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No American Carriers Direct To The Middle East?  
User currently offlineConcordeLoss From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 388 posts, RR: 0
Posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5821 times:

Why isn't there any direct American carriers to the Middle East? Even before 9/11.
TWA is the only one that I could think of, and its gone.

[Edited 2003-11-10 04:12:17]


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User currently offlineTWFirst From Vatican City, joined Apr 2000, 6346 posts, RR: 51
Reply 1, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5818 times:

Continental flies to Tel Aviv from EWR.


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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5798 times:

Israel doesn't count.

Signed,

The Arab World


User currently offlineAA7573E From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5781 times:

Delta flies to Mumbai, even though that is not really the Middle East. They also fly to Istanbul.




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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5784 times:

Why isn't there any direct American carriers to the Middle East?

USAF had nonstop B-2 service from the US to Baghdad as late as April this year.


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5754 times:

TWA used to fly JFK-Cairo-Riyadh...

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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 6, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5752 times:

Istanbul is in Europe. The only US flag carrier service to the Middle East is Continental Airlines' to Tel Aviv. Before October 2001, Delta Airlines flew to Tel Aviv, Cairo (which is technically Africa), and Dubai and TWA/American flew to Cairo and Riyadh.


a.
User currently offlineChepos From Puerto Rico, joined Dec 2000, 6235 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5752 times:

Before 9-11 Delta operated an MD-11 on the JFK-CAI-DXB route.

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User currently offlineUal747 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5746 times:

Well, for one, I can almost guarantee you outside of perhaps Dubai, Cairo, and Tel Aviv, I doubt many Americans really feel comfortable flying to the middle east, let alone spending time there. Something called anti-Americanism is going on there, I think?

Could you imagine AA with their American flags sitting at Tehran? HA!

UAL747


User currently offlineKorg747 From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 549 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5735 times:

B747-437B , That's Not funny.


TWA was and probably would be the last company to serve the middle east.



Please excuse my English!
User currently offlineAA7573E From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5736 times:

Ask someone from Turkey if they are European. It is not a European destination.


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User currently offlineAA7573E From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 475 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5728 times:

B747-437B

That is actually very funny!



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User currently offlineMAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 33280 posts, RR: 71
Reply 12, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5705 times:

Ask someone from Turkey if they are European. It is not a European destination.

Istanbul is on the European continent. Istanbul is in Europe.



a.
User currently offlineGte439u From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5694 times:

I doubt that we are going to see any N###XX in the Middle East for sometime. The security risks are too great for US carriers to justify the flight.

However, NW did file with the DoT to offer serivce to Baghdad last summer, but this flight would probably be operated by KLM. DL, UA and AA still have rights to serve Iraq.


User currently offlineEI A330-200 From Sweden, joined Apr 2001, 409 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5674 times:

Actually, I think that B747-437B's comment was quite funny, and fairly accurate, and I find that Alpha 1's comment is not only ignorant, but foolish and childish. This is just another example of the rampant anti-semitsm that exists in the Middle East. If Michael Moore can say "Shame on you Mr. Bush" for his policies towards terrorists, then I say "Shame on you 'Arab World', shame on you!!!"


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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5652 times:

Funny, B747-437B  Smile.

Tower flew to Tel Aviv.


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User currently offlineNikibary From United States of America, joined May 2003, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5655 times:

B747-437B
That was slightly funny

I think TLV counts, CO is operating a 777 from EWR. And yes i doubt there would be other destination especialy since there are many European airlines that offer very good connections to the middle east.


User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5642 times:

and I find that Alpha 1's comment is not only ignorant, but foolish and childish.

Yada yada yada. I guess the truth hurts, doesn't it?

This is just another example of the rampant anti-semitsm that exists in the Middle East.

Anti Semitism? If anything, it should be construed as Anti-Arab, my friend, becuase if you look at my history on here, I support Israel. Better re-read what I wrote!!


User currently offlineBA From United States of America, joined May 2000, 11154 posts, RR: 59
Reply 18, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 5589 times:

MAH4546,

No, Istanbul is not just in Europe.

Istanbul is split between the European continent and the Asian continent by the Bosphorus Strait. So it is in both, Europe and Asia. Depending on what part of Istanbul you are in.




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User currently offlineMikey711MN From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1403 posts, RR: 8
Reply 19, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 5520 times:

Turkey has filed an application with the European Union.

Anyway, I think countries like Turkey are referred to being in Eurasia as there really isn't a formal boundary that identifies the two continents.



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User currently offlineIberia340600 From Spain, joined Oct 2003, 804 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5485 times:

I agree with Korg747....

B747-437B's comment was not amusing. But Im not gonna get political on here...not the time or the place.

Just my 2 cents.




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User currently offlineConcordeLoss From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 388 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5482 times:

USAF had nonstop B-2 service from the US to Baghdad as late as April this year.

Very funny. What kinda ignorant arrogant comment is this?

When I asked the question, I had in mind DXB, but sure, let's open the floor to all the other places.
But please, let's stay out of politics.

[Edited 2003-11-10 06:17:27]


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User currently offlineAlpha 1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5467 times:

Very funny. What kinda ignorant irrogant comment is this?

