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User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12696 times:

First, no, I'm not anti-kids -- but how do you feel about children being in first class? Do you think it is appropriate to allow kids to be upgraded to first class?

[Edited 2003-11-10 20:05:15]

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User currently offlineBucky707 From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1028 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12587 times:

if their parents are willing to pay for a first class ticket, then by all means they belong up there.

User currently offlineCdgdtw From United States of America, joined May 2003, 200 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12548 times:

Having a right to do something doesn't give you the right to do it. Yes, those willing to PAY for F/C are entitled but put yourself in the position of the passenger who has paid thousands to have the benefits of a premium cabin. You can't work or sleep because the children constantly scream and run around, slamming the lav door and playing with the seats.
There should be a policy but airlines are afraid to piss off those willing to pay higher fares. Shame.


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 34
Reply 3, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12524 times:

This is a dilemma for the airlines. As some have noted, if the kid is paid for, then how can you really say no. But you run the risk of alientating regular full fare passengers. The business man that pays 8 grand for his ticket, wants a nce nights sleep, in order to be rested for his meeting, and if a kid is screaming, running laps aroundthe cabin and throwing a tantrum (yes I have seen all of the above), then you have 43 pissed off passengers and a handful of pissed off staff, all so that a kid can ride first class.

I am for the no kids in first class rule.
Jer


User currently offlineJplenny From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 129 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12482 times:

and if a kid is screaming, running laps aroundthe cabin and throwing a tantrum (yes I have seen all of the above), then you have 43 pissed off passengers and a handful of pissed off staff, all so that a kid can ride first class

What about adults that do this behavior in First Class. (Yes, I've seen that too)


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 5, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12472 times:

So the kid is supposed to sit in coach all alone next to complete strangers if his parents are in first??? If I had kids I wouldnt let them out of my sight like that on a plane filled with people whom I dont personally...

Greg



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User currently offlineJoleb From Belgium, joined Oct 2003, 290 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12447 times:

where do you draw the line? at what age kids are not kids anymore?

i would say if their parents or themselves pay for it by all means go for it but if they disturb the other passengers i would throw them off the plane or in the back. simple and easy


User currently offline767Lover From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12424 times:

So the kid is supposed to sit in coach all alone next to complete strangers if his parents are in first???

Who says the parents have to sit in first?


User currently offlineUSAFHummer From United States of America, joined May 2000, 10685 posts, RR: 52
Reply 8, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12412 times:

That last post was assuming the parents were in First...sorry for the confusion...

Greg



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User currently offlineJtamu97 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 658 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12382 times:

I have to agree..I am not anti kids either, but on long haul flights I always pay for business or first for the peace and also comfort. On a flight last year from Atlanta to South Africa, there was a crying baby a few rows back of me and I was in Business Class. It about drove me nuts, but I just kept thinking, well the parents paid a premium, but still it was annoying. Anyways, I think airlines should adopt the exit row rule for first and business class pertaining to kids.


Propeller, we don't need no stinkin propeller
User currently offlineSolnabo From Sweden, joined Jan 2008, 852 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12337 times:

Talking about "kids in 1st class":
Is it true that the group Oasis
are banned from Cathay, due
to pissed (drunk) as rats,
harassing other pax, throwing up
etc, etc?????
This happened about 2 years ago.

Michael/SE



Airbus SAS - Love them both
User currently offlineStarFlyer From Germany, joined Sep 2002, 987 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12317 times:

Even in the back there's people that pay a lot of money for their trip and thus, following some peoples arguments, kids should be banned altogether!
Personally I am no fan of crying babies but sometimes they need to travel with their parents. So no matter what class they travel in, they should be allowed to. After all, we were all crying little babies once upon a time.



Yours truly - StarFlyer
User currently offlineFlyingBanker From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12294 times:

I think it is fine for children to be in First Class. I know some adults that I have sat next to in First Class that behaved worse then any 4 or 5 year old. Also I seem to remember it wasn't a child who used defecated on a service cart in UA First Class a few years ago. I think the same rules apply for children, as say taking them to a nice restaurant as long as the parent is in control and conscious of surrounding passengers....or patrons for this analogy, I am all for it.

