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Mexicana's Future.... Merging With AeroMexico...?  
User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4449 times:

Now that we all have read about MX ending code share agreement with UA and being kick out of Star Alliance ( http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1254933/ )a lot of things and idea have come around us.

Others said that maybe MX was invited to make part of OneWorld.

Reply 52 was about MX and AM plan to merging and getting into SkyTeam.
*** But we all know MX ordered two weeks ago the A318s..., yeah and also how can we explain the 15 new B737s from AM and 38 options more.. (via lessors not AM) so, some people discard the possibility of MX/AM... and I do also, but it would be a similar example of TAM/RG... but in the long term they could make changes in order to end again with a fleet commonality. Also, interesting/strange things are going around AM.... like Aerolitoral merging with AeroMexico. And maybe in a near future finally we are going to see AeroCaribe merging with Mexicana.

So let's imagine this scenario....
AM/MX (hope I don't forget any airport) routes:
CANADA: YVR, YUL, YYZ.

USA: SFO, LAX, SJO / MROC), Costa Rica">SAN, ATL, PDX, SLC, DEN, TUS, OAK, ONT, SJC, SMF, LAS, PHX, ABQ, IAH, SAT, MIA, JFK, MCO, ORD, DFW, FLL. / *Looks like MX will drop EWR soon. *AM will open BOS in the first q of 2004.

Central and South America: GUa, SJO, SDQ, CCS, BOG, LIM, GRU, SCL, EZE. *MX was studying UIO.. but nothing confirmed yet.

EUROPE: CDG, MAD. *And it looks like MX will enter LHR and FRA....!

MEXICO: ACA, AGU, CPE, CUN, CTM, CZA, CUU, CME, CJS, CEN, CVM, CLQ, CZM, CUL, DGO, GDL, GYM, GUB, HMO, HUX, LAP, BJX, LTO, SJD, LMM, ZLO, MAM, MZT, MID, MXL, MEx, MTT, MTY, MLM, NOG, NLD, OAX, PDS, PXM, PVR, QRO (soon), REX, SLW, SLP, SNQ, TAM, TAP, TPQ, TIJ, TRC, TGZ, UPN, VER, VSA, ZIH, ZCL.

I'm including routes from AeroLitoral, AM, MX and QA.

The fleet would turn like this:

25 Saab340s + a possible order for 15 ERJ135 (Aerolitoral)
10 DC9-30s (QA)
07 DC9-30s (AM)
10 F100 (MX) + to be replaced with 10 A318s
17 MD87s + 3 more expected. (AM)
09 MD82s (AM)
09 MD83s (AM)
10 MD88s (AM)
15 B737-7W (AM)
15 A319s (MX)
27 A320s (MX)
17 B757s (AM/MX)
07 B767s (AM/MX ) AM expecting 3 more.. 2 -300s (February and November of 2004) and 1 -200s (June of 2004). MX expecting 2 more (January and February)
Total: 179 + 15 (EMB) + 3 (MD87) and 5 (B767s) = 202 - 15 (Saab340s) = 187 aircraft in the fleet.

In terms of fleet I think it wouldn't be a problem staying with a mix fleet of Embraers, Airbus and Boeing. In the short term MD80s could get MX paint as the rest of AM fleets. Later MD80s could be replaced with more 320 buses since MX it's flying almost 45 of this type (I know AM got also 45 MD80s..) but MX 320 buses are brand new!

Now, what would it be the best name to stay with?? We have to rembember that MX got 82 years of history... one the oldest airlines in the world..... and MX has a big prescense in the US market... one of the most important markets.

So, what's your opinion??!!!.... Mexico needs a flag carrier???

Ricardo Morales - APM  Smile




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
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User currently offlineAr385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6204 posts, RR: 30
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4330 times:
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We can draw some parallels with the Canadian experience. It was a disaster. Air Canada is in Chapter 11 and people complained for years of horrible service and high fares.

But that does not have to be the scenario here.

1. When CP and AC merged LCC carriers were non existent in Canada. Now in Mexico we have powerful ones 6A, Azteca, JR, Magnicharters, Allegro, and at least three of them with powerful networks in the US. That did not exist in Canada

2. I don't believe fleet commonality is an issue. Many airlines have airbus and Boeing fleets and are ok. If it were to be an issue, use the Boeings for long-haul or high density (try to get to MTY from MEX on a Friday afternoon) and the airbus for the other routes. The other thing to do would be simply to return the ones that don't fit your strategic plan and period, you have fleet commonality.

