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Continental 757 Atlantic Crossing  
User currently offlineDtwrunner From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 29 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15530 times:

I don't know about you but going transatlantic on a 757 is a little "iffy." Continental offers service to a few western European countries using their 752's. Anyone been on one such flight? Is the service as good as the widebody flights. What's different? What's the same? Do they offer anything different on these flights to make up for the lack of personal space? Just wondering.
Thanks,
Andrew

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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15400 times:

I don't know about you but going transatlantic on a 757 is a little "iffy."

Here we go again. Sheesh.

What's "iffy" about it? It's within the aircrafts range to fly it safely; And guess what, the "personal space" isn't much different than on a widebody-the coach seats are the same, the B/First seats are relatively the same. It isn't as wide, but that doesn't have squat to do with personal space.  Laugh out loud


User currently offlineJBirdAV8r From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 4491 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15335 times:

Lack of personal space? Uh, no?

You know, the DC-8's and 707's were narrowbodies too...funny, they seemed to make atlantic crossings just fine  Big grin



I got my head checked--by a jumbo jet
User currently offlineAV8AJET From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 1355 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15337 times:

I've taken the EWR - GLA -EWR flight, FC on the way over and coach back. The FC was very nice. In-seat IFE and a good selection of programming. FC meal was very impressive and the seat was quite comfortable. Now on the GLA - EWR in coach this is a different story. The seat pitch was awful, the food sparse and not the best, also the annoying single aisle caused horrible problems with flight attendants serving and everyone going to the bathroom!!! You could tell the FA's were not thrilled about working this flight! Also the lack of available restrooms caused a huge line! The IFE in coach had the drop down LCD screen which was hard to watch because of the "sea" of heads. These dropped down from the overhead panel where the reading lights are. The GPS moving map display was a nice touch. I would recommend FC but coach...look forward to a uncomfortable, annoying flight...sorry me 2 cents!


"To fly or not to fly there is no question!"
User currently offlineDtwrunner From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15310 times:

SOrry, I didnt mean to stir up anger. I just thought that it is not like the 777 which may have more space on board. It is smaller and I just figured that it was "iffy" because it is towards the end of the aircrafts range. Thats all. It is obviously safe becasue they wouldent use the aircraft if it wasent. I am not saying it would have problems hopping the pond or something crazy like that, just that there may be more of a secure sence aboard a 777. Thats all

User currently offlineBeltwaybandit From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 495 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15245 times:

How much more space on a 777 will YOU have? Would you turn down a trip to Europe on a Gulfstream GV? Ever see how small they are?

I would not worry about it at all. I have heard that the East-to-West trips on a 757 require a fuel stop in Gander or someplace like that.


User currently offlineDtwrunner From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 29 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15238 times:

see? AV8AJET had a great response. He has been on a flight so he gave his opinion on it. I think its pretty obvious that the 757 can make the trip...I didnt need to be told that. And I also know narrow bodies can do it. But the point I was getting at was the mental side. Do wide bodies make people feel safer? More engines? I AM NOT SAYING they are safer but some people would rather be on a 77 rather then a 75 for various "safety" reasons. (justified or not)
Andrew


User currently offlineStevenf From South Africa, joined Jan 2008, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15232 times:

This summer I was on a flight from Amsterdam to Cancun, this was on a 757.
Had to land at Montreal for a fuel stop.

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User currently offlineCO2BGR From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 558 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15197 times:

The west bound lgw-cle and dus-ewr when they flew did OCCASIONALY have to stop for fuel, maybe one a month if that and only in the winter.


There are too many self indulgent weiners in this town with too much bloody money" Randal Raines- Gone in 60 Seconds
User currently offlineFraT From Germany, joined Sep 2003, 1107 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 15146 times:

"I have heard that the East-to-West trips on a 757 require a fuel stop in Gander or someplace like that."