User currently offlineGerardo From Spain, joined May 2000, 3481 posts, RR: 30
Reply 13, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12266 times:

The risks of life: crying children  Insane

Gerardo



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User currently offlineJhooper From United States of America, joined Dec 2001, 6204 posts, RR: 12
Reply 14, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12261 times:

many kids sitting in first class are children of company employees. Even so, I don't see any problem with a kid sitting in first class. Why shouldn't they be allowed to, as long as they can behave?


Last year 1,944 New Yorkers saw something and said something.
User currently offlineAr385 From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 6203 posts, RR: 30
Reply 15, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12252 times:
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As a kid, I flew in First Class all the time, in many airlines, AF, BA, SAS, AR I never knew coach until I had to fend for myself (Quite a shock really). I tasted caviar when I was 4. I remember I spat it out. On another occassion, on an accident, I dropped a whole glass of scotch in a fellow passengers' shirt. My father gave him the money for it, although the gentleman was quite civilized and refused the money until he was really insisted to take it.

Once thing you need to know. Usually, even though your parents are in First with you, a steward will always keep an eye on you. Second, the things I saw adults do in those "sleeperettes" would make today's adult movies to shame. That's when the steward would come get me, usually. On a 747 we would go up and play cards in the galley

Now, next to you all who want kids treted inhumanely or taken their basic human rights away, why don't lock them in the toilet? They'll scream sure but you won't hear them.

I can't believe the things people would consider for a lousy 8,000 USD

AR385



MGGS
User currently offlineAndersjt From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 390 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12156 times:

For me, you just hope that children are well behaved in any public situation, and you hope that parents have the sense to know when it is not the right time to take kids on the airplane. From experience as a flight attendant and passenger, kids are inevitable. Whether it is coach or first class, you hope against hope that the parent will parent.

This is a true story -

This was about 3 years ago, United First on a 3-cabin 777 from Denver to Los Angeles. A mother and her 8 or 9 year old daughter took their seats. I was guessing that they were not non-rev as they did board early.

We take off, and then we reach cruising altitude. With this flight, they were short a flight attendant, so instead of 2 in United First, only the Purser was working the front cabin. As soon as the "Fasten Seat Belts" sign is turned off, the little girl is up and in the galley talking to the purser. I have to give this Purser kudos as she was very patient.

Anyway, the Purser takes our dinner orders, and then brings out the drinks and snack mix. This was back when they closed the curtains on the galley, and while having our before dinner drinks, you could hear the Purser preparing the dinner trays. The little girl is in the galley the whole time. The Purser brings out the napkins to cover the tray tables to let us know she is bringing dinner out. A few minutes later, you find the little girl carrying out the dinner trays with the Purser pointing out which seat she is to take the tray to. I was a little taken by this, and I will have to say this young flight attendant in training didn't drop a tray, but isn't there some kind of rule violation here, particularly with alcohol being served in the cabin? The passengers in the cabin politely thanked the little girl, but you could telll they were a little miffed, as I was.

Just for laughs - if children are to be allowed in first class, should they be put to work so that they behave???



Oh how I long for the day when the skies were truly Friendly!
User currently offlineCoronado990 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1598 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12089 times:

I think the question pertains to upgrades and the answer is NO!
If the pax wants to pay for it, well...it would be hard for the airline to turn down that kind of money.

However...If I could afford first class and had a baby to care for, I would definitely consider first class from a safety point of view. If an emergency evacuate took place, I would rather be in the less crowded section of the cabin where I can move around and get out quickly. Where you and your kid might have a fighting chance compared to a crowded coach section.



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User currently offlineAirbus Lover From Malaysia, joined Apr 2000, 3248 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12058 times:

Depends what age you define as "kids".

Those babies that tends to cry a lot?

Or those 4 or 5 year olds that would be much more obedient?

Or those young passengers travelling alone? (up to age of 12)

or those unattended minors (up to the age of 15)?

I think it is sure fine for YPTAs and UMs to fly in first class. At MH, we tend to "upgrade" YPTAs and UMs to business or first before descent so then they could deplane easier and then be led from there.