3. The alliance to join would be simply SkyTeam



The only problem I see and this is major, are the unions. Let's se how that is dealt with.

AR385



MGGS
User currently offlineConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 4280 times:

The alliance to join would be simply SkyTeam

Is it?

The lack of a Mexican carrier would finally give CO a non-redundant purpose in SkyTeam. That, and there could be anticompetitive issues as far as having a combined AM/MX alongside CO in SkyTeam.


User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4192 times:

Ar385,

True, in case of a mergin UNIONS will be a big problem for MX/AM.

Concorde-Boy,

CO can have daily flights to 22 destinations in Mexico, but they serve with very small jets the only problem will be in the big mexican important airports such as GDL, MTY, MEx, CUN.

Well, lets see what MX announce tomorrow Monday!!

Ricardo Morales - APM  Smile




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineNAVEGA From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 741 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4173 times:

Mexicana is not pulling out of EWR in fact they are
adding flights starting December and changing to
an evening arrival and morning departure.

Mexicana, being the top carrier between the North America
and Mexico would most certainly enhance any alliance.

I hope it is with American and One World. American had
bid to buy Mexicana and if it were not for 9/11, this
would have most probably taken place.

Regardless, Mexicana is getting ready to expand and
take over as the number 1 carrier in Mexico and in
Latin America.



User currently offlineLeoDF From Mexico, joined Aug 1999, 359 posts, RR: 5
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4143 times:

Truth is that Mexico should have the number one carrier in all Latin America. Now that many airlines are merging i.e. Tam and Varig and some others are growing quickly like Lan Chile, it's time to think in our future.

Unions should think a bit. No airline, or one big airline. They think they can control everything, well they can't. If you tell them, no job for anyone or jobs for some, the latter will always prevail!

If Mexico ever thinks about an "open skies" agreement I can assure you it's Mexico's doom!

Mexicana has experience. Mexicana has a young fleet. Mexicana has destinations.

Mexicana lacks vision. Mexicana lacks leadership. Mexicana lacks aggressiveness.

If they wanted to, they could be, as stated by NAVEGA, Mexico's number 1 carrier. No questions asked! But they need to keep working on their image and service, as well as their markets.

Rough competition provided by Aviacsa, Azteca, Magnicharters and others only makes matters worse for all Mexican airlines. In the 80's you had 2 choices: Mexicana and Aeromexico. In the 90's you had around 7 choices (Aerocalifornia, Magnicharters, Aviacsa, Aeromar and Allegro). Today, you have all these choices plus Aerolineas Internacionales (now gone), Azteca, Global and the others growing quite quickly.

A lot of pressure in the market, and still growing. Azteca's and Aviacsa's publicity campaigns are giving a lot of battle to Mexicana and Aeromexico. Of course they benefit the costumer, but affects the airlines' economy. Whoever has bad management will not stay in the game!

So, I do believe Mexicana has a lot to give. But still has a lot to learn, and has to concentrate on growth and risk! Risking is the only way they can learn and earn!!!

A. De Leo



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User currently offlineAA777MIA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 686 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

Would not surprise me... After all AA invested millions in Canadian, and where did they end up???

User currently offlineGhost77 From Mexico, joined Mar 2000, 5222 posts, RR: 51
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4103 times:

Navega,

Mexicana is not pulling out of EWR in fact they are adding flights starting December and changing to an evening arrival and morning departure.

I'm glad they are staying at EWR! Afaik, MX serves EWR 4x a week, will they increase it to a daily flight???

You know if the MEx-PTY route will be back with own MX metal??? I know they code share with CM but I wish either MX or AM take this route... I just don't understand how they let CM and LAB take complete control of the route and passengers.

Regardless, Mexicana is getting ready to expand and take over as the number 1 carrier in Mexico and in Latin America.

I hope this to be true! Definetly a Mexican airline should be the number 1 in Latin America.

A De Leo,

I entirely agree with you, Mexicana needs to be more agreesive and risk.... and not only them also AeroMexico and Azteca and Aviacsa.... I once remember reading Pzurita1 ideas and saying why not Aviacsa flying to the south... not South America but why not starting with Central America. It would be nice to see Aviacsa giving hard times to TACA, COPA and LAB.

Ricardo Morales - APM  Smile




Ricardo Morales - flyAPM - ¡No es que maneje rapido, solo estoy volando lento!
User currently offlineJopavon From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 304 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4034 times:

This scenario could be interesting, although a tough one...I'll drop some ideas, but I think we can put the best of both airlines.