Not true. All the flights CO offers are nonstop. They even used to fly from DUS and BRU to EWR without any fueling stops.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 14965 times:

I absolutely adore CO's transatlantic 752 flights!

Very reminiscent of upstairs in a 744, but slightly more roomy.

Disembarking, if you're in the back of steerage and they're using 1 boarding gate, could be a pain... but nothing to get stressed over.


User currently offlineSetjet From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 1123 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14900 times:

I flew a couple of times in a B737 across the pond (in a BBJ), the experience is just thrilling. It feels a lot more intimate than in a B777 or even B747, the service is usually more personalised (with Privatair at least) and the flight is quiter (I guess less people create less noise).

User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14862 times:

I traveled Continental's transatlantic B757 service... EWR-SNN/DUB-EWR. Comparing it to other carriers, I wasn't overly pleased. In coach bulkhead row aisle, legroom was good enough. However, the flight attendants on the overnight flight left the cabin lights on the entire flight and spent much of it in the aisle. A total of four drink services, two meal services, and a couple of run throughs with the duty free is just too much for a 5 hour overnight flight.

Other than that, I just hate B757s in general.


User currently offlineCedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 8147 posts, RR: 54
Reply 13, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14857 times:

Far fewer people at baggage claim means a lot to me.


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User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 10
Reply 14, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14841 times:

I took a Continental 757-200 flight across the pond in 2000 and found it to be quite nice. Personal space was just fine, and the entertainment provided (flip-down LCD screens w/ range of audio choices) was just fine. Add to that a terrific in-flight crew and pleasant meal service, and the fact that the 757 is one of my favorite aircraft, I'd definitely do it again without hesitation.

User currently offlineFlyCMH From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 2282 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14835 times:

I was in coach, by the way, flying EWR-DUB.

[Edited 2003-11-03 18:18:04]

User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3999 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14735 times:
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I'm glad you experienced a good flt FlyCMH. ProudtoflyAA I apologize, I wouldnt want the lights on either. From the Ireland wrap-around flt I took, it seemed dark in the cabin which put me to sleep faster. The Ireland runs can be very quick, and should be sometimes quicker than EWR-SFO/LAX. How come no one complains about those. Atleast traveling to Eurpoe its night time and most people will be sleeping anyways. I look at it like this, either we fly 757's across the pond or we dont, and our international product will shrink by about 40%, so I will take it anyday!!


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User currently offlineAMM744 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2003, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14732 times:

Maybe the majors should start considering MD-80's or even BAC 1-11's for Atlantic Crossing's. Just think of the cost savings - this of course is what counts the most.

As I've already stated in another post, We've not progressed at all in over 30 years. In 1958 or 9 the 707 made it's first crossing over the Atlantic and now in 2003 !!! we still have people out there harping on about teeny twinjets crossing the pond.

Give me a break, please.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14667 times:

no offense, but the last post really made no sense whatsoever  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16885 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14639 times:

CO flies it's 757s on routes that no other airlines (US) fly year round,

They fly 757s to Lisbon, Birmingham, Shannon Ireland, and soon Edinburgh.

No US Airline flies to Lisbon, no US Airline flies to Birmingham year round, and no one else (perhaps US Airways) flies to Shannon Ireland year round, no one flies to Edinburgh.

So basically CO flying 757s across the Atlantic opens up markets that would other wise not be served, like Edinburgh.

So the 757 is a great aircraft for connecting EWR with smaller European Cities that otherwise would get no service from US Carriers.

The CLE-LGW flight is oeprated for the reverse of CO's other 757 flights, it's CLE that would otherwise not be able to support a trans-Atlantic flight without the 757.




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User currently offlineAMM744 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2003, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14603 times:

no offense, but the last post really made no sense whatsoever...

perhaps not to you but I'm sure that there others who get it.


