Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
What Do These Terms Mean?  
User currently offlineGalvanAir777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0
Posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4198 times:

Okay, I know airports are 3 letter "codes" if you will, i learned that a while ago. But what do some of these terms mean?"
"AD-HOC"
"Code-Share"
What does it mean when an airline is a "Charter"...does being a charter make it different from anyother airline?
"Flag Carrier"

If there are any other common terms that stupid people like me always ask, help me out and post them here  Smile

Mike


GalvanAir now Serving Airliners.net!
8 replies: All unread, jump to last
 
User currently offlineUA 777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4110 times:

What is O&D traffic?

Thanks


User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6660 posts, RR: 21
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4067 times:

UA777,
Origin and Destination traffic ie traffic that is just going from point A to point B as the final destination instead of going there and connecting to point C.

Flag carriers are typically the state-run national airline eg Air India,Saudia.

Ad Hoc translates roughly to ''for a particular thing'' and so ad-hoc charters are usually one offs such as football charters in Europe.That's my understanding of it anyway,probably wrong.

Code-shares is basically a way of sticking your flight code on a flight operated by somebody else.Typically today this will involve multiple codes on a flight within an alliance eg BA flights to Paris from LHR also carry QF codes.However,the level of code-share integration varies.Some airlines have agreements to buy a certain number of seats on each flight from the operator eg Yerevan-BRU-LAX


User currently offlineSabena332 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 4032 times:

I will explain you code-share:

An example: Lufthansa and United Airlines are partners, United doesn't fly to Dubai but Lufthansa does, the Lufthansa flight from Frankfurt to Dubai has also an United Airlines flight number, so United can offer their customers also a flight to Dubai without flying to this city with their own planes.

A codeshare flight always has the flight number of the operating airline but also the flight number of one (or more) partner airline(s).

Patrick


User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3890 times:

A code-share not only increases the number of destinations, it allows you create an "open-jaw" booking using only one airline code which is essential in achieving any type of cheap R/T fare. In other words...a pax can fly from ORD-FRA on LH, take a train to CPH and fly SK back to ORD and guess what?...I can use a UA R/T fare quote using the code-share flights. Otherwise, I would have to book LH back thru FRA and get a cheap fare by using a LH R/T fare structure. It reduces backtracking.

US Airways is a good example of this in the domestic market. I can now fly a pax from LAX-PIT where he rents a car and drives to Chicago. Instead of having to fly him back to the PIT hub for a US Airways connection back to LAX, I can use a US/UA codeshare flight non-stop back to LAX. Works for me as long as you can still do an e-ticket.



Uncle SAN at your service!
User currently offlineFlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 911 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 3838 times:

Flag Carrrier:

This term has multiple meanings. As Donder10 states, many people use it to mean a state run national airline.

However, in the United States, the term dates back to the days when airlines were regulated with regard to what routes they could operate. Back in those days, airlines were divided into either domestic or flag (international) carriers. Pan Am was our primary flag carrier, Northwest and Trans World were secondary flag carriers. (none were ever state run)

Even today, I believe that US carriers are certificated to be Flag Carriers, that is, the FAA requires additional operational burdens on airlines conducting international operations that are certificated as flag carriers.

So, in order to understand what the term Flag Carrier means, I think you really need to take it in context. Some may be trying to imply an airline is state run when they say flag carrier, others just mean a large airline that conducts international operations.



DC-8, DC-9, DC-10, F28, 717, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, IL-62, L-1011, MD-82/83, YS-11, DHC-8, PA-28-161, ERJ 135/145, E-1
User currently offlineLoneStarMike From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 3826 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3780 times:

Origin and Destination traffic ie traffic that is just going from point A to point B as the final destination instead of going there and connecting to point C.

Just to clarify it a bit, suppose I want to fly from AUS-SEA. There are no nonstop flights, so I either have to fly AUS-DFW and then on to SEA or AUS-IAH and then on to Seattle. Let's say I choose to fly AUS-DFW-SEA.

AUS would count me as an O&D passenger because AUS is my origin, or where I am beginning my trip. SEA would also count me as an O&D passenger because SEA is my destination. DFW would count me as a connecting passenger, because I am neither starting nor ending my trip at DFW.

Daily O&D traffic on a particular city pair is important to the airline because it lets them know, on avereage, how many people per day are flying between City A and City B.

Using the AUS-SEA example above, during 2002 approximately 260 people traveled daily between AUS-SEA. Keep in mind that's in both directions. About 130 people a day fly AUS-SEA and about another 130 per day fly SEA-AUS.

Years ago, if you wanted to fly between AUS and SJC the only way you could do so was with a connection. There were no nonstop flights. During the dot com boom though, so many people were traveling that route, that AA decided to offer some nonstops between the two cities.

It's cheaper for them that way because they only have to check you in once and they don't have to pay for the added expense of transferring your luggage at the connecting point.

Hope that made sense.  Smile

LoneStarMike

User currently offlineUA 777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3727 times:

Thanks a lot, I was wondering about the meaning of O&D traffic for quite some time now. Hearing your answers makes perfect sense, it's actually quite obvious.

UA 777


User currently offlineGalvanAir777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2005, 39 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3626 times:

Thank you for clarifying all these terms for me  Smile


GalvanAir now Serving Airliners.net!
Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
What Do These Terms Mean? posted Fri Dec 15 2000 02:45:50 by Airnewzealand
What Do These Abreviations Mean? posted Fri Mar 22 2002 03:35:30 by 747-600X
What Do These Markings Mean?... posted Fri Sep 28 2001 00:34:27 by Demoose
What Do These Boeing 747 Designations Mean. posted Tue Aug 22 2006 00:28:32 by DK001
What Do These Airline Codes Mean/stand For? posted Fri Dec 8 2000 09:04:13 by QF747-SQ747
777- Xxx? What Do The Numbers Mean? posted Sat Jan 24 2004 17:51:19 by GoMEA
What Do Airline's Names Mean (i.e. Lufthansa)? posted Sun Feb 3 2002 12:43:57 by 747-600X
What Do Those Numbers Mean? posted Sat May 26 2001 06:22:13 by Gerry
Y, K, M, F, Etc, Class What Do They Mean? posted Thu Sep 28 2006 13:56:25 by Falstaff
Under What Alliance Do These Airlines Come Under? posted Sun Aug 6 2006 12:11:01 by Jumbo747