Brand: I'll keep MX since it's reputation outside Mexico is outstanding. AM is OK, but MX has been around for long and good...4th oldest...
Fleet: I guess going to Airbus is the right way, MX has done a good job and I suppose since AM 737s are leases, they could exchange them for Airbuses, given the fact that instead of 15 they could include the MDs in the negotiation and get a better deal.
Livery: Although an airbus might look nicely on AM colours, I would stick to MX's or a new combined livery.
Coach Service: Simply, MX (friendlier)
Business Class Short/Medium Haul: MX and AM are both OK, but I'll still offer the fresh orange juice (I hope AM still does it).
Business Class Long Haul: MX might surprise us with the cabin on EZE, but I think both AM & MX could offer a better product than other airlines. To beat long haul service to US airlines, will be easy, and europeans, I guess we can easily offer a better product. Flat beds and TV with interactive games such as SQ & LX are a must. I'll love eating chilaquiles on an Business Long Haul on MX to Europe!!!
FF: Newsletter: AM's, Name: Frecuenta I just like it...I would be very happy to have both accounts combined...many more miles.
Unions: MX relationship is much better than AM.
Management: None, they need to be more aggressive, I agree with LeoDF. Although I don't think it's a lack of vision, I think they are cautious because their finances are weak.
Routes: Once combined, eliminate a couple of international duplicates and increase capacity such as ORD, LAX & MIA. In Mexico, although coordinated, some flights are redundant. They can free planes and add new destinations.
Offices: MX's tower is much nicer (not theirs, but still a nice building on final approach to Mexico City)

I suppose I'm leaving out many ideas...I'll like to read some of yours...



Come fly Mexicana, to Mexico!
User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4013 times:

Mexicana is planning something big for next year. They will announce it on February 2004!

User currently offlineGoose From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 1840 posts, RR: 15
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 4013 times:

Ar385 wrote;

When CP and AC merged LCC carriers were non existent in Canada. Now in Mexico we have powerful ones 6A, Azteca, JR, Magnicharters, Allegro, and at least three of them with powerful networks in the US. That did not exist in Canada

WestJet was operating in Canada for four years before the CP-AC merger in 2000, almost entirely in Western markets - YYC, YVR, YWG, YEG, and so on.

But you're right - it was a disaster. AC's eyes were certainly bigger than its stomach.

AA777MIA wrote;

Would not surprise me... After all AA invested millions in Canadian, and where did they end up???

With the short end of the stick. AA wanted to purchase a larger stake in CP, supposedly in the hopes of perhaps using CP's base in YVR as a means to circumvent more congested US bases, like SFO and LAX, for Transpac routes.

However, they were prevented from doing so by caps on foreign ownership in place by the Canadian government.... caps which were instituted with AC cheering them on (they warned the government and were very public about how they didn't like the idea of "foreign carriers running Canadian airlines and affecting Canadian air travel...." - I remember it well).... caps which, now, are under review because AC wants backing from Star partners such as LH.

Unfortunate.



"Talk to me, Goose..."
User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3968 times:

Mexicana is getting ready to expand and
take over as the number 1 carrier in Mexico and in
Latin America.

NICE JOKE!!!!!!!!!! THE BEST I'VE HEARD SO FAR!!!!!!
MAYBE THEY`LL START FLYING TO ASIA HUNh???????

Sorry but MX is not even close to become one of the TOP Latin America airlines. MX basically relies on US routes and some Central America short runs.

It's presence in South America is irrelevant!!!
I'll tell you something. # 1 airline in LATIN AMERICA?????? AA LL / LIMG), Italy">ALL the WAY FELLAS!!! I know!! It sucks!!

Anyways,

I would say COPA would be the better player here..


User currently offlineMyk From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 455 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3965 times:

I heard that Mexicana will quit Star Alliance !!!!

User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 3958 times:

Not quit - get flung out. Not the same thing at all.

User currently offlinePzurita1 From Greenland, joined Sep 2002, 1393 posts, RR: 14
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 3833 times:

Two fine tunnings:

It is irrelevant the fact that MX is the 4th oldest airline in the world. KLM brand is disappearing though it is the OLDEST airline. More sound arguments should be used if anyone is willing to keep Mexicana instead of Aeromexico if a merger happens (and I am positive it needs to happen with proper antitrust legislation).