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14526 times:

What they get, is the fact that you have no idea as to what you speak  Laugh out loud


The fact that "teeny twinjets" (as you so eloquently phrased it) can and do cross the Atlantic safely, efficiently, and regularly... speaks much for progress. That's not something that was feasible in the 1950s


User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2739 posts, RR: 40
Reply 22, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14516 times:

I couldnt stand spending that long on a long pencil! I hated my flight on UA from ORD-TPA on the 757, and that was only 3 1/2 hours! I think there two long, and narrow, and cramped.......... But thats just my thoughts.

Cheers.
Simon



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User currently offlineBDRules From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2000, 1501 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14516 times:

I am flying FI on the 752 next Friday LHR-KEF-BOS and rtn and I am not the slightest bit bothered. I sit down for 95% of the flight and the other 5%is wandering to the toilet and back. I did exactly the same on the A300 to SSH this summer and also the B747 to SYD. In the end you get a seat which is your own personal space and an isle usually no more than 2 seats away. Why does it matter to some people if there isnt another aisle on the other side of the a/c which you probably wont even walk down.

It will be fine

Stu


User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (10 years 12 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 14504 times:

and no one else (perhaps US Airways) flies to Shannon Ireland year round

Not exactly true.

DL serves SNN yearround, just not with roundtrip nonstops each way. (i.e., ATL-SNN-DUB/ATL-DUB-SNN and vice versa)


