Azncsa4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 684 posts, RR: 0 Posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3888 times:
Hi, Can anyone please fill me in on this one. I know Air France pulled out of Tom Bradley International Terminal and moved to Terminal 5. Which mean they are handled by Delta Air Lines. How is the operation being handled? I know Terminal 5 have only 2 gates the can take B744. Those gates are the same on taking B777. On some nights I see Air France B744 being tugged into TBIT. How does Air France work over at T-5. If anyone know please let me know.
American 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3505 posts, RR: 13 Reply 1, posted (10 years 1 month 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3758 times:
Air France codeshares with Delta so I'm not surprised to see an Air France aircraft parked at a terminal of Delta. I don't know anything more about this, I have never flown AF transatlantic and haven't been at LAX for 20 years, what is probably happening is Air France arrives into T5 where pax and crews clear customs and immigration, but leaves out of TBIT. I don't know LAX, but I imagine T5 has immigration and customs facilities.
It's like Lufthansa at O'Hare. They arrive into Terminal 5 because passengers have to clear immigration, but they leave out of Terminal 1 (United's terminal) because they codeshare with United.
Flyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 3403 times:
well correction to this, i was just in lax last week, on wed night at midnight, dropped a friend off for the pappettee flight, and it departed from the tom bradley terminal, on the south side, second gate from the terminal. it was suppose to depart at 1215am, i left at 1am and the flight was still at the gate
ETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2036 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3313 times:
I believe AF moved their ops last Friday- FYI 3/4 of the AF staff lost their jobs as a result of the move. I don't know how the CDG-LAX-PPT flight is going to be handled as there's no self-contained room in T5, unless the US Govt. will require the pax to clear immigration in order to reboard the same flight.
USflt1778 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 268 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3209 times:
I have heard the transit flight will continue to use TBIT, while the rest of the operation moves to T5. From AF's web site the arrivals *only* of 70 & 71 (transit flts) are at Terminal B, while Terminal 5 is listed for *all* departures as well as the arrival of AF068 from CDG.
Iflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3098 times:
I'm not positive about LAX, but I know at BOS the Paris flight arrives at the International termial, passengers deboard for customs, the aircraft then pulled by tug to the DL terminal then departs DL terminal for CDG. I'm guessing the same would be true for LAX. But then, doesn't just about everything at LAX have to be pulled by tug these days?
Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
AF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1036 posts, RR: 36 Reply 9, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3059 times:
Ia Orana all !!!
Here are some information about the LAX move...
All CDG-LAX-CDG flights, namely AF 062 and AF 068 are handled by DL employees with AF supervisors at T5. All engineers are AF engineers too. Most employees lost their jobs and the flight 070 on November 1st to Papeete was the last one operated completely out of TBIT.
As for the flights 070/071 to and from Papeete here is how they will operate.
The aircraft will be parked at TBIT or in these terminals far from everything if there is no place available. Transit pax will go to TBIT as this is where the transit lounge is and T5 can not provide the facility. Crew and LAX bound passengers will disembark at TBIT where they will clear customs and immigration. Pax and crew boarding in LAX on flight 70 or 71 to either CDG or PPT will be checked in at T5 and will board a bus to get to TBIT or a remote gate where the arcraft will be parked.
Flyboy7974 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 1540 posts, RR: 2 Reply 10, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3000 times:
AF Cabin Crew, do you know the reason for the delay for AF to PPT on wed night? I sat there for a while waiting for it to push, but finally got tired and left after 1am as the 747 still sat at the gate
BN747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 5460 posts, RR: 52 Reply 12, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2917 times:
What amazes me is how AF has a complete lock on service between Paris and America's 2nd largest city. 10 744 svcs a week and Air Tahiti with a daily A340 on the run and not a single US carrier in sight. Hmmm...strange.
The code-share crap looks neat on the surface..but a friend recently got robbed in Spain of his laptop/wallet/tickets from a hotel. And 'One World' partner Iberia basically had the attitude that..hey, we didn't issue the ticket! (BA did) Not til he got to MAD did get a little 'respect'.
"Home of the Brave, made by the Slaves..Land of the Free, if you look like me.." T. Jefferson
Azncsa4QF744ER From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 684 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (10 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2838 times:
Thanks you very much for the information AF Cabin Crew. You've answers my mystery question. I had some though about the transit pax and Terminal 5 thing. But I wasn't sure. Thank you for sharing the valuable information. I guess Air France is going cheap like us at Qantas using Terminal 4 American Airlines for custom.
AF Cabin Crew From French Polynesia, joined Sep 1999, 1036 posts, RR: 36 Reply 14, posted (10 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2733 times:
Ia Orana all !!!
a little update about AF at LAX...
We are investing money to build a transit lounge in T5 for our transit passengers on their journey to PPT or CDG.
The lounge should be up and running by early next year.
The new cabins should be fitted on the 747-400 flying to PPT by next summer.
The New l'Espace Affaires Business will be in zone A and B, the rest of the aircraft will be Tempo/Economy. Upper Deck will carry around 50 something seats for the full Y fare paying customers.
Air France has no plan to stop serving PPT as it is investing money on the route and the infrastructures along that route.
Flpuck6 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 2120 posts, RR: 31 Reply 15, posted (10 years 1 month 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2701 times:
Mr. AF Cabin Crew has provided excellent details on the updated operations at LAX. Mind you, Air France is also handled by Delta in Cincinnati (CVG), Atlanta (ATL), Philadelphia (PHL), and Boston (BOS). Crazy stuff for LAX now.
There has been a slight change in AF operations at BOS as well, I know someone asked about it ... AF now operates INBOUND and OUTBOUND out of Terminal E where all int'l carriers now operate, no more tow. Air France is still handled by Delta yet check-in is now on the AF system. Interesting stuff eh?
Iflyatldl From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1936 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (10 years 1 month 19 hours ago) and read 2521 times:
I just heard about the change at BOS a few days ago- after my original post. It make sense. But at BOS, they've been doing that arrival-move the a/c for years...at least in DL's case. Back when Sabena and Swissair were codeshare buddies(if you will) with Delta I always saw one of their a/c at the terminal.
Ah, Summer, Fenway Park, Boston Red Sox and Beer.....
Philaboy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (10 years 1 month 16 hours ago) and read 2454 times:
Silly thing here in PHL
AF flights arrive at Terminal A, (the main internation non-USAirways terminal), and depart from A Delta gate. strange but true. Also, I was in LAX on august 31, and saw a AF777 pulling into the bradley terminal, just thought i'd say that