I had always been flying Business alone as a YPTA years ago and at times when flying back from LAX I was upgraded to First to be on the main deck so the F/As could look after.

Some people (not anyone here) tend to dislike kids flying in First Class or Business as they think those are spoiled "kids" and they themselves are stuck in cattle class. I mean if their parents can afford it, why not?


User currently offlineTxAgKuwait From United States of America, joined Aug 1999, 1803 posts, RR: 42
Reply 19, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12017 times:

First of all, barring kids from a F cabin would be exposing a company to risks a lot more serious than aggravating their double-platinum zircon encrusted medallion members.

Airlines are "common carriers." That's why their unions are subject to "the railway labor act." That's why they are issued (or used to be, anyway) a "certificate of public convenience and necessity."

An airline can not discriminate against a child whose parents want to fork over the cash or the miles-required-to-upgrade. That's it, plain and simple.

Nobody wants to hear a child scream for the entire duration of a flight, and that goes for people sitting in either cabin. One of the earlier posters hit the nail on the head, though....crying children are a fact of life. Deal with it.

As far as the young lady assisting the FA...there may now be rules progibitng this, but 15 -25 years ago it was common practice for WN FAs to get a couple of kids to help them pass out packages of peanuts/almonds (yes, they served smoked almonds at one time) before the beverage service. This was usually accomplished with a great deal of fanfare and everyone seemed better for it.....the passengers were relieved that the kids on the plane were constructively engaged instead of hollering and/or kicking the seat in front of them, the kids passing out nuts felt real big to be helping the FAs, and the FAs were pouring and mixing drinks in the galley instead of passing out nuts. Win-win situation. haven;t seen it in quite some time, though, so there may be a liability issue or somebody complained.


User currently offlineMandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 6858 posts, RR: 75
Reply 20, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 11968 times:

I paid for my P class seat, I expect for the cabin to be quiet.
The kids parent bought it also, so they expect the kids to be there.
However, this is unlike the seat recline debate... 1 crying kid can spoil more than one pax's day. A family of 4 with 4 fully paid P class tickets... ruining the travel experience of another 8 P Class pax... You gain the repeat business of 2 parents (those kids won't fly P class on their own money for a while) but loose 8... -6...

Responsible parents with responsible children are by all means welcomed... But what are the chances of a "Why can't you just shut up" set of parents with a bunch of "I hate everything so I cry and nothing can stop me" kids make it to the First Class? Not very often... However, there should be a guideline on dealing with those situation...

Mandala499



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User currently offlineNWAA330 From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 213 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11880 times:

From the ages of 5-15 I lived in Asia (Shanghai, Beijing, Tokyo) due to my fathers job though I am originally from Detroit. My family (including my sister who is three years younger) often went on vacations and we usually took 20 flights a year to various destinations within Asia and back to the U.S. All but a handful of these flights were flown in either Business or First class (paid, upgraded, and FF mile tickets) on many different airlines and I can tell you that neither my sister or I ever presented a problem to other passengers or to the crew. On many flights domestically I have been upgraded as a teenager due to my elite status. Children flying in premium cabins are rare but, esp. on long haul flights are not out of the question. For the most part they are well be behaved from what I have seen, and though you may have one now and then that make a flight less bearable that's just tough, they paid just as much to be there as you did. On the subject of upgrading that obviously lies with the discretion of the airline employee. I don't think UM's should be upgraded necessarily but if you have a Gold elite child and a silver elite adult it only seems right that the child be the one upgraded. Some of you may say that you deserve that First Class seat more than they do. But now how about the little old lady seated in economy who, though more deserving, isn't going to get your seat. There cannot be a double standard. They should be treated like all other passengers, looked at merely by their type of ticket and loyalty to the airline.

NWAA330



To Fly is to Live.
User currently offlineTan Flyr From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 1908 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11845 times:

As for babies, TxAg Kuwait hit squarly..we were all babies once and everyone of cried on planes, trains or cars. So deal with it.

Now as for main/business/first class cabins.. as many of you I have seen it all. UM's not happy they are going to moms/dads/grandma's house. Plenty of parents that were totally oblivious to their childs behavior in any cabin have been on many flights also.

