Ual747 From United States, joined Dec 1999, 6542 posts, RR: 35 Posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2241 times:
What will it be? I want to be on it.
Secondly, does anyone have a picture or drawing comparing the size of the a380 to the 747? I know there was a digitally enhanced pic floating around somewhere.
Lufthansa From Christmas Island, joined May 1999, 2263 posts, RR: 11 Reply 1, posted (6 years 1 month 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2214 times:
Im only speculating here of course, but I would bet my bottom dollar that the first flight will be a service inbetween London and Sydney via dubai. Which leg gets to fly first I wouldn't have a clue.... but this is definately the route this aircraft was intended to and one which this airline is agressively persuing!
That will be ofcourse on Emirates.
Following this, I would also expect Singapore Airlines to introduce London - Sydney services via Singapore also as their prime route!
This is what has forced Qantas into the Airbus camp..... Sydney and LHR are gonna be big A380 ports. After this, my next guess will be Virgin Atlantic will do LHR - JFK, and Qantas will do both SYD-LHR and SYD-LAX.
When this happens, the those competing on those routes are going to be shitting their pants! The world is about to change, in no small part thanks to our aggressive friends in Dubai.... Bring it on!
Cedarjet From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 7029 posts, RR: 57 Reply 4, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1932 times:
The first two flights will both be to London - Singapore Airlines will take off from Singapore, then Emirates will take off from Dubai, and the Emirates will land first, then the Singapore flight. That way SQ get the first take off and EK get the first landing. Way to go Heathrow.
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Dynkrisolo From United States, joined Feb 2001, 1774 posts, RR: 8 Reply 5, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 1889 times:
Nope! Emirates will not be the first customer to get the 380. They are scheduled to receive their first 380 in late 2006. By then, the 380 will have been in service for about half a year. Singapore will be the first airline to operate the 380. I would think they will use the first 380 between SIN and LHR just like they did with their first 744. But airlines usually operate a new aircraft type on shorter routes for crew familiarization for a month or two. So, my bold guess of SQ's first revenue 380 flight would be SIN-HKG.
Killerbabe From Netherlands, joined Aug 2003, 186 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 1731 times:
SQ And BA biggest competitor in the LHR-SD route is Malaysia Airlines with a stop at KUL. They too ordered the A380 and they will use them to on these bussy routes
RayChuang From United States, joined Jun 2000, 7113 posts, RR: 9 Reply 8, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1529 times:
My guess is that SQ will use the A380-800 on a relatively short route like SIN-HKG-SIN to "shake down" the plane and start familiarizing flight crews, cabin crews and ground crews to the plane. SQ's first long route for the A388 will be SIN-LHR, where the seating capacity is much appreciated; SQ's second route for the A388 will probably be SIN-HKG-SFO-HKG-SIN, the SQ 001/002 route (and SQ's most lucrative route). This is why I expect the A388 prototype(s) to make a number of visits to SFO, since SQ will likely be using the plane flying to SFO by the late spring of 2006.
RiverVisualNYC From United States, joined Nov 2003, 930 posts, RR: 5 Reply 9, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1496 times:
Kind of sad that no US passenger airline is even in a position to consider the A380 anytime soon. Consider this. It will be the first time in history, if memory serves me correctly, that Americans will have to fly a foreign airline to experience the largest and most sophisticated passenger aircraft in the world. Only time will tell whether building the 380 was a good economic decision for Airbus, but in terms of public relations and prestige value, this puts them in the spotlight for the next 5 years or so.
RayChuang From United States, joined Jun 2000, 7113 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1477 times:
I think there is at least one US-based airline that might be in line to get the A380-800: Northwest Airlines.
The reason is simple: transpacific routes from MSP and DTW (and possibly SEA). NW's fleet will probably be quite small, since the A388 will be used on routes to NRT, PEK and PVG.
Paddy From Taiwan Region, joined Jul 2003, 390 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1321 times:
RayChuang: while I agree that it would be useful for them, I don't see NW purchasing the A380 until it proves itself on the market. And at that point, who knows what state the US aviation industry will be in. Other US majors could be buying them as well if they are a proven success. You also have to consider Boeing's proposed "747E7". Might end up being a more economical plane for all we know. I'm curious to see what happens with jumbos in the next ten years. The A380 certainly is exciting....
