I have had the Virgin and the BA flights depart directly over my apartment or to the west of it was in the summer if there was a thunderstorm nearby to the east.
HlywdCatft From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 5321 posts, RR: 7 Reply 22, posted (10 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 2650 times:
Really interesting, today Sunday...
The Virgin to MAN took off very low over my apartment heading north northwest like yesterday...
the BA 772 took off very low over my apartment also heading north northwest,
The Virgin to LGW took off a half hour later but at first departed much higher to the north northeast, but made a curve towards the northwest as if it was trying to avoid overflying Downtown Orlando or something