25 Proudtoflyaa : ProudtoflyAA I apologize, I wouldnt want the lights on either. From the Ireland wrap-around flt I took, it seemed dark in the cabin which put me to s
26 Coronado990 : I'm with STT757: If the 757 can open up non-stops to the "provincial" cities of Europe and by-passes the superhub, I'm for it! Support these flights e
27 ConcordeBoy : Nice and Stuttgart already have nonstop transatlantic service on a CO partner... Likewise, I would love to see CO 752s at other French provincial citi
28 Dan6681 : Last March I flew a CO 752 from EWR-BHX it was perfectly fine. The Cabin Crew were very friendly, my only complaint was the 31 in seat pitch. On the
29 Jhooper : The 757 is a darn fine versitile airplane and I'm sad to see it end production!
30 AMM744 : The 757 is more than a damn fine airplane, it's truly superb for it was designed for - short to medium routes. I adore the 757 like the next guy but r
31 Artsyman : Rather than criticising Continental for using the 757 in the off-season to Glasgow, why not thank them for being the ONLY carrier that bothers to fly
32 CV990 : Hi! Continental is infact the only US airline to fly to Portugal. We used to have at least two, both wide-body flights, then one, still wide-body and
33 N766UA : I've spent 5 hours in economy on a 737 and done just fine, I don't see why you can't spend 7 hours on a 757. A friend of mine flew ORD-SEA on a 777 an
34 Mjb69 : I flew AMS-EWR onboard a 752 back in 2001. To be honest with you, it was a great flight. THe best part was that disembarking, and luggage claim were a
35 Post contains images CVG777 : I would tend to think that passengers do gain something by flying the 757 across the pond. That something is a nonstop flight. Business travelers espe
36 Md11lover : I have never crossed the Atlantic on a single aisle aircraft, but would love to do so. One member mentioned crossing the pond on a 737BBJ, and said i
37 ConcordeBoy : especially since they also avoid customs at the larger airports and hassles related to that. Actually, it's been my experience that the smaller gatewa
38 Flyingbronco05 : Anyone been on one such flight? AA 757 from Kona, Hawaii to Los Angeles, CA.
39 Artsyman : CO's 777s feature a different seat which beats the 752's on both account. *********** Actually the pitch is the same at 31 inches, but the 777 seat is
40 Dan6681 : ConcordeBoy; Seat pitch is better on CO's 762 from by personal experience and seatguru.com. Funny though that that the source also states that CO 752
41 Iflyatldl : Didn't TW fly the 757 on some select routes to Europe before the acquisition/merger- I'm guessing out of STL ?
42 Proudtoflyaa : Didn't TW fly the 757 on some select routes to Europe before the acquisition/merger- I'm guessing out of STL ? Apparently they flew them to the Iberi
43 Boeing nut : Didn't TW fly the 757 on some select routes to Europe before the acquisition/merger- I'm guessing out of STL ? Apparently they flew them to the Iberia
44 BY188B : Spmeone made a valid point before, European cities such as Glasgow cant support a year round widebody service. UNITED/AMERICAN tried it but both pulle
45 Alpha 1 : AMM744, was one thread where you made a complete fool of yourself about narrowbodies across the pond not enough for you? Are you a glutton for punishm
46 Futureualpilot : I dont see the big deal, having flown CO's 757s on the transat service a few times. It does just fine, same as a 767 or 777 just not as wide or as lon
47 IndustrialPate : I prefer widebodies myself, but I don't think this is a big deal. I love the atitude 'flying a narrowbody is torture' - how-so? I'd enjoy either, but
48 AMM744 : Alpha 1, you misunderstood my point as before. I have nothing against the 757, it is a superb aircraft and I have enjoyed flying on it many times. It
49 Post contains images IndustrialPate : It was designed for short to medium routes, yet some airlines keep insisting on stretching this to the max, this is not IN MY OPINION a good thing ...
50 SR 103 : The North Atlantic is not a short or medium route unless anyone cares to say otherwise. Well lets see, CO flies these 757's to DUB/SNN/GLA/BHX. All of
51 Lymanm : I flew Canada 3000 back in 1997 from YOW-LGW-YOW on a 752 and it was fine, except for the seizure inducing bright red seats on C3; mind you, the same
52 BDRules : AMM744, So the A320 was designed for the same reason short to Medium haul and BA/British Med use them on flights to Tehran I belive from LHR and thats
53 AMM744 : Let me just clarify this again, the 757 was originally designed for short to medium haul sectors. If a carrier chooses to fly this particular aircraft
54 MYT332 : I don't see the issue with just one isle. Say you want to use the bathroom but the isle is blocked by a F/A serving duty free, I can hardly see myself
55 BDRules : I never said you cant say what you want. How can you be sure that the 757 was NEVER developed with long haul operations in mind????? UK charter operat
56 Worldperks : The statement above that Icelandair's stop at Reykjavik-Keflavik is a "fuel stop" is incorrect. Keflavik is Icelandair's hub, receiving flights from B
57 AMM744 : BDRules, no offence taken. I also believe that we should be able to discuss these issues in a civilized way. I really don't have anything against the
58 Post contains images Skyway1 : I have no qualms about flying the 757 long distances. In fact, I recently non-revved on a 757-200 from Chicago-Midway-Maui with a stopover in Phoenix.