Thrust From United States, joined Sep 2003, 2428 posts, RR: 24 Reply 14, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1204 times:
Yeah, but it's in my "Boeing Giant Jetliners" book. It was made several years ago, so the blueprint is of the Airbus A3XX. This was made before 1997. Anyway, I am guessing the A3XX is the formal name of the A380. The A3XX, like the A380, is a complete double-decker, has four-engines, and is as big as the 747, . The aircraft has a wingspan of 260 ft., over 45 feet larger than the 747-400. The -100 version, if Airbus still plans to produce it, has a wing span of 254 ft., roughly equal to the length of a 747 fuselage. The -200 version, again, if Airbus still plans to produce it, has a wingspan of 254 ft, and a height of 79.7 ft. It's length surpasses all active versions of the 747. UAL 747, buy this book (GIANT JETLINERS), by Guy Norris and Mark Wagner. It compares the A3XX (now the A380) blueprints to Basically, put briefly, the A380 is superior in all characteristics to the 747, with a much greater wingspan, and a much greater length and height. According to these blueprints, had Boeing decided to produce the 747-500 and 747-600, it would have given effective competition to the A380, that is, if the A380 retained these designs. I think Boeing should return to the blueprints of the -500 and -600, otherwise they will find themselves overwhelmingly outmatched by Airbus.
Thrust From United States, joined Sep 2003, 2428 posts, RR: 24 Reply 16, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1185 times:
BTW, UAL747, GIANT JETLINERS also has a digitally enhanced image of the A3XX, however, I'm not sure if it resembles the one of the A380 you speak of, because of possible modifications after this book was published. I can't display it, sorry, only describe it.
Ual747 From United States, joined Dec 1999, 6542 posts, RR: 35 Reply 17, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 1118 times:
The pic I'm talking about was posted here on the forum some time ago. There was an overhead pic of a few 747's sitting at a gate, and an A380 sitting at the gate as well. The A380 was MUCH more massive than the 747.
Aussie747 From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1089 posts, RR: 1 Reply 19, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 973 times:
I was under the impression the first Aircraft will be delivered to Singapore Airlines on time around March / April 2006 with the first scheduled pax service two months later on busiest SQ Flights from Singapore to London. Singapore Airlines was always intended to be the launch customer. This is still despite the program has been delayed
Following from this Qantas is to be the second carrier with first deliveries scheduled October 2006. Emirates on the other hand although it may have ordered 41 aircraft will not take deliveries until mid 2007.
This schedule although farr time away has still not changed.
Jaysit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 20, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 801 times:
Emirates is poised to become the de facto flag carrier for India.
With the Indian economy red hot right now and GDP increasing at over 7%, I suspect that those A380s to the West will be filled with passengers originating in the subcontinent.
RayChuang From United States, joined Jun 2000, 7113 posts, RR: 9 Reply 21, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 664 times:
Ejazz,
SQ's Flight 001/002 route--if you add in the sector between HKG and SIN--is probably less lucrative than SIN-LHR. But SQ makes boatloads of money on the sector between HKG and SFO, since 1) there is a HUGE number of ex-patriates from Hong Kong living in northern California (like me! ) and 2) this route is very popular with premium-class passengers. This is why I do see SQ flying the A380-800 on SQ 001/002 as soon as they get enough A388's.
VS340 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (6 years 1 month 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 622 times:
If you can get a copy of the November Issue of Popular Science they have a pretty good article on the A380. There is a comparison drawing of the A380, 747-400, and a 737-800. The A380 definatly looks bigger with a 239 ft. length and a 262 ft. wingspan compared the 232 ft. length and 211 ft. wingspan of the 747. The 737 of course looks like a little fly compared to the other two. The fuselage of the A380 actually looks significantly wider as well.
This is pretty exciting time for civil aviation, I can't wait to see the first A380 takeoff
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) and 2) this route is very popular with premium-class passengers. This is why I do see SQ flying the A380-800 on SQ 001/002 as soon as they get enough A388's.
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