Yes, CM might have the best network in Latin America, but is not Latin America largest airline; it is RG. I am sure MX nor AM will never have such an extense network as CM mainly due to geographic reasons. However, AA is not the largest airline by its network, but by the pax it flies. The same happens to RG and could happen with a Mexican airline. MX or AM could untap large markets between Central America, Mexico, Europe, Caribbean, USA and Canada... carrying twice as much pax as it transports now.


Alberto:
I am waiting to see what MX is cooking up. So, March 2004, uh???? OK, will have to wait.

PZ



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User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2724 posts, RR: 14
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

Pzurita:

As a matter of fact you are correct. Mexicana was the largest airline in Latin America in the late 70s in terms of passengers carried. The airline accomplished this by flying a standard fleet of 44 722s.

Dellatore:

My brazilian friend, as the saying goes: don't be so quick to open your mouth. Despite the fact that they have the greenlight to merge, VARIG is not out of the dark woods just yet. It is still practically one step away from shutting down, so lets just say a prayer that it doesn't occur, cause that won't be a joke but a sad day.

Rojo:

Okay Sir, what do you know that we don't. Come on now, spill your guts... What's the important chisme?  Big grin


 Smile LatinPlane


User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3750 times:

Why is MX getting the boot from Star?


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User currently offlineMx330 From Mexico, joined Oct 2002, 828 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 3732 times:
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Rojo???
Come on man, give us a hint

Mx330



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User currently offlineFly727 From Mexico, joined Jul 2003, 1789 posts, RR: 19
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3667 times:

In my opinion such merger should not happen and will not occur. Up to now this is the very first rumor I have heard and has no trustful financial reason -yet it is turning out to be a very interesting marketing exercise for all of us-.

The keyword here is COMPETITION. Competition makes the airlines to offer better services, reduce costs and in overall be more efficient. In the other hand, as someone has explained, it would be very attractive to an investor to buy a Monopoly instead of a single player of a highly competitive industry. I hope we -users, workers and tax payers- do not get betrayed by the antimonopoly institutions by letting such a tactical move take place.

Do Mexico really need a flag carrier? Don't you think their airlines have gained a respectable reputation among the industry? Throwing that overboard doesn't seem a smart move.

IMO. NO to the merger (if that, of course, would ever be thought about).

My 2 pesos.
RM  Smile



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User currently offlineJOSEMEX From Mexico, joined Oct 1999, 1539 posts, RR: 24
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 2 weeks ago) and read 3633 times:


Ramon:

I agree with you. Unfortunately, i wouldn't be too surprised to see the government merge both carriers in order to sell them to some fat cat such as Slim, Vazquez or whatever, even if it didn't make sense.

Marcus:

A few days ago it was announced that MX was ending their code-share agreement (including mileage accrual and award redemptiom) with UA. You can read it here:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions/general_aviation/read.main/1254933/


User currently offlineRojo From Spain, joined Sep 2000, 2452 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 3586 times:

For those of you interested in an interview to Mexicana's Public Relations Director on this issue (spanish only):

http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/pls/impreso/noticia.html?id_nota=182819&tabla=notas


User currently onlineMexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 3042 posts, RR: 28
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3561 times:

I think this merger will not happen. If they did merge they will have a complicated fleet. The management and unions(MX has good relations with its unions and Am doesn't) of both will clash. The management of both airlines are going to fight for control if both were merge. Pilots and flight attendants of both are going to want to get payed the same rate as the airline that gets paid the most. I dont know if pilots at AM and MX who fly the 757 get paid the same rate.

I think Aero California, Aeromar, Allegro, Azteca, and Aviacsa will put up a fight to stop the merger. Or they might not even put a finger on it since both AM and MX are part of the same company.

If Cintra were to merge AM and MX they better get good and aggresive CEO and management. A management that knows how to run a big airline and stop the red from flowing.

Whatever MX is cooking and will have ready for early 2004, I hope it will be good. Rojo tell us what you know *takes out $100 bill*  Laugh out loud I think they should keep MX name if they were to merge  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineAlvaro From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 239 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 3532 times:

I think we are all making a huge thing out of this. MX is simply ending its codeshare agreement, that´s about it for now and we are already merging both AM and MX, saying Slim already brought it, talking about what their fleet would be like???
Seriously, let´s not jump into conclusions yet and wait for the final news.

Alvaro



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User currently offlineLatinPlane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2724 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3511 times:

I kind of more of less believe in what Ghost77 told us about that Mexicana will introduce a new corporate image next year.