Now, If I can brag a bit.... a few years back when my son was 5 or 6 the 3 of us (myself, wife,son) were bumped up to first due to oversell in the main cabin. Yes, the staff took care of us perhaps because I am platinum. It was an appreciated gesture.

My son learned right then about a higher level of expected behavior in tthe front of the aircraft.( he knew what was expected in the main cabin also)

Since then I have taken him to the grandparents while I did some business in nearby cities...and we upgraded our selves for the return flights to L.A.

I can say without reservation he behaves better than some adults do up front ( or in any cabin) and has received compliments from cabin staff. (makes Dad proud)

Perhaps I am old fashioned, but he also is dressed nice when we fly...I believe it sets a tone of what is expected.

So, I will contine to take my son with me when I can, and I will have him sit up front with me for some longer domestic flights and have no qualms about it.

It is too bad that many children DO NOT KNOW WHAT IS EXPECTED OF THEM!

Thanks for letting me brag a bit gentlemen!





User currently offlineGte439u From Canada, joined Nov 2003, 361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11830 times:

As TgAgKuwait stated, a blanket policy would indeed be discriminatory. I have very little sympathy for those who feel that children should be banned from first and business class. There is no right not to be annoyed in life, and, moreover, every passenger has the ability to ask the parents to control their children.

Finally, there are more rich parents in the world than one may think, and airlines do not want to upset a family of five paying full P/J/F/C fare.


User currently offlineRB211 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 632 posts, RR: 3
Reply 24, posted (10 years 10 months 1 week 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 11772 times:

I like it when children are in first class. I watch their amazement with the aircraft, looking out of the window, and getting all of the attention from the flight attendants, and remember what it was like when I was their age. Heck I still ask for pilot wings and little do-dads. I can't stand to fly with infants!!


