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American Airlines Comments On NORTHWEST’S SKI And  
User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4646 times:

Since when does one airline go after another in their corporate press releases as AA has done to NW in their comment on Ski and Sun Service. Also the news release in my opinion has absolutely no value. Here is the article.

FORT WORTH, Texas ??? " American Airlines winter ski and sun service to almost 20 destinations -- announced a month ago -- is far more robust than the limited seasonal service changes Northwest Airlines announced today," said Roger Frizzell, vice president-Corporate Communications and Advertising at American Airlines. "In addition, earlier American Airlines announced 'Kids Fly Free' and 'Companions Fly Free' promotions to ski destinations through American Airlines Vacations. And we???re offering competitive low fares to the most popular ski destinations through AA.com.

"Only American Airlines can provide customers with such a wide range of destinations to choose from."

Ski destination fares and packages are available on American???s award-winning web site, AA.com, and on www.aavacations.com.

American Airlines is the world's largest carrier. American, American Eagle and the AmericanConnection?? regional carriers serve more than 250 cities in 50 countries and territories with approximately 3,900 daily flights. The combined network fleet numbers more than 1,000 aircraft. American???s award-winning Web site, AA.com, provides users with easy access to check and book fares, plus personalized news, information and travel offers. American Airlines is a founding member of the oneworld Alliance.

I don't personaly see what needs to be commented on. Let me know what you think!

Dave


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User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 1, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4627 times:

This is the third time AA has done this, once before each to UA and DL. This is a new vp at AA and this guy is nuts ... even the AvDaily mentioned that AA has taken on an aggressive PR stance.

User currently offlineCODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2391 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4584 times:

They've clearly been smart not to go after CO like this, it's stuff like this that sets Gordon off and I'm sure nobody wants to see that!

User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4543 times:

I think it just goes to show that AA doesn't know their place in the world right now. The ship is sailing but there is nobody at the wheel ie The light is on but there's nobody at home. It's probably just a matter of time before this guy is canned as these strange press releases will not make a future passenger more endeared to AA nor get someone who has or will book another carrier to change their plans based upon these press releases. They are so strange I doubt they will even get a response from the other airlines that AA has attacked.

User currently offlineGSPSPOT From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3009 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4541 times:

I for one would like to see that happen, and just see how CO retaliates.... Go Gordo!!


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User currently offlineLhr001 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 4484 times:

American Airlines... WILL NOT... be winning over the masses using their childish outlashes!

These kind of releases are completely childish and to be honest are uncalled for. American Airlines is in no shape to say such things. Perhaps NWA could come back and ask American Airlnes why American Airlines has failed everytime they try to expand in ASIA??


User currently offlineFlyingbronco05 From United States of America, joined May 2002, 3840 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4400 times:

I don't see ANYTHING wrong with this.

He is saying AA serves more destination, not that AA is better then NW.

You guys over complicate things.

FB05



Never Trust Your Fuel Gauge
User currently offlineMymiles2go From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 4381 times:

I was seeing the same thing lately, wasn't sure if it was just me that was noticing this odd practice.

User currently offlineTan Flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4290 times:

So whats wrong with an agressive PR campaign...He is simply stating that AA serves more destinations, etc. No real news here..probably better than starting a fare war none can stand.

Whats he supposed to do, rool over and play dead or say something like..oh yeah...NW is our competition and we love them flying into resort destinations also!

Each one of these guys is fighting for every pax...if somehow it encourages more vacation travel this winter to ski or sun..so much the better for the whole travel economy.


User currently offlineAA7573E From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

American Airlines... WILL NOT... be winning over the masses using their childish outlashes

Are you kidding me. First of all, the masses don't read the press release section on aa.com. Only people who people like us do. I am quite sure this is not their campaign to, win over the masses!

Flyingbronco05 has it right. The release points out that AA's service is more complete, and that they offer a broader selection of flight choices, and have in the past. They are not saying anything bad about NW.

And Tan Flyr has it right as well. What are they supposed to do, just not say a word, and let NW advertise and take up market share? Come on, it is a competitieve environment, these guys are all doing what they can do to put themsleves ahead.

And as for the light is on but nobodys home comment, it's very easy to run an airline when what you say and do has no impact, and you don't have to deal with the concequences of your actions. All of us think we have the right perscription for every airline in the world, especially, Notdownnlocked. It's not that easy when it is your real job, and not just your hobby.


[Edited 2003-11-07 20:41:32]

[Edited 2003-11-07 20:42:27]


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User currently offlineUAL777CONTRAIL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

I'd love to see AA piss off CO, not a damn thing will happen.
Gordo and his monkeys wont due sh#t.


UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineProudtoflyaa From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4178 times:

I'd love to see AA piss off CO, not a damn thing will happen.
Gordo and his monkeys wont due sh#t.


Gordo has already started to self destruct with his changes to the FF program. It's only a matter of time before his complete meltdown.


User currently offlineHighliner2 From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 696 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 4150 times:

Yep, while I admire the turnaround he pulled off with CO a few years ago, I don't think AA has to fear CO "retaliating".


Go Cubs!
User currently offlineAA7573E From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

I spend about 85% of my business time on the road. I know a lot of people that fly (flew) with CO, and they have been calling AA, and getting into the Advantage program, using their status at CO, to get the same level status for a year or so, free of charge, from AA. I think Gordon really dropped the ball on this one, and he dropped the most profitable ball in his bag. You can't piss off your high dollar / high volume PAX like that. Even WHEN they change it back, I think it will be too little to late, much to the benefit of AA, DL, and UA.

AA7573E



See you up front!
User currently offlineIndustrialPate From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 4005 times:

AA's been commenting on nearly every press release thier compeitor's have released lately... it's getting ridiculous.