Why is it ignorant, may I ask? It's the truth, is it not? Some people just have no freakin' sense of humor.


User currently offlineCustoms172 From Japan, joined Sep 2003, 58 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5455 times:

I think its funny!! Dont forget the B-52s

User currently offlineAirxLiban From Lebanon, joined Oct 2003, 4518 posts, RR: 53
Reply 24, posted (11 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 5454 times:

take it from an ex-resident, while Istanbul is in europe, it is not really a European destination.

Istanbul's Ataturk Airport is in Yesilkoy which is on the european side. Most of istanbul is on the European side. in fact it is a very beautiful city with the bosphorus and all. 90% of what there is to see (istanbul wise) is on the European side.

The rest of Turkey is on the Asian side.

Alpha 1 and B747-437B's comments were accurate, if not necessarily funny to everyone.

Air Liban



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25 Post contains images Yyz717 : B747-437B was just making a harmless joke. It was kinda funny! Let's not take life too seriously. It looks unlikely that any US carrier will recommenc
26 Jimbobjoe : Well, the question specifically asks why no carriers direct to the middle east. Isn't the middle east just too far for a direct flight anyway? Well, t
27 ConcordeLoss : The thing about the not so harmless joke, is that people are dying over there on both sides, so I don't take that sort of thing lightly.
28 Post contains images PHXMKEflyer : Alpha1 and B747-437B........frickin HILARIOUS
29 Pouyazad : Ual747, I guarantee you cannot find Anti-Americanism among more than 85% of Iranians. Iran's sky and airports are safe. What causes American airlines
30 AirxLiban : so did Iran Air? didn't they operate an SP Teheran-New York. It looks like Air Canada might start flights to Beirut. if american carriers were to oper
31 Yyz717 : There is not alot of commerce betw the US and the Arab Middle East which limits the need for air travel. JFK is one of those marquee cities that most
32 Sinlock : In a attempt to answer the question. 1. Even though the U.S. has a fair size Arab population. It is very decentralized, there is no one area that has
33 Post contains images JMChladek : USAF had nonstop B-2 service from the US to Baghdad as late as April this year. Would that really count as a nonstop though since the plane didn't lan
34 Airxliban : well, there are said to be a lot of arabs in general in detroit. a lot of iraqis in san diego. Maybe Iraqi airways could get an A340-500 and start ope
35 DeltaSFO : Mexico City has a large Lebanese population. If AM got 777s like they plan to and started MEX-BEY service, would that count? After all, Mexico is part
36 Garnetpalmetto : 1) USAF had nonstop B-2 service from the US to Baghdad as late as April this year. - Hilarious comment on sometimes all too serious boards 2) I think
37 Customs172 : OK so they had a short stop over in Diego Garcia...... Oh forget it... I wasn't thinking again.
38 ConcordeLoss : I know that FedEx has regular flights to DXB.
39 Danielbk : FedEx also has daily flights to Tel Aviv.. but, i guess it doesn't count.
40 TWAL1011 : I guess most Americans have no interest in travel to the Middle East. Those who would want to get there are probably VFR and are able to fly via Europ
41 Scbriml : There is not alot of commerce betw the US and the Arab Middle East which limits the need for air travel. YYZ717, one small word - OIL. Every BA and EK
42 ConcordeLoss : There is plenty of business in Middle East, especially in the Gulf region. I recently read on CNN's website that there is about 30,000 Americans and 3
43 RiverVisualNYC : Dubai is an awesome place, with tourism growing something like 20% a year. I'm American and was very comfortable living in the neighborhood for over 2
44 Post contains images Mandala499 : *** Humour Section*** Well, the topic says American Carriers direct to the middle east... Err, aren't the aircraft carriers there... it went non-stop
45 Cospn : TLV is in the Middle East..I think many wish it was not..but it is..Arabs do live in Israel and fly on CO out of TLV , I think they like it better tha
46 Sevenair : IT seems that this is, unsurprisingly turning into a 'lets bash america' thing, which is so outdated, and quite frankly, boring. Lets discuss why no M
47 Startvalve : The mid east already hates us to the point they fly our airplanes into buildings. Why would any US Airline with half a brain put a flight into the ter
48 Cicadajet : "Lets discuss why no Mideast airliners don't serve US direct" Is that meant to be a double-negative? Plenty of Mid East carriers serve the US Direct.
49 ARCJET : USAF C-17s offer daily nonstops to ORBS from EDDF. If you like sitting with your back to the wall of the aircraft and box lunches this is the way to g
50 Scottb : First of all, most of the American carriers with the equipment to fly U.S.-Middle East flights (AA, UA, DL, NW, CO) are struggling to stay in business
51 Stewboy : I traveled to Israel and the Palestinian Territories (on CO) back in early 2000 and just found it to be an extremely fascinationg place. The people, b
52 Speedbirdyvr : "Why would any US Airline with half a brain put a flight into the terrorists back yard?" Another arrogant comment from an ignorant person. First of al
53 ConcordeLoss : Thank you Speedbirdyvr for your open mindness, you are one of the few people who make sense these days.
54 RiverVisualNYC : Speedbird, glad someone here is with the program. The points you make are the reason why European tourists are flocking to Dubai in droves, instead of
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