59 Alpha 1 : AMM744, was the 767, or the 777, or the 747 designed for short-haul service? No, it was designed for long-haul routes, primarily. But then why, oh, wh
60 AMM744 : Nothing wrong with straight-jackets.
61 Mrb757 : Question? How long can a 752 fly without refueling?
62 Alpha 1 : Nothing wrong with straight-jackets. There is when you're trying to make an airline work successfully.
63 B747-437B : B747-437B told me of an inter-Indian route (can't remember the city pairs) that flies a 744, and is about a 2 hour flight. COK-TRV at 120 miles and 40
64 Cfalk : The point is that aircraft may have been designed PRIMARILY for a certain type of route, that is true, but that doesn't mean it cannot be used flexibl
65 AMM744 : Joking aside, I don't know why 747/DC-10's are used by some carriers on extreme short haul runs. I guess the simple explanation would come down to log
66 Uaord : I flew CO from CLE to LGW last year on a 757, it was a miserable experience. The space was tight and it was hard to walk around and stretch etc., good
67 Artsyman : Entertainment options are very limited on the 757. ***** Try flying across the pond on the widebodies of NW, UAL, AA, DL and you'll get less entertain
68 ConcordeBoy : Actually the pitch is the same at 31 inches, but the 777 seat is wider at 17.9 as opposed to 17.2 I wasnt talking about steerage... ..but in retrospec
69 Mlsrar : Seems that skyway1 brought up the point I was looking for. Since this is at least the sixth or seventh time this topic has been brought up, I'll have
70 Worldperks : Responding to the above and according to the Alaska Airlines web site, the distance from SEA to MIA in statute miles is 2685. According to the Contine
71 CVG777 : Does Continental still offer the summer seasonal Newark to Anchorage service? Thats right up there, if not longer than EWR-SNN, etc.
72 Worldperks : According to the Continental Airlines web site, only Houston-Anchorage will be offered in 2004 (someone correct me if this is an error). That route is
73 Mlsrar : Worldperks, I was basing my numbers upon the great-circle mapper, which shows those routes to be slightly different, but functionally similar. Your la
74 IndustrialPate : Try flying across the pond on the widebodies of NW, UAL, AA, DL and you'll get less entertainment than on the 757. It's about the same or better... CO
75 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Well, you still have to be pretty careful about doing that. You would not, for example want to put a normal 747 on short hour-long hops and 10 cycles
76 CRJ'sRule : Continental still uses their 757's on transatlantic flights? Weren't the 767-200's supposed to take over for them? CRJ'sRule
77 Uadc8contrail : nothin like sitting in the back of a co 757 to the u.k. and watching 10-15 people stand in line at the back of the a/c to use the lav while you are tr
78 IndustrialPate : Continental still uses their 757's on transatlantic flights? Weren't the 767-200's supposed to take over for them? Yes, they do. The B762 were always
79 Post contains images Alpha 1 : Continental still uses their 757's on transatlantic flights? Weren't the 767-200's supposed to take over for them? Not unless CO picks up more 762's o
80 IndustrialPate : LOL! They're little dinky drop-down bulky TV screens... too hard to see, anyway...
81 CODC10 : I guess you're probably better off flying NW to EDI, LIS, BHX, GLA, DUB, or SNN...
82 CALMSP : it would be great if we could pick up some leases on some 762's. Ansett has all of theirs parked, UAL has a couple in the desert. Also with National n
83 ConcordeBoy : it would be great if we could pick up some of their 757's to open up some more European markets that can't accomodate wide-bodies. CO just took four 7
84 Expressjetphx : I wonder why there are countless threads about Continentals 757 ops when ATA and United routinely make 5-6 hour flights year round on the 757 (CAlif,
85 Uadc8contrail : expressjetphx, its not a big deal......im just pleased that this thread has not gotten to wn on the phx-pvd-phx route.......now thats uncomfortable in
86 BRU : Over ten years ago, the now defunct Belgian charter operater Air Belgium used to operate Brussels - Punta Cana (and possibly also Brussels - Cancun) o
87 Fsimmer : I wouldn't mind flying across the pond in a 757, but I would rather make an extra connection to avoid it. I'm always flying narrowbody aircraft when f
88 Acidradio : Remind me again why this is a big deal? It's all because it's over the ocean. Apparently airplanes are a totally different creature once they are flyi
89 Expressjetphx : I wonder why there are countless threads about Continentals 757 ops when ATA and United routinely make 5-6 hour flights year round on the 757 (CAlif,
90 SHUPirate1 : As I've suggested, what would be wrong with US doing the same thing with their A-319's out of PHL, only they could go to even smaller markets...rip ou
91 Expressjetphx : I agree fully with you, SHUPirate1, it could be a like a wholly owned and operated version of the Privatair/Lufthansa agreement. They could serve plac
92 USAFHummer : Ah the US A319 idea...Ive already spoken my peace on that, so I wont repeat it here... Anyways, I've taken the CO 757 EWR-BHX-EWR about a year ago, an
93 SHUPirate1 : Exactly...if CO can do what they can from EWR with the 757, who says US can't do just that with the A-319 from PHL...for most of those places (probabl
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