User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 15, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3973 times:

I know it sounds stupid but when I here an airlines press release topic as So and So Comment on ..... I think it is something bad. For example; USAirways comment on Midway's Chapter 7 or United's statement on ACA, or Continental's comments on AA/BA alliance. Never anything to do with someone's new routes or future plans. To me its a waste of press time. Also how many other people that don't really care about the aviation industry stop to read airline news release? I doubt very many. Just my thoughts..

Dave


User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3888 times:

Like I said earlier, "The light is on but nobody is home". What I meant by nobody is the new person in charge of these very different/strange press releases. I know this is only temporary as in my 20+ years working in the aviation industry where I also have some pretty demanding decisions to make, someone higher up the corporate ladder with a half horsepower of wits within AA will see these press releases and also begin to question the author of these whom I would venture to guess is a person trying to cheer AA on and at the same time making a name for himself amongst his peers. I compare these press releases with the famous anology of a wounded or drowning dog, "Don't grab him or try to save him because he is scared and if you do you will be bit." Well AA is the wounded dog and for now is will snap or bite at anyone that approaches. These press releases are not only mentioned on aa.com but were national press releases. There have now been 3 airlines "attacked" by AA for releasing their own news. Yes it's very strange and childish.


User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 17, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 3772 times:

Like many thing's in life, it's not just what you do, it's how you do it.

Roger came to AA from HP, my only thought is that in the services or consumer products field they respond to competitor's press releases or innovations more aggressively than in the airline industry. Most people that watch the airline industry and, in particular, the news services have a good understanding of different carrier's network and product offerings. Thus, when NW introduces a new route to a city AA already serves, it wouldn't add much to a reporter to have an AA come-back release; chances are they already know that or are focused solely on what NW is offering.

Beyond A.net, this subject is creating a lot of chatter on the web and from what I've heard, within AA internally.


User currently offlineAA717driver From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 1566 posts, RR: 13
Reply 18, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3737 times:

"Those simpletons cannot possibly comprehend the brilliance eminating from Centerport, the nexus of all... er, is this microphone on...? Uh, pay no attention to the man behind the curtain..."  Big grin Just another day in the AA PR department!  Insane Big grin TC


FL450, M.85
User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3619 times:

Sorry I don't know how to post a hot link here but here is the latest and greatest from "Rogue Roger" at AA. This is strike 2 at Delta and one each for NW and UA. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031111/datu056_1.html I will keep posting these strange "press releases" as they come about. Somebody mentioned that this person came from HP, is that the airline or the computer company? Either way my opinion is that this guy is whacked and a little out of control. As I said before these national "press releases" will not endear many people to move toward AA. If they are so aggressive in the press how are they now treating their passengers and are their public contact employees now supposed to mimic this new corporate culture they wish to project to the public?

User currently offlineNotdownnlocked From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 929 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3576 times:

Here is the latest press release from DL. http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/031112/clw012_1.html I bet money that "Rogue Roger" will not address this one. I have only posted this to call your attention to and to also move this thread farther upward on the top but I would really prefer "Rogue Roger" to respond. Perhaps he can respond with a national press release with the fact that AA made $1M last quarter with how many XX millions in revenue and can compare this profit amongst all the other airlines that didn't. I would like to see it happen but I bet it will not. He will just continue to take self satisfying jabs at others while making himself and AA all the more ridiculous.

User currently offlineB752fanatic From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 918 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3519 times:

I wonder if AA would publish their 3Q results.

Any info if they will?



"Truth is more of a stranger than fiction." Mark Twain
User currently offlineLatinAviation From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1276 posts, RR: 15
Reply 22, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3502 times:

Sorry ... he came from HP = Hewlett Packard

User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3811 posts, RR: 34
Reply 23, posted (10 years 8 months 3 weeks ago) and read 3449 times:

Sorry I don't know how to post a hot link here

The instructions are here. Scroll down to the section that says "Linking and how to make links active."

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1064 posts, RR: 19
Reply 24, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3404 times:

AA has done it again. This time with DL's Crown Club in Santiago. Do they have an end point to their petty press releases. Who cares that they have had an Admirals Club there since 97. Delta simply announced that they were opening up their Crown Club in Santiago. That did not require comment from AA. They are really starting to get on my nerves. Maybe they should be worrying about their own business and not on press releases from other carriers. I don't event think that their press release even mentioned Delta other than in the heading. AA has absolutely no point to these press releases.

User currently offlineNwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 689 posts, RR: 14
Reply 25, posted (10 years 8 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

YES! This is getting rediculous
====================

American Airlines Comments on Delta's First Latin American Crown Club Room In Santiago, Chile
Tuesday November 11, 6:35 pm ET


FORT WORTH, Texas, Nov. 11 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ -- "Hola! Welcome to the neighborhood," said Roger Frizzell, vice president Corporate Communications and Advertising at American Airlines. "American Airlines opened its first Admirals Club in Latin America in 1991. We now offer customers a total of nine Admirals Clubs throughout Latin America, Central America and the Caribbean, including a club in Santiago, Chile, which opened in 1997. As the U.S. carrier with the most service to Latin America, we know that our customers value a place to work or relax before, after or between flights and enjoy personalized, professional service."
American Airlines is the world's largest carrier. American, American Eagle and the AmericanConnection regional carriers serve more than 250 cities in over 40 countries with more than 3,900 daily flights. The combined network fleet numbers more than 1,000 aircraft. American's award-winning Web site, AA.com, provides users with easy access to check and book fares, plus personalized news, information and travel offers. American Airlines is a founding member of the oneworld Alliance.

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