Hmmm... What do you guys think? Is it time for a new makeover? I like the current corp image, its very Mexican, but in that same matter, it could be a little too ethnic. We've seen what a great professional color scheme makeover can do for an airline's image (i.e. LAN).

 Smile LatinPlane

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User currently offlineMarcus From Mexico, joined Apr 2001, 1798 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 3474 times:

It would be great if they brought back the different tails as the ones they had in the early 90's.




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25 Navega : Alvaro, Way to go... You make more sense than the rest. What no one realizes is that by United and Mexicana amicably ending their code-share, United i
26 Pzurita1 : NAVEGA and Alvaro, Exactly, the rest is mere speculation. PZ
27 Post contains images Fly727 : Good we are putting our feet back on earth again. Being 100% AM I just bought MX to change their paint scheme with an ugly one. I'm thinking about bri
28 Cx340 : Navega, Alvaro and Pzurita. . . Finally, some common sense here! I mean, someone said AA already bought MX. With what $$$? And not being able to buy m
29 Post contains images Ghost77 : ROJO, PLEASEEEEEE SHARE SOME NEWS!!!!! *** Ok, I just got home and read some kind of 'confidential news'... which also don't say to much about MX nor
30 Post contains images Pzurita1 : Ghost77, You never cease to amaze me. When you start talking about "cooling off" and "getting back to earth", you start with some news that are not of
31 Post contains images Ghost77 : LOL PZ, - Why? Are you talking about all the new us destinations??? I think those routes could be a big possibility.... why...? I studied all MX curre
32 Dellatorre : NEXT on the list of defunct airlines???? MX!!!!!!!! Face it! AM it's by far superior!!!!! Besides, kicked out of STAR, their US presence will slow dec
33 NAVEGA : Delatorre, Your obviously an AM employee and not making your airline look good as you make no sense at all in your allegations. I suggest you read a
34 Post contains images Fly727 : Cool you rockets guys !!!! We don't want another A vs B thread here nor one about funny names to call an airline (aerowrecksico, Mexicaca, Mexinaca, e
35 Mx330 : Navega: Thanks for your words, you are not the only one that dislikes this kind of people always making this kind of comments, I know some others ther
36 NAVEGA : Yes MX330 I agree. I wish they would see the significance of what Mexicana is doing and how damn great it is to see an airline who is much smaller tha
37 Mx330 : NAVEGA: I'm also waiting for the news. As far asi I know its just 4 767's. Its not that I dream too much but this whole thing has taken me to think so
38 Post contains images Ghost77 : NAVEGA, MX330, Let our friend Dellatorre bash MX. We know MX is way over AM (sorry Fly727). Just because AM flies to CDG, MAD, SCL and GRU., does't me
39 Javomd88 : Hi guys! Well this topic has been around for quite some time, and I don't get where lots of people get lost, when CINTRA said they were to be sold sep
40 Jopavon : I believe Ghost77 tried to imagine what could happen if? He wrote it when he started the topic...is not a matter of getting back to earth...it was dis
41 Jopavon : Ghost77, 1. I think CINTRA is planning on merging AeroLitoral with AeroMexico in order to make a stronger airline. 2. Looks like finally AeroCaribe wi
42 LatinAviation : According the eNews update from AvNews Latin America & Caribbean, Cintra plans to convert AeroCaribe into a low-cost, low-fare operation. Perhaps all
43 Post contains images Ghost77 : If this happens, then CINTRA is once again going in two directions: they merge AeroLitoral with AeroMexico to make a stronger airline, but they don't
44 EddieDude : Hi everyone. I am new to the website. I am definitely not an expert in the airline industry but I do find the topic fascinating and I want to learn ab
45 Post contains images Ghost77 : Hi everyone. I am new to the website. I am definitely not an expert in the airline industry but I do find the topic fascinating and I want to learn ab
46 EddieDude : Wow, very interesting Ghost77. Thanks. But there is something I don't understand. I read somewhere that MX would also terminate its code share agreeme
47 Post contains links and images Cx340 : Welcome to the forums! To answer another of your questions, US is not a UAL Corp. subsidiary. The US antitrust authorities blocked the intended merger
48 Post contains images LatinPlane : EddieDude Dude, like, welcome to the forum LatinPlane
49 Post contains images Fly727 : EddieDude. Welcome to www.plane-freaks-maniacs-aircraftholics.com errrrr airliners.net RM
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