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25 Planesarecool : You say that they can't sit in First class, but then why should they be allowed sit in economy? Then again, its a bit unfair if they cannot fly at all
26 767Lover : What if you couldn't be upgraded to first class because there were no more seats available...and when you boarded you discovered some of the seats wer
27 Vikkyvik : Being in a plane (no matter what class you're in) is like being in any other public place. Kids cry all the time in public places. It's a fact of life
28 Coronado990 : A little crying can be handled. Most infants fall asleep right after take-off anyway. It's the "muck" that's a little hard to take.
29 Cancidas : i only encountered this dilema once. i was sitting in the row behind a mother and her kid with my gf and was trying to sleep. the kid kept runing abou
30 FrequentFlyKid : Some of the arguements here are asinine. Those in coach don't deserve to have it any less quiet than those up front. Oh, and I'm not sure, but last ti
31 Airbus Lover : "What if you couldn't be upgraded to first class because there were no more seats available...and when you boarded you discovered some of the seats we
32 CLEspotter : What age do you consider Kids? When I was 12 or something and I could get an upgrade or I paid for it you know i would be up there........ Also some p
33 767Lover : It's not the quietness or loudness that makes this a controversial issue for me. It's more about the allocation of premium resources -- big seats, mor
34 Airbus Lover : 767 please read reply number 31 and 32!!! If they can afford it then why not?! Nothing about wasting resources really. So what if they dont use up tho
35 CLEspotter : Airbus Lover....welcome to my resp user list. Amen to that!
36 767Lover : I guess I've always taken the "I don't need the extras...let someone else have them who needs them more" approach to things but I see your point. I've
37 WGW2707 : This topic is based on unsound, mildly selfish arguments. To begin with, anyone willing to pay for the cost of a premium class ticket and who is legal
38 Startvalve : one word: Benadryl give the little bastard one of these or a half of one depending on body weight and they will be groggy for at least 8 hours, and mo
39 CO2BGR : 1.) If the kid is quiet, who cares, let them sit there. Just because you are upgrade happy and the kid paid full fare dosent mean you should sit there
40 Post contains images Airbus Lover : CLEspotter, thanks! I am glad I have made my point and it has been understood! Didnt take too long to explain though. I suddenly felt I have a lot to
41 Ar385 : Here's a suggestion: Charter a private plane, without any of that angel flight crap, an you;ll have have a kid's free environment. AR385
42 UAL Bagsmasher : If the parents are paying for a First Class fare, then I have no problem allowing their kid(s) in First. I do draw the line at non-rev children. Time
43 Post contains images IndustrialPate : I am for the no kids in first class rule. Here's a shocker: I agree with you!! I flew an LAX-DTW flight that departed at 2AM... sat next to a young gi
44 Ar385 : I flew once (full fare) on Co's BusinessFirst from GIG to IAH via EWR (9 hours on a DC-10) I arrived at EWR at 5Am got the treatment from the (INS) an
45 N949WP : Put the tykes in the cargo hold!!
46 Jeffrey1970 : TxAgKuwait, You have it right. I am a parent myself. I too don't enjoy it when my child cries. However it happens so I try and deal with it the best w
47 9V-SPK : I was once in F with my parents, and another passenger on a flight from SYD to SIN. There were 16 seats in F and when I thought there'd be no more pas
48 JeffM : Maybe they should just keep people from Georgia out of 1C...? Business 101 Ms.... He who pays the price, gets the goods. Does that clear things up? ~J
49 CO2BGR : I am sure on most flights there are pore people in coach trying to get some rest than in first. If you want to ban kids in first so that they dont bot
50 FrequentFlyKid : I think Jeff just summed up a lot of frustrations of many people in his postscript. Like I said, a lot of people around here are very high on themselv
51 FrequentFlyKid : I think Jeff just summed up a lot of frustrations of many people in his postscript. Like I said, a lot of people around here are very high on themselv
52 IndustrialPate : Anybody who's ever flown long-haul Economy and shared the cabin with a bunch of obnoxious children knows why. First Class is a quiet cabin in which pe
53 Ha763 : Most airlines do not allow kids under a certain age (under the age of 10 or so)to fly non-rev in first/business class. I have no problem with children
54 UAL777 : I think you guys are making too many generalizations. I have flown employee NR in first since I was young and I have always been well behaved. This i
55 JeffM : IndustrialPate, The problem is not yours anyway. If I buy a ticket for a 5 year old, he rides if you have a problem with it or not. Is that a problem?
56 Jeffrey1970 : IndustrialPate , What if the child starts to act up? I know that is not fun, but there really is nothing that can be done.
57 Post contains images 767Lover : Wow, JeffM directed his reply to me personally. I feel special! LOL As an interesting side note, a popular restaurant of ATL aviators -- the Downwind
58 Flybynight : I guess none of you have kids. I do. I have a three year old daughter, and if I want to use miles or pay for her to fly up front, it is only fair. Isn
59 MRb757 : Hey! My first flight ever in my life was by my self at the age of six in first class. I flew Ecuatoriana, DC-10 from Quito, Ecuador to Miami, Florida.
60 767Lover : A number of people have said things like "why don't we just make them ride in the baggage compartment." For God's sake, no one said they wanted childr
61 Marco_polo : If it is paid for the seat can go to anybody. High profile people somtimes buy extra seat just to block other people from sitting next to them or gain
62 Mas a330 : I'm sure most kids that travel first class are educated and civil.
63 Airbus Lover : Mas a330 has a good point there. Those whose parents can afford first class tickets for their children are mostly educated and civil notwithstanding i
64 Pmanchuk : You know, I have to agree that age really is not going to determine a persons actions. Whether in f/c or coach, it's my belief that a parent has a res
65 LoneStarMike : What if you're in the last row of first class and there's a screaming baby in the first row of coach? You're still going to be disturbed anyway.I say
66 Zrs70 : Truth is, adults bother me more than kids in F. Here's why: 1) Adults yell into their cell phones louder tha nkids scream 2) Adults get drunk on fligh
67 CO2BGR : There are more people whining here about kids in first than I have been disturbed by kids whining in first. You did not get your free upgrade because
68 AA777 : If the parents are willing to pay, then I think they should def. be allowed to sit in first class. And I agree with those who say adults have just as
69 Ben : A few minutes later, you find the little girl carrying out the dinner trays with the Purser pointing out which seat she is to take the tray to. I was
70 Philaboy : Well, when I was 14, i flew QF26 LAX-AKL-BNE in economy. On the AKL-BNE leg, I being a UM, (unnacompanied minor), was upgraged to business class, alon
71 Ryanb741 : Generally you can often tell which flights are likely to have a higher proportion of kids on them. As a result I would never fly London-Orlando direct
72 Sllevin : simply noted his name in the passport and upon landing at BKK had my 'contacts' in Bangkok (my wife's mother is a Thai Government minister) create a
73 Daumueller : i had a 8 month old girl sitting "next to me" on my last F-Class trip on LH from FRA to DEN. It was not screaming a single time so it was more fun tha
74 Yyz717 : I simply noted his name in the passport and upon landing at BKK had my 'contacts' in Bangkok (my wife's mother is a Thai Government minister) create a
75 Icarus75 : I agree with you Jplenny!!! I've already seen bad adult behavior in first and business (most of the time drunken people)!!! And to all the people that
76 Nudelhirsch : Let's do this: no selling of certain classes, just one price for all. Then pax are examined at the gate prior to boarding: -looks, smell... appropriat
77 Kilavoud : I am always fascinated how people from Western countries are disturbed by crying babies. As I am leaving a great part of my time in India, I will acce
78 N6376m : IMO this comes down to common courtesy. The problem isn't with the kids, it's with the parents. If a parent can't control their child, they need to ta
79 Firstclasser : what about the kids who come from rich families and believe they own the plane? They can be just as arrogant as elete flyers. Worse off, they may be d
80 7774EVER : Hey CDGdtw: don't you think that's a little offensive to kids who do not act like that?
81 Moolies : If the parents pay for fee and the children are behaved why the hell not? Why do people say NO? Lufthanse a few years ago wouldn tlet children under 1
82 Planesarecool : If the child is in first class then the parent/s must have a lot of cash in their pocket, therefore their child would be well educated and more sensib
83 Moolies : Thank you stephen. I fully agree.
84 Dtw/ord fan! : Bottom line is that if you pay, you have every right to sit in first. But, NO MATTER what age you are, 1 or 100, when you become disruptive and irresp
85 Moolies : Another man whom I fully agree with. You dont see 8 year old drunks causing shit in First?
86 Av8rPHX : Just out of curiousity... everyone who is making the comments about non-revs... how do you know they are even nonrevs... it isnt like they have signs
87 CO2BGR : About non-revs: They get into first after all of you elites. The ones in first are the senior non-revs (CO awards seats based on years with the compan
88 Jeffrey1970 : Dtw/ord fan!, While I agree with you that if passengers become so disruptive they should be removed from a flight, or a different seat. However I don'
89 Flybynight : Remember too, that kids are more likely to cry when coming in for landing due to the pressure build up in the ears. I remember a flight when I was in
90 CanadianNorth : well to me if they (or more likely the parents) are willing to pay full fare then by all means let them. If they cause a small disturbance, well kids
91 BigB : For all those who don't want kids in First class, here is a good idea for yall. How about yall sit in the belly.
92 WGW2707 : For everyone who disagreed with the absurd notion of age-based passenger discrimination, I applaud you. In this day and age, the airlines need every c
93 IndustrialPate : For everyone who disagreed with the absurd notion of age-based passenger discrimination, I applaud you. So I guess other mainsteam venues, such as res
94 JGPH1A : Re: Non-rev kids travelling up front. When I worked at SAA the rule for non-rev travel was no kids under 12 in Business Class, no kids under 16 in Fir
95 Stevenf : Last year on was on a flight to Greece (from Holland about 3 hours) and on the flight there and back there where kids screaming and crying, I really g
96 Bucky707 : As an employee of an airline, I have to agree about non-rev children. At my airline I think the age is 8 for a child to non-rev in first class. That i
97 GKirk : If you dont like kids screaming when your flying, buy a Bizjet. Remember, they have as much right to be there as you do...if you think otherwise, then
98 Greg : There is plenty of overhead space in first. That's where children belong. That, or on the tarmac with the luggage that got left behind. I'll ask to be
99 Nudelhirsch : Everybody whining about children's noise in first should spend a long haul or two in economy, LHs cramped narrow cabin is ideal for learning a lesson
100 Aloges : If the kids are so unnerving, why don't you oh-so-grown-ups take a look at how unnerving grown-ups can be? A kid can be calmed with a smile, a little
101 WGW2707 : Airlines are not like luxury hotels, restaurants or theatres. They provide an essential transport service, connecting point A with point B. Under US l
102 767Lover : When I worked at SAA the rule for non-rev travel was no kids under 12 in Business Class, no kids under 16 in First - ever, period. At my airline I thi
103 Apollo13 : I was on a flight with my Parents one time from JFK to CDG on Delta MD-11 Business class. And a seat behind of me was this mother and father and their
104 JeffM : Greg said: "There is plenty of overhead space in first. That's where children belong. That, or on the tarmac with the luggage that got left behind. I'
105 JeffM : IndustrialPate said" "One shouldn't enter the premium cabin dressed in a Charles Woodson jersey, with a UCLA hat on -- it's just not appropriate. " Wh
106 BigB : IndustrialPate said" "One shouldn't enter the premium cabin dressed in a Charles Woodson jersey, with a UCLA hat on -- it's just not appropriate. " Wh
107 Joleb : kids should be allowed when they behave like normal grown up human beings otherwise please calm them down with a sweet or so. cloth just come with wha
108 RiverVisualNYC : The problem isn't with the kids, it's with the adults. In the mid '70s I often flew Pan Am's 747s in First Class with my parents (sometimes even sitti
109 PIA777 : MAN!! It took me an hour to catch up. I think that kids should be allowed to sit in First class if thier parents are willing to pay the full price for
110 UN_B732 : Excuse me, since when did "children" not like Business Food. I would be classified as a "child/teenager" but I wouldn't like to disclose my age. I hav
111 RiverVisualNYC : For whoever (it's not worth my time to page back) said: "An airliner is nothing more then a flying bus.... Premium Cabin my ass.... If you want quiet,
112 CO2BGR : For those of you that think adults behave better than childern when given free alcohol: How many flights have been diverted by unruly kids? unruly adu
113 PIA777 : Can a flight be diverted because of a unruly kid? or teen? Or they just tie them to their seat?(if they have to) -PIA777
114 Clickhappy : as the parent of 2 daughters, one 5 and the other 2, I would like to weigh in on this topic. Neither of my little girls has ever been on a plane, so I
115 BR715-A1-30 : I believe in One of 2 things. 1. NO PERSON UNDER THE AGE OF 18 MAY RIDE IN FIRST CLASS. or 2. YOUR CHILD MAY RIDE WITH YOU IN FIRST CLASS FOR THE FULL
116 PIA777 : BR715-A1-30, Thats not fair though, would the parents get their money back? -PIA777
117 Nudelhirsch : OH MY GOD! This one outranked every A B discussion so far...awesome... Canon Nikon...last week... Airbus Boeing...yesterday... Kids in First...TODAY!
118 Clickhappy : Jacob - that is a pathetic attitude.
119 NLINK : I think kids have no business in First Class and on the ground I am a huge supporter of kid free sections in restaurants, since nothing is worse that
120 Airdude66 : If F/A's can chastise and/or bring charges against drunken passengers. Deny boarding to passengers due to personal BO because it inconveniences passen
121 WGW2707 : I had thought (hoped in fact) that this topic would have run its course by now...... Anyway, to reiterate: Anyone who can afford either a premium clas
122 Jumbolino : Hello, good topic, but I've to admit I haven't read all the postings (too many) so maybe anybody has given already my opinion to the forum. If we are
123 Clickhappy : To all you people who are anti-children; Too bad your parents didn't feel the same way.
124 AA61hvy : Royal- too bad more people don't have your attitude, good idea about bringing your kids to the back of the plane..
125 RiverVisualNYC : I'll support the idea of a "child-free section" when they also implement a "drunken tourist-free section," an "arrogant yuppie-free section